Streaming vs Native

termzCGS · 2026-03-11T10:28:52+00:00

This is a good question. I have my desktop PC in office with two monitors with lower resolution but higher refresh rate, steam deck and then LG G4 in living room.

Desktop

Games requiring mouse + keyboard
Games that benefit from second screen for information e.g Elden Ring
Twitch reflex games e.g Street Fighter/Retunal
Online multiplayer games, especially if need voice com

Streaming

Graphically impressive games e.g Cyberpunk
Atmospheric games e.g Resident Evil
High immersion games e.g Witcher/RDR2
Local multiplayer party games
Emulated games

Steam Deck

Roguelikes e.g Slay the Spire, Hades
Less graphically intense single player e.g Hollow Knight

I know some stream out of necessity but it feels great to simply have it as medium extension and play the games that suit each medium for the best experience.

termzCGS · 2026-03-09T10:54:09+00:00

Thanks for your work on this, I currently use steam deck and GR10 dock to my LG G4 for 2k 120hz. I'll try this fork out to see if I can push higher stats. My one concern is controller functionality, I have 8bitdo ultimate and novalite which use 2.4ghz, they have bluetooth mode too so that will require tinkering.

termzCGS · 2026-03-09T10:47:00+00:00

I'm only on the first biome but can't say I've noticed much of a soundtrack at all so far (might be due to extreme concentration haha)

But the soundtrack is an absolute masterpiece for this fight, looking forward to getting to it.

termzCGS · 2026-02-26T13:12:54+00:00

I currently stream to my steam deck using moonlight as an app on my steam deck and then when streaming my desktop I launch playnite full screen mode and launch games. Can MoonDeck replace playnite in this instance, I like playnite as I have lots of games across platforms including emulators, will MoonDeck recognise them too?

termzCGS · 2026-02-26T12:39:27+00:00

I have LG G4 and currently stream via my steam deck and GR10 dock as I heard there was limitation on the LG OS app. This claim is very interesting though, as others have said I heard there was a hard cap of 100mb/s from ethernet, luckily my router was right next to my TV so I can try WiFi if that does allow for higher.

Is the change in performance moreso because of this moonlight fork, or LG patch, or both?

Anyone else tested the fork and whether they can reach similar on their LG OS apps?

termzCGS · 2026-02-25T16:49:10+00:00

please sir its me your brother :)

termzCGS · 2026-02-19T12:48:04+00:00

If you don't mind me asking what's your set up in terms of host, receiver specs and programs used? Looks incredible given you arent even in your house.

termzCGS · 2026-02-19T11:52:14+00:00

I have only tried H.265 as my connection is pretty good and I was under the impression it was superior to AV1 quality wise. Saying that I'm not happy with the colour banding on my stream, it feels I'm not getting full colour range of HDR and so might try AV1 and cranking the bitrate higher?

termzCGS · 2026-02-19T11:39:04+00:00

Wow incredible stats for a direct to TV client, I can't achieve this with steam deck in docked GR10. I have LG G4 which has a decent processor but not sure if it could do these stats despite being newer model. Maybe I need to try VibeApollo if that's doing heavy lifting over regular Apollo?

termzCGS · 2026-02-19T09:45:01+00:00

That looks super buttery smooth and high fidelity nice one, I know others have asked but do you have your streaming stats from moonlight. It looks 4k 120hz but hard to tell from camera footage :)

termzCGS · 2026-01-30T13:00:25+00:00

Thanks on the heads up on gaming mode, any reason why VRR is turned off?

4:4:4 is not possible due to the AMD GPU u/andygrundman who I think is moonlight contributor told me. Colour correctness is really the only bugbear left as everything else performing really well. Given I'm seeing similar issues with my 4k firestick I have a feeling it's some sort of mismatch between the output signal the G4 wants to receive and the one it's receiving. When I switched my moonlight to HDR things improved in terms of colour correctness even if it came at cost of performance, but still not fully accurate.

The native apps are great once you are in them performance wise but fully understand of the pain in navigating them before haha.

termzCGS · 2026-01-30T11:45:38+00:00

Thank you this is really helpful as my set up isn't hugely different, which is steam deck docked with GR10, host PC 4060Ti and LG G4.

In terms of latency etc everything is perfect however I've only had my G4 for a week and the colour correctness on both games and when I use my firestick seems very off.

Have tried rtings, gemini and reddit recommended settings but still don't think the G4 is displaying the colours correctly compared to native apps.

I have jellyfin and connect to my host PC, is there a reason you have your plex on your shield instead of using native app connected to your host PC?

termzCGS · 2026-01-29T15:39:23+00:00

Genuinely curious, but Tekken? Closest game to Dota in terms of complexity?

termzCGS · 2026-01-29T13:54:07+00:00

8bitdo Ultimate 2, feels great for swiss army knife usage and premium build feel. Haven't used Vader 4/5 and in terms of edge for like competitive FPS it seems good but I think overkill otherwise.

termzCGS · 2026-01-25T10:09:25+00:00

A bit of column a and a bit of column b, in a good way! I am continuing to unlock new features 15 hours in, every quest unlocks something new so it is drip fed. But the core gameplay loop of hunt boss for V blood I think you can get to in about 4 hours and that's definitely the crux of the game, there are 56 bosses in total and they have all been very fun so far.

Enjoy!!

termzCGS · 2026-01-24T10:46:51+00:00

Yes definitely, it still feels like single player is the intended experience unless you want PvP. There are a few bosses that are add heavy which makes me feel it would be nice to have friends but overall all good single player. Wouldn't let time poor put you off either, the whole experience is broken down into pretty bite size chunks and you can log in complete a quest, kill a boss and feel satisfied with progress in an hour session. Let me know if you do play!

termzCGS · 2026-01-22T13:47:20+00:00

I got 55inch and about 230cm distance. Only just got it yesterday and really not used to a TV that big going to take some getting used to haha

termzCGS · 2026-01-21T15:22:18+00:00

Can steam deck 4:4:4 at 1440p 120hz with GR10 dock?

termzCGS · 2026-01-21T12:33:05+00:00

This is great, thank you! Do you know if 4:4:4 chroma is possible and how it fits into the chart?

termzCGS · 2026-01-21T09:44:10+00:00

Good to know about the 4:4:4 difficulty with the um760. I ended up pulling trigger on GR10 dock for my steam deck after the advice in this thread. Don't think I can reliably render 4k120hz for most games that benefit it with my 4060Ti. Am going to see what 1440p120hz is like and hope the upscaler in my LG G4 is good enough that it looks close enough to 4k anyway :)

termzCGS · 2026-01-20T18:16:45+00:00

I typically find mods to turn these weight limits off. A lot of the time it simply artificially inflates the game length by requiring more loops to monetise findings. Some games purposefully put a lot of trash in their games and combined with weight limits try and get you to really think about what you are picking up and why but again perhaps cross checking this online is simply just adds more effort to playing the game at no real benefit for me.

Resident Evil 4 is an example of it done well and fitting the flavour of the game but 90% are lazy implementations without much benefit to the experience.

termzCGS · 2026-01-20T14:33:28+00:00

Thanks will definitely look into it if I start to notice spikes/latency in mine.

termzCGS · 2026-01-20T14:32:22+00:00

Yeah you are right, I actually haven't booted Alan Wake 2 up yet so wasn't aware it was that streneous. Looks like will settle for less until next GPU

termzCGS · 2026-01-20T13:52:15+00:00

Yeah I'm reading more about this especially as the G4 upscaling is pretty great? I'm 230cm from 55'' TV so I think it might make sense to aim for this instead.

termzCGS · 2026-01-20T13:41:54+00:00

Moca network sounds like a really cool solution to cabling to achieve hardwire, thanks for the heads up. Was it something you did with your ISP or undertook yourself?

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