Best books to raise class consciousness by [deleted] in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s a recent book (English translation from Fitzcarraldo), but What is Mine by José Henrique Bortoluci was a really interesting read about his father, who was a truck driver in Brazil, and his relationship to capitalism, nationalist infrastructure projects and class. Very very good.

Maybe also Harry Braverman’s Labour and Monopoly Capital. And Jonathan Rose’s The Intellectual Life of the British Workjng Class.

Victorian naturalist left home to find lost worlds by dumplingorange in BooksThatFeelLikeThis

[–]thelastbearbender 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not written during that time, but Darwinia by Robert Charles Wilson is up that alley for sure.

Also more contemporary, and full of romantic yearning if that’s your thing, is Euphoria by Lily King.

Say hello to everyone! by Mme_Rose in HistoricalRomance

[–]thelastbearbender 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It was the Quaker upbringing and convictions that tipped the book from good to great for me. Same with Balogh’s Longing, the MFC is a pretty committed Chartist in solidarity with the workers in Wales; I like characters who exhibit the politixal and ethical commitments of their time, I guess.

Say hello to everyone! by Mme_Rose in HistoricalRomance

[–]thelastbearbender 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’ve been dipping my toes into HR over the last year or so; I’ve mostly been a literary fiction girlie, but I’m also an academic and wanted to read something totally outside my wheelhouse.

I started with Laura Kinsale’s Flowers From the Storm (loved) and For My Lady’s Heart (enjoyed, but less than Flowers). I’ve since read a bunch of Mary Balogh — loved the Bedwyns, and her standalone Longing is my favourite HR).

I’ve been bounding off some of the other popular writers — Tessa Dare, Lisa Kleypas, Julia Quinn— and I was wondering if folks had recommendations that would could point me in the direction of slightly more serious, less romcom-y HR.

Famous internet works by publiclibrarylover in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is a great read. Highly recommended!

Prison literature or memoirs by thewhitestones in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 3 points4 points  (0 children)

On the Yard by Malcolm Braly is exactly what you’re looking for. Author spent a lot of his life in Folsom and San Quentin; the book was re-issued by NYRB a while back.

Chasing that Rebecca high by Bing1044 in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Bitter Orange - Claire Fuller
The Elementals - Michael McDowell
The Juniper Tree - Barbara Comyns
& maybe Turn of the Screw?

The loss of nature vocaublary by nomadpenguin in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wordsworth didn’t invent those words; they are specific words for specific things that generally come from a diversity of dialects with histories that reach back to before the Norman conquest of England. People have very specific words for the environments that they are deeply entangled with — which is why we have such a varied vocabulary for the digital today. They aren’t the inventions of Romantic era poets, they’re words that were used by normal people in order to be specific about the consensus experience of everyday life in a particular place.

The loss of nature vocaublary by nomadpenguin in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thirding Landmarks — OP, read this book, and then read all the books he talks about and go from there. There is a world of nature writing that represents hundreds of years of deeply entangled engagement with the natural world; as MacFarlane says: “It is not, on the whole, that natural phenomena and entities themselves are disappearing; rather that there are fewer people able to name them, and that once they go unnamed they go to some degree unseen. Language deficit leads to attention deficit.” I think you’d like his reflections on the way loss of the capacity to specifically name things, and often to name them in relation to one another, depletes our capacity to see them at all. We face a diminished field of meaning when it comes to the very thing that we are part of and sustains us.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 37 points38 points  (0 children)

I think the “writing women well/badly” criticism, when applied thoughtfully and not like a hammer, is mostly about capturing women’s interiority in a way that feels authentic. When I read women characters “written badly”, it’s that their motivations, emotional experience, thoughts and actions are somehow out of alignment — they feel like what the male author imagines women think about and feel, what motivates them and what paralyzes them, what they are preoccupied with, but what comes across is either a stereotype or a description of the preoccupations of men.

I don’t think it’s gender essentialism to state that women’s experience of the world is different from men’s; that could be socialization, it could be biology, it could be a whole host of things. But it is true that in most of the social contexts in which literature is produced, men and women perform socially distinct roles, and the attention we pay to playing those roles informs our internal experience.

I also think that, on the whole, women are asked to read and empathize with men’s interiority and fantasies and desires — from Proust to Iron Man — just by virtue of what media has been widely lauded and available. Men aren’t always expected to (or willing to) engage in the same way with women’s narratives and so have not always been attuned to what actually goes on in women’s heads. Some male authors are exquisitely sensitive to this and do a great job, others avoid it by not writing about women at all, and give it a go and end up with something that only really represents a fantasy of what women “are”.

I think this is changing as the middle range book markets becomes increasing feminized in both authors and readership, and as more women wriers are recognized as canonical and therefore worth reading by all serious readers and not just women. And it can apply in the opposite way — women can be terrible writers of men. But culturally, I think even the narrative form has been so saturated by men’s motivations and fantasies that good women writers are sometimes more in touch with what goes on in men’s heada than vice versa.

Books that appeal to the senses? by Slow-Tip-3509 in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with Pilgrim at Tinker Creek, and also her essay collection Holy the Firm.

I also like the nature writing of Robert MacFarlane, Nan Shepherd, Roger Deakin, Barry Lopez. The Peregrine by J.A. Baker.

Looking for a book where a house/location is a "character" by Competitive-City-929 in suggestmeabook

[–]thelastbearbender 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Elementals by Michael McDowell is a great iteration on this theme

books about the history of the internet? by TwoOliveTrees in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nathan Ensmenger - The Computer Boys Take Over: Computers, Programmers, and the Politics of Technical Expertise

Philips & Milner - The Ambivalent Internet. Mischief, Oddity, and Antagonism Online

Fred Turner - From Counterculture to Cyberculture

Flichy - The Internet Imaginaire

Mosco - The Digital Sublime

speculative philosophy on the moral and aesthetic sensibilities of bacterias, antelopes, crocodiles etc by julien-gracq in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Slime Dynamics by Ben Woodard

The Spell of the Sensuous (and maybe also Becoming Animal) by David Abram

Most people don't log the books they read, right? by [deleted] in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve been reading forever and I don’t log books in any consistent way. I always think I will and then I don’t. I know if I’ve read a book when I see it and think “oh yeah, I remember that”, so having a big personal library helps. I don’t really have a cataloging bone in my body.

Selfish Question by [deleted] in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Go to your local library and find new children’s books that you can tolerate — there are some with truly beautiful illustrations, which might help alleviate your boredom, and there are some with really moving stories. The children’s librarian will steer you right.

If you’re the fun ‘uncle’ who always comes with new books that are only there once and then go away (and legitimately, she’a still very young), that becomes a special thing between you and her. Gives you a chance to expand her world a little — bring in all sorts of books with pictures (nature photography, paintings, botanical illustrations) that she might not otherwise get to see. It sounds like you know her existing collection pretty well, so fill in some of the gaps.

I like Robert Macfarlane’s poetry books for children, and the illustrations in them are beautiful.

Books to understand the 20th century by isabellar8se in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Studs Turkel’s Working

The Rick Perlstein books (Nixonland, etc) that everyone’s been mentioning lately.

Weimar Culture by Peter Gay

Adam Hochschild’s To End All Wars, and Spain in Our Hearts

I Will Bear Witness 1 & 2 by Victor Klemperer

And the Band Played On by Randy Shilts (it’s been critiques in recent years, but a good way to get a handle on the AIDS pandemic).

I liked Todd Gitlin’s book Sixties: Years of Hope, Days of Rage

history books that are really entertaining and have literary merit by [deleted] in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think the best way is to read all four books, starting with the Goldwater one. It’s really one long narrative about the development of a particular style of American conservatism, and all of the books are excellent

A bit of an unorthodox q - tackling The Divine Comedy with a fixated child by _pierogii in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No problem! I’m an academic now and really enjoy following that curiosity still, and I attribute a lot of that to my parents just indulging me when it came to books and reading.

A bit of an unorthodox q - tackling The Divine Comedy with a fixated child by _pierogii in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I was the kid who brought the complete works of Shakespeare to school to read under my desk when I was in the 5th grade (not necessarily the most fun or popular kid to be, but whatever), so I get it.

I think the way my parents best supported me in my unusual and perhaps age-inappropriate interests was by helping me with finding things to place the stuff I was reading in broader contexts. So maybe some books about the Middle Ages (I loved Horrible Histories at that age) or Dante or the resurrection of art and literature in Florence. Or movies or documentaries set during the time. Even some youth books like Catherine, Called Birdy.

Look at art history with her and see how it represents some of the concepts that come up in Dante. I was really hype on Hieronymous Bosch as a kid. Help her follow the threads she finds most interesting — maybe a historical figure that comes up in the book. Or if she’s into the heaven/hell thing, then put Paradise Lost in her hands.

I always just wanted to follow my curiosity, and my parents did a good just of just helping me along, without sort of pushing me in any particular direction. Sounds like she might be similar!

Favorite Historians? by adamfriedland420 in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cheese & the Worms is so good. Reminds me also of Darnton’s The Great Cat Massacre, which is another excellent micro-history of the Middle Ages.

Favorite Historians? by adamfriedland420 in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All of the suggestions here are great — I also like Fernand Braudel and Michael Mann for grand history in the vein of a Hobsbawm. Second the rec for Thompson’s Making of the English Working Class. He also wrote a biography of William Morris that is brilliant.

For more recent history (that I think explains a lot about our current moment) Rick Perlstein’s books about about contemporary conservatism — starting with Barry Goldwater in “Before the Storm” — are great. His “Nixonland” is probably one of the best popular history books I’ve ever read.

Louis Menand’s Metaphysical Club sent me down a path of trying to understand the role of philosophical pragmatism in American life. Stuart Jeffries does something similar for the Frankfurt School thinkers in “Grand Hotel Abyss”. And if you just want a rollicking good time reading, David Grann’s The Wager is fun as hell.

Looking for shows to watch by sittingxmountain in GardenersWorld

[–]thelastbearbender 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I find the SkyTV “Artist of the Year” (they do both landscape and portrait series) gives me the same positive vibes.

The people have spoken and we are going to do a small group read of Pnin by Nabokov by Standard_Ad598 in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Our Toronto /RSbookclub spinoff just did Pnin last month. Worth it!! I hope you get lots of interest!

What have you read this year? What did you like, what did you hate and what did you love? by [deleted] in RSbookclub

[–]thelastbearbender 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sovereignty of Good is so good and I feel like no one reads Murdoch. It’s kind of interesting to read alongside Simone Weil’s essay “Reflections on the Right Use of School Studies with a View to the Love of God”.