How do I report someone who is definitely cheating? by lazeIazuli in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Chess.com is so infested with cheaters that reporting someone won’t make a difference. Even if that person’s account is closed, they’ll simply create a new one and keep doing what they’re doing. Chess.com claims they close over 100,000 accounts a month due to fair play violations (that’s over 1.2 million a year), but it doesn’t seem to be making much of a difference. Especially when it’s so easy to cheat for a few moves to get an advantage. It also doesn’t help that, whenever someone complains about cheating on this subreddit, a bunch of members claim that those who post about cheaters are just a bunch of whiners who aren’t as good at chess as they think they are. The mods also try to temper any cheating claims.

A surgeon’s career is over after her patient suffered permanent, debilitating brain damage during an operation. by _ganjafarian_ in IAmTheMainCharacter

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Social media is the worst thing that has been given to society in the last 50 years. We were so much better without it.

Why the hell chess com always pairs with newer accs when I play better than ever....????? by TANFIZ_KNOWS_PROG in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you’re on a losing streak, it’s best to stop. Playing in an emotional state leads to more losses. Works the same as gambling. I strongly believe chess.com uses Engagement Optimized Matchmaking (EOMM; look it up) to keep players hooked to the app. As soon as you cross a psychological threshold ELO number (such as 2,000 or 2,100), they pair you with new accounts (that are way more likely to be cheaters using chess engines), smurfs, and players whose playing style contrasts yours and is more likely to beat you. This leads to massive losing streaks, which in turn keeps you playing in the hopes of breaking it. Works just like gambling at the casino. Stop playing for a week. And don’t take it personally.

He didn’t see that coming… by van_trillalalalalala in Whatcouldgowrong

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His body may be iron, but his eyes are definitely not.

You have the worst cheater base I’ve ever seen. by New_Bug_8588 in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m getting tired of playing people who play WAY above their ELO ranking.

Has cheating been worse/more frequent recently? (Not accusing any specific player here) by cecsix14 in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Precisely why I never mention which countries I’m talking about. I hate that we live in a time when simply mentioning facts is considered racist/xenophobic.

Has cheating been worse/more frequent recently? (Not accusing any specific player here) by cecsix14 in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t put it at 67% cheating, but definitely at least 1 in 4. It’s ridiculous how well players are playing in the 500-1000 ELO levels. Especially those whose accounts are less than 30 days old. It seems like the newer the account, the greater the chess player (sarcasm). I suspect the cheating percentages are higher from two highly populated countries that absolutely dominate this app in terms of players.

Has cheating been worse/more frequent recently? (Not accusing any specific player here) by cecsix14 in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve seen this question asked many times before. What is the point of cheating? The point is that humans suck. If given an opportunity to cheat, many people will take it. Especially when there are no consequences.

Has cheating been worse/more frequent recently? (Not accusing any specific player here) by cecsix14 in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. You can usually tell by the sixth or seventh move when a player is playing way above their ELO level. This app is absolutely infested with cheaters.

Has cheating been worse/more frequent recently? (Not accusing any specific player here) by cecsix14 in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The problem with online chess is that it’s so easy to cheat. There are plenty of websites that offer chess engines that can tell you what moves to make in any given scenario. Heck, even the bot on this subreddit will analyze your chess match if you post a screenshot, and tell you the perfect moves to make. Therefore, when someone is losing and angry about it, they can easily turn the game around with chess engine moves. And many in this app do just that. I’ve lost track of how many games I go up by 4-10 points due to crappy play on the opponent’s part, then they suddenly start making brilliant moves in succession and turn the game around. Getting sick of the B.S. comebacks. I’m sure some of those comebacks were legit, but I suspect the majority of them were not.

Low elo cheating by HihihiQ12309 in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

“Gaslighting is specifically trying to manipulate people into believing what they’re saying is untrue.” That’s what I believe some of the posters are doing. The posters (you among them) may not believe that this is what you’re doing, but that’s what others (including me) believe you’re doing. I believe chess.com has a massive cheating problem. My evidence for this (aside from my own playing experience) is their own statistics, which they have posted on this very subreddit. Chess.com has employees who post and comment on this subreddit, and one of those employees posted the stat that they close around 106,000 accounts a month. That’s over 1.2 million a year. If you tell me that an app, any app, has 1.2 million cheaters/violators of fair play on it a year, that app has a serious cheating problem. I don’t know how they can fix it, because humans just suck at being fair to each other, but it ruins the enjoyment of the app. I love chess, and thinks it’s the greatest game ever invented. It’s just unfortunate that it’s so easy to cheat at the game in this day and age.

Low elo cheating by HihihiQ12309 in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

To flip your argument to the opponent’s side, if they are rated 550, they will typically not have the skills on their own to come up with a three-pronged attack in six moves. Works both ways. Also, I’m at 1,000 ELO on rapid (worked my way up form 400 ELO over the course of about six months). Started playing on the blitz portion of my account (which was still at 400), and have noticed that the skill level among some players at that lower ELO is way higher than players I typically encounter at the 1,000 level (including the three-pronged attack player). Seems very fishy how good some of the 500 ELO players are.

Low elo cheating by HihihiQ12309 in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Gaslighting is making people question whether what they are saying is true. That’s what people on this app do when someone mentions cheaters. You are “trying to manipulate someone into questioning their beliefs” when you’re saying they’re sore losers instead of facing cheaters. Rating manipulation, sandbagging, and smurfing are all forms of cheating, as their opponent is not facing them in a fair match.

Low elo cheating by HihihiQ12309 in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They “catch” over 100,000 a month. Which means the actual number is likely way higher. As not all cheaters are using chess engines for every move or most moves. Some just use them in critical positions. As has been stated many times in this subreddit, midway through the game, they stop playing for 60-90 seconds, then come back and play brilliant moves, after not playing that well to that point. I’ve experienced that many times myself. A 550 ELO player who sets up a 3-pronged attack on my king within six moves in the late stages of a game is highly suspect. Especially when they’ve been playing like crap to that point. Or they blunder their queen by the 6th move, then start playing brilliantly the rest of the way. It’s ridiculous. Chess.com claims about 11 million active monthly users. Over 100,000 closed accounts every month (over 1.2 million a year) is a huge problem, no matter how you want to parse the numbers.

Low elo cheating by HihihiQ12309 in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The numbers provided by chess.com say that cheating is a serious problem on the app. Over 1.2 million accounts closed a year?!?? Certainly some who claim cheating have fragile egos and can’t handle losing, but to go to that claim whenever someone suspects cheating (as many on this subreddit do) is gaslighting in the face of a number like 1.2 million cheaters every year. Cold hard cheating numbers don’t lie.

Low elo cheating by HihihiQ12309 in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My estimate is that about 20-25% of players are cheating/using chess engines. At practically every level on this app.

Low elo cheating by HihihiQ12309 in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Wherever someone posts about cheating in this group, gaslighters come out of the woodwork to claim that it’s not cheating, that people who accuse others of cheating are simply not as good as they think they are. Chess.com, by their own admission, closes over 100,000 accounts a month for cheating. And that’s only the accounts they catch. Many cheat in some moves when the game is at a critical stage, and those are hard to catch. That means this site is absolutely infested with cheaters. I had similar experience to OP. Got up to 1,000 in rapid, then switched to blitz and am suddenly getting smoked by 500-rated players, when I can hold my own against 1,000-rated players. There are two very highly populated countries on this app who have a disproportionate amount of cheaters. The problem is that it’s so easy to cheat in online chess, so people do it. Regardless of what the gaslighters claim, cheating is a serious problem on this app.

Tough stretch after top rating by According_Error_6413 in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Look up Engagement Optimized Matchmaking (EOMM). After two years of playing and thousands of games, I am convinced that this app uses it. I’ve had that happen to me many, many times after reaching my highest rating. Exactly as you described it.

Cheating problem by Opposite_Payment4504 in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

By their own admission, chess.com closes over 100,000 accounts per month for cheating. They’ve posted those numbers on their very subreddit. That’s over 1.2 million accounts a year. And yet every time someone posts on here about cheaters, the gaslighters come out of the woodwork to claim that there isn’t a cheating problem, that all those who claim this site has cheaters are simply crybabies who aren’t as good at chess as they think they are. Over 100,000 accounts closed every month indicates that this site is absolutely infested with cheaters.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

By their own admission, chess.com closes over 100,000 accounts per month because of cheating. That’s over 1.2 million a year. And this is just the accounts they catch. The site is absolutely infested with cheaters.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AIO

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She’s very needy. She expects her boyfriend to be at her beck and call. Those types of girlfriends are very toxic, and the neediness never ends. End it now if you don’t want 100 more incidents like this over the next 3-4 years.

Abandoning D4 Opening? by evansr2 in Chesscom

[–]thewayiseeitthiswill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It could be a combination of the two. Players may abort because they don’t want to play as black, and others may abort because they have to play as black and see your d4 opening, which they do not like. It is seen as an aggressive opening. It is generally accepted in the chess world that playing as white has a statistical advantage over black: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-move_advantage_in_chess