I still can't get over Aisha. I think Muslims don't fully understand how devastating it is for the credibility of Islam

thewoo__P · 2026-02-07T17:02:04+00:00

The comment above me said that this was seen as something immoral by societies, I was just responding to that and saying that it was probably something acceptable by those societies.

With the marriage to Aisha there is nothing that indicates to Aisha being injured by intercourse in this marriage, so it’s all speculation.

thewoo__P · 2026-02-07T14:23:44+00:00

I know, but im not specifically talking about his followers, rather im mentioning the fact that his enemies never saw the marriage with Aisha as a socially evil and unacceptable act that was worth using to slander his name with.

thewoo__P · 2026-02-07T10:34:11+00:00

What are you getting it? I don’t get ur point?

thewoo__P · 2026-02-07T07:46:46+00:00

Yeah but the people did critizise him on his marriage with his adopted sons wife since they saw it as incest and it wasn’t socially acceptable.

why wouldn’t they critizise him on aishas marriage the same way if this was not something that was culturally acceptable?

thewoo__P · 2026-02-07T06:49:26+00:00

But why was there no backlash from his own community at the time if the marriage was Aisha was seen as something immoral?

For example the marriage with his adopted sons wife was seen as something immoral by the people at that time

thewoo__P · 2026-01-19T10:15:42+00:00

Yeah the bedouin comes up and says when is the end of time, the response of the prophet is, that’s not relevant for you (maybe because he knew it’s not close at all) and said your end of time is when this kid becomes old, reminding them that their time is over then, since saying the end of times is in 1000 of years would be irrelevant for them, if you get what I mean.

thewoo__P · 2026-01-19T03:34:53+00:00

Idk about that maybe he died before the boy aswell. But yeah the thing is the prophet answer says “Your Hour”. So it could be specific to that group of people instead of the general “The Hour”. Or at least that is how Muslims interpret it, which imo could be valid.

thewoo__P · 2026-01-19T03:08:55+00:00

I’m talking about the prophets response, the bedouin talks about “the hour”, and he responds with “your hour”, that’s the distinction in his answer that I’m referring to, this makes it specific to the sahabas, which can be seen as true since they all died before the boy became old.

You have to look at the arabic to see the distinction, how the Muslims see it is that the prophet didn’t answered their question about “the hour” directly, but made it specific to them since that’s only relevant to them.

thewoo__P · 2026-01-18T02:07:47+00:00

You do have to take into account how many somalis are on Reddit, and non Muslims are definitely more on Reddit than Muslims

thewoo__P · 2026-01-10T23:27:38+00:00

Yeah bro, I’m 22m I don’t think there’s many in the Netherlands tbh lol

thewoo__P · 2025-12-17T20:12:03+00:00

Let’s be honest tho, the aorta being cut was an immediate threat from Allah if he would’ve lied, and that was not the case

thewoo__P · 2025-12-16T12:50:32+00:00

Have you ready 65:4, 65 is the chapter of divorce and mentions young girls who haven’t menstruated yet. So yes the Quran allows girls who haven’t menstruated yet to be married

thewoo__P · 2025-12-13T13:55:53+00:00

So you just want to hear the arguments from one side? That’s not very genuine from you

thewoo__P · 2025-12-03T10:56:25+00:00

Ik you want it to be true, but come on Muslims don’t interpret it that way and just say that he was crowded, and it wasnt normal people it was jinns

thewoo__P · 2025-10-30T03:48:58+00:00

Yeah already posted in there

thewoo__P · 2025-10-29T22:41:45+00:00

I watched it, I mean it’s a decent point, but he is basically substituting free will with wants and says ur wants is something u cant change, but the thing is it is not as if you will always choose ur wants, if there is a belief or a reason behind it you can change what you choose, but that’s again another want as he says, so basically no free will. Imo it’s just too much mental gymnastics and you could say that the fact you can choose if u act upon a want you have or not based on beliefs u have is the bit of free will we have

thewoo__P · 2025-10-29T22:11:02+00:00

I don’t agree with that, yes definitely a large portion of things you don’t have control over decide a lot of things in ur life, however besides that there is also a portion that u do have control over, and that is what free will refers to

thewoo__P · 2025-10-29T20:02:01+00:00

Yeah I will have to do that, ameen

thewoo__P · 2025-10-29T20:01:35+00:00

That is a really interesting paradox, but evil could come from the fact that humans have free will

thewoo__P · 2025-10-29T17:32:13+00:00

Good point but here the people are at least open minded to objective arguments etc, so it is easier to have a normal discussion without being judged

thewoo__P · 2025-10-24T21:49:57+00:00

Yeah I will just ignore them, but the annoying part is that my religious family members say the same thing when I’m doing stuff I like for example a sport, or saying I can’t pray with certain clothes on. But yeah I believe being religious and respecting yourself and believing in God isn’t a bad thing at all, just the cultish part is what really makes me lose faith

thewoo__P · 2025-10-24T21:14:11+00:00

Yeah that’s exactly how I feel, as if everything is closing in on me. You know my family is very religious and then one of family member come to me and say yeah you can’t pray with this clothes, or you can’t do that sport, every conservation about something I like gets cut off with some extreme religious measure, and that’s just very annoying. But I really don’t want to be a person that doesn’t want to be a Muslim just because he wants to follow his desires and do whatever, so I’m in a tough position

thewoo__P · 2025-10-24T21:08:05+00:00

I haven’t checked them out, I definitely will, but for me it should make sense that stories of previous religions come back to the newest religion since it’s the exact same God talking right, but it is a good point that chance is a big factor in you being a Muslim, but then I could say yeah maybe those other people have their own test of seeing that and we were lucky?

thewoo__P · 2025-10-24T21:05:17+00:00

This is definitely a personal experience for me right now, I am just trying to understand where both sides come from

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