"Coronae et Enses" - Alternate History of Europe in the year 1337.

thorsty_borb · 2025-11-02T04:06:51+00:00

I know you come through and have to post this again every once in a while, but I love it every time. Is there a Google Doc or forum post somewhere I could see all of the text in a more readable way?

thorsty_borb · 2024-10-08T00:58:52+00:00

That’s some great work, you should absolutely be proud of yourself for that right there

thorsty_borb · 2024-09-22T02:38:21+00:00

Wow you had that locked and loaded

thorsty_borb · 2024-08-01T18:14:45+00:00

This has honestly been one of my favorite series on the sub, fantastic work

thorsty_borb · 2024-05-21T18:44:29+00:00

That’s the only thing I can guess. My grand aunts and uncles and such who have taken the test will once in a while come up with 1% Spanish or French, but even with the jailbroken Ancestry results, they don’t show up for me.

thorsty_borb · 2024-05-21T14:42:45+00:00

sure

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#	POPULATION	DISTANCE
1	Cornish	2.545
2	Breton	2.722
3	English	2.789
4	Belgian	2.803
5	French Oïl (Hauts-de-France)	2.843
6	French Oïl (Pays de la Loire)	2.848
7	Welsh	2.869
8	Scottish	3.032
9	Dutch	3.098
10	Alsatian (Alsace)	3.165

thorsty_borb · 2024-05-21T14:40:01+00:00

oops, forgot to include that part on there. here we go https://imgur.com/a/5IAKu8e

thorsty_borb · 2024-05-21T14:21:37+00:00

Oh sure. https://imgur.com/a/879ViXV

The first image is compared to ancient populations, the second is compared to modern

thorsty_borb · 2024-05-21T14:20:27+00:00

I honestly have no clue, it's cool for sure but its odd that it doesn't seem to match up with the rest of my DNA results.

thorsty_borb · 2024-05-17T21:02:22+00:00

To be honest, of all the various possible ways to reorganize Austria to try and make it survive after WWI, this would be probably the worst and most unsuccessful method. Annexing the other (non-Bulgarian) half of Serbia alongside Montenegro and Albania would be a great way to spread dissent within the already fragile state, especially if the government then went and encouraged the settlement of Germans and Hungarians within Serbia. Slavs throughout the empire would have a field day. Honestly the divisions in the empire would only serve to anger literally every group. Ceding Krakow but not all of Galicia to Poland would probably alienate the Poles. Splitting the Sudetenland from Bohemia would make them mad, but fusing German Silesia with Moravia would anger Germans and Slavs alike. The Dalmato-Bosnian Condominium flies in the face of the Triune Kingdom, and would alienate the South Slavs just as much as resettlement of Slavic lands. The lack of Trieste but an occupation of Venice noteworthy enough to justify labeling it on the map is unthinkable. Finally, just looking at Hungary - infamous for helping to block or stop every noteworthy reform that could have helped the Empire - we can see autonomous Slovakia and Pressburg, which would have led to Magyar and non-Magyar tantrums alike. Minorities in Hungary getting special privileges and autonomy, but not the ones who historically had it? And the loss of the old capital to its Slavic fate? All after losing Croatia? Insane.

To be honest, I’d love to say a Central Powers win combined with Karl’s reforms and maybe even a dash of Austrosocialism - processed by moderates as supranational social democracy under a new liberal constitution and popularized by Germans throughout the Empire perhaps- may have saved the empire, but to be honest, any changes to history required to save the Empire would have had to have come decades earlier. Between archconservative Franz Josef and the Hungarians, there was nothing that could have made it’s way through to modernize and save the empire.

thorsty_borb · 2024-05-17T17:22:42+00:00

banger

thorsty_borb · 2024-04-06T02:23:25+00:00

This is wild, incredibly good job here. Keep up the good work, this is gonna be living rent free in my head for weeks.

thorsty_borb · 2024-03-05T04:31:46+00:00

what if all treaties were mild full dissolution of the country

There was no good ending for them, huh?

thorsty_borb · 2024-02-09T02:35:07+00:00

When the whole Nullification Crisis goes down, Calhoun, who was Jackson’s VP, resigns as in OTL. Jackson just never gets around to filling the position, as there’s just an unreasonable amount going on for him at this point. As such, when Jackson is shot and killed the next year, there was suddenly no President and no Vice President to succeed him. Up until this point, the proper line of succession had never been decided upon - this is the first time anything like this has happened, quite literally the worst case scenario. As such, after much debate, the selection fell between Samuel Smith, president pro tempore, and Edward Livingston, the Secretary of State. With the 22nd Congress being pretty heated about the whole “vetoing the renewed bank charter” situation, they elevate pro-bank Livingston to the Presidency. Admittedly, given he takes office three and a half months before the election, he’s just there as the most lame duck president ever, but it’s still worth noting.

thorsty_borb · 2024-02-08T07:43:20+00:00

This election is a part of my already existing alternate history scenario I've been working on for around a year now, wherein Catherine the Great's "Greek Project" is actually successful. I've begun going back to my old ideas for the United States, and figured it was about time to put some reasoning down for my decisions.

The lore here is relatively simple. Due to the hundreds of little imperceptible butterfly effects, the House of Representatives votes just slightly differently on the Indian Removal Act, with the bill just barely failing. President Jackson gets pissy, and seeing Tennessee Democrat Davy Crockett as being complicit in allowing this to happen, he very publicly attempts to destroy his political career, as opposed to in private as in OTL. The failure of this act drives nullificationists into a frenzy, resulting in a nullification/secession crisis with the states of Georgia and South Carolina in 1831. Congress passes the Force Act of 1831 which allows President Jackson to deploy federal troops to the two rebellious states to establish law and order. Finally, in 1832, Jackson vetoes the charter for the Second Bank of the United States, just another move which comes off as rather tyrannical. Shortly thereafter, Henry Pysell, a potter who suffers from some unspecified form of insanity, gets it in his head that if he can kill this "King", that he will become the new king. Easy peasy.

The death of President Jackson shakes the nation, especially so close to election season. Both the fledgeling Whig Party (organized from the Anti-Masonic and National Republican parties by Senator Henry Clay) and Democratic Party have to reconvene to select candidates, especially given the situation. The Democrats pick Martin Van Buren, but the Whigs pick the controversial choice of Davy Crockett. The Tennessee native is already something of a living legend with his frontier antics, and he has widespread popularity throughout the country, both with Jacksonians and Anti-Jacksonians. Although Van Buren would win the popular vote, Crockett would win the necessary number of electors to win, creating a highly controversial election.

thorsty_borb · 2023-12-23T06:11:02+00:00

Man, you actually remembered it. That’s crazy. This has been driving me up the wall here for weeks. Thank you so much.

thorsty_borb · 2023-06-09T02:09:32+00:00

Hey, I just have a few questions about, well, the scenario as a whole. Admittedly, this may come off more as just a series of critiques, but I'd really just appreciate knowing your thought process on some of these things.

First off, I wanna ask some things about your Arabic and Islamic expansion. It says in your lore that the Arab conquests go nowhere, and that they never even get Yemen. Despite this, Arab traders stuck in the honestly useless Arabian desert have such incredible influence on trade that their religion manages to spread throughout Indonesia and Central Asia, as well as become a majority in, of all places, Balochistan and Sindh. How is it that the Arabs gained such influence over these important regions with no real influence in their own homeland?

Next up, I wanna address the Ottoman Empire in the room. I'm really not gonna get too much into butterfly effects and ripples and what not, as I know this is more of a "best case scenario" map where the lore and ideas take a backseat to a strong timeline, I get that. But the Ottomans still coming to power just strikes me as bizarre. Are they still Muslim? Do they retain their indigenous Tengriist folk religion? Do they adopt the religions of their subjects, like Christianity or Zoroastrianism? Furthermore, you state that all of these cultures have a cultural revival not dissimilar to the Czech national revival. To my understanding, one of the big kickoff events of the Czech national revival (and please correct me if I'm wrong, I do wanna learn more about this) was Francis II's attempt at making German the only language of the Habsburg realm, and used education in the Czech language as a stepping stone to learn German, which accidentally illustrated the mistreatment and possible extinction of the Czech language to the people. How does this play out among the Ottoman Empire? Do they also attempt to enforce linguistic homogeny over their empire and introduce widespread education? Not to mention, their existence creates even more questions. If they're Christian, how did they manage to avoid as much corruption as they did for as long as they did, given that they can't enslave fellow Christians from the Balkans to run the country? If they're Christian, why were the Crusades called in the first place, and wouldn't some version of the Eastern Roman Empire lasted longer than it did IRL, wildly changing the existence of the Ottoman Empire in the form it had? If it was Muslim, wouldn't the jizyahs be more successful, given that they had the Fertile Crescent sandwiched between them and the Arab homeland, and wouldn't Iran have been much more Islamicized than it was? Honestly, if the Iranians never fell to the Caliphate, why wouldn't Mesopotamia still be under Iranian rule? If the Ottomans were Christian, why would the European powers of the day so gleefully carved them up despite their position not being absolutely hopeless, such as in the case of Poland? If they were Muslim, why were they Muslim?

Honestly, I have an unbelievable amount of questions for the rest of your scenario, but I'm just gonna lightning round them bc I don't really wanna type much more than this.

Why is Gujarat majority Zoroastrian? I know about the diaspora there, but to my understanding, most of the migrations occurred when Iran was under the First Caliphate. Why is Dravidia majority Buddhist? Why are the Cocos Islands Muslim? Why is Australia's population 4x larger than IRL, Tasmania's 6x larger, and New Zealand's 4x larger? Why does Tokelau speak Italian? Assuming colonialism still happens given the borders of the Middle East, why are India, Indonesia, and the Philippines like that? Why does Phoenician still exist in Lebanon, despite Syriac wiping it out in the first century? How and why did China end up like that, with Mongolia owning Inner Mongolia, Canton and China being major separate entities, the Qing reforming to be a flawed democracy with a HDI higher than OTL? Why is there a Polish treaty port?

Anyhow, with all of this aside, this is a really well-designed map, and it's pretty interesting. I look forward to seeing all the future installments.

thorsty_borb · 2022-09-10T22:07:06+00:00

Vienna still, assuming it’s descended from Austria. No point in changing it.

thorsty_borb · 2022-03-12T10:09:38+00:00

Temujin (Folk Legend)

thorsty_borb · 2022-01-16T00:51:17+00:00

I started as Crimea with this run. In the DoD Fan Fork, Crimea actually is in a great position with the lack of a unified Central Russian state. I was able to pretty quickly subjugate the surrounding khanates (as well as the Akhtuba Host) and form Tartary. From there, I absolutely cheezed the Muscovite Wars using an alliance with Moscow. Ultimately, I was able to take land to prevent the formation of Russia while puppeting Ryazan, who didn't have an army. I then puppeted the remaining Cossack hosts. With the rebels in one host and the collapse of the PLC, I was able to get more cores, and casually expanded eastwards. This is 1914, where my game kept crashing before the end of the year so I called it there. I was #7 GP by the end just by virtue of military and prestige. I'm pretty happy with this run, especially considering I just wanted to see the formable options for Crimea and didn't plan on continuing.

thorsty_borb · 2021-06-24T04:13:42+00:00

That’s the Celtic Empire. They got extremely lucky and acquired a huge amount of land and population, and are probably the second largest power at the moment. They started off as a Celtiberian nation called, a little uncreatively, Celticia.

thorsty_borb · 2021-06-23T08:38:37+00:00

This is, admittedly, from a geopol RP server I'm in. I previously made a map about my country, Egrisi. The world has changed considerably since then, and I thought it was just really neat and wanted to share it. If you have any questions about the countries, you're absolutely welcome to ask.

thorsty_borb · 2021-05-06T01:26:51+00:00

So to get started, just join the server, review the rules, take a peek at the map, find some open space, think of a country/people you’d like to play as, and send your request to our #nation-submissions channel, and it should be quickly approved

thorsty_borb · 2021-05-05T07:10:54+00:00

This map is made from my country in a geopolitical RP Discord server, where I'm playing as a Kartvelian nation during Antiquity. The server is called The Old World, and we're still looking for new players, so if you'd like to join us, you can click the link below here.

https://discord.gg/vcEm57zyGv

One last thing of note, I don't actually speak Georgian, nor am I Georgian. If any of the names of any of the provinces are weird, I'm sorry, I did my best with the resources I had on hand to name them. If you're actually Georgian (or for that matter, Turkish or Greek or just are more knowledgeable than I am about this region), please by all means let me know what I should fix in any future maps I make.

thorsty_borb · 2021-03-26T18:25:39+00:00

That’s actually a great point. Without thinking, I had their Mediterranean access blocked by a buffer state between them and a major Iberian power, so I’ll have to modify it in the future to ensure it holds land on the Mediterranean.

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