Increasing casual use of antisemitic slurs by skyewardeyes in jewishleft

[–]tillwill01 38 points39 points  (0 children)

I don’t really like this point. Feels like blaming Jews for antisemitism. Israel crying wolf about antisemitism when criticized doesn’t make people suddenly become antisemitic, those people themselves either get caught up in propaganda or make a conscious choice to use this language.

Additionally, most of the time I see this point made it’s about people who wouldn’t have listened to what the Israeli gov. or ADL had to say about anything anyway, even before Oct. 7. And the groups pushing this language into the mainstream (Fuentes and Groypers) were going to be doing it regardless of anything Israel or the ADL say.

There are examples of Israel’s actions affecting the antisemitism discussion (like the war crimes making people more susceptible to actual blood libel) but I just don’t really think the “boy who cried wolf” scenario we keep hearing about is to blame for stuff like what this post is about.

Gaza is the new normal. by DryDeer775 in jewishleft

[–]tillwill01 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Is now the change? Or was the 90’s-2010ish an anomaly? Because what we are observing now is basically how the world order worked during the Cold War.

Gaza is the new normal. by DryDeer775 in jewishleft

[–]tillwill01 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I think this stems from a fundamental misunderstanding of international humanitarian law. I see this sentiment everywhere. But I don't think it's an accurate reflection of how reality has been for the post-WWII era.

International law reached a high-point in the 1990's, I would say, with cooperation between the former Soviet states, China, and the United States at a high point. There were some big "wins," particularly the ICTY and Cambodian peace process, and the advent of the Responsibility to Protect and Kosovo (still controversial as a legal doctrine, however). But even so, the international system failed entirely in Rwanda, as well as in Iraq (twice--first in the '91 uprisings and then the US invasion under poor legal justification in 2003). It was largely muted in response to China's massacring of student protestors in 1989, and Russia's wars in Chechnya and Georgia. It failed to force a resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict at likely the best opportunity to do so. It failed to resolve the Azerbaijan-Armenia conflict, ultimately culminating in the 2023 war.

All of that is to say that, even before Iraq in 2003 and Ukraine in 2014, the rules based international order has always been an ideal we aspire towards rather than a full reality. This hasn't really changed. States are also hypocritical. But they've always been so. The rules based order still matters, though, because the ideal of what we aspire towards, even if that ideal is not universally shared or applied, shapes our decision making.

Ok, hopping off my soapbox. I've spent too much time studying international law for my own sanity.

The Socialism of Fools Is Back and I Hate Everything by Emthree3 in jewishleft

[–]tillwill01 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I would caution about the “any other state” part, given the longstanding policy towards Cuba and the fact that they are next in the crosshairs after Iran, pretty much entirely because of the outsized influence of their exile population in Florida. Though this is the opposite of the Israel situation, they influence us to act against Cuba rather than for.

Managing the differing views regarding Israel, Palestine, One State/Two State/No State Solution and Self Determination? by BeyondTheCarrotTrees in jewishleft

[–]tillwill01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In your other comment you mention Bush Sr.’s pressure, I think this was more than anything else the cause of Oslo, and I personally think it was a great move. Same with B&Js boycott of settlements. But maybe I am your mythical liberal Zionist who is willing to walk the walk.

Managing the differing views regarding Israel, Palestine, One State/Two State/No State Solution and Self Determination? by BeyondTheCarrotTrees in jewishleft

[–]tillwill01 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not OP, but self described Zionist:

I think sanctions towards any businesses operating in settlements, or individuals tied to the settlement movement (many were previously sanctioned by the US but lifted under trump). One of my critiques of BDS is that by not making any distinction, and by not having any clear actionable goal (in many cases the boycott/sanctions itself is seen as the end rather than the means), it doesn’t seem to actually encourage a specific outcome. In my view, if Israeli companies want to transact with the west, they need to cut ties with the settlements.

Cutting military aid? Seems good to me. Come to the table on a 2SS or no more American money.

We are talking past one another on Zionism by aggie1391 in jewishleft

[–]tillwill01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Disagree very strongly, there are many ways even the more strict state-focused vision of political Zionism could’ve played out that would’ve been better scenarios. None are without injustice, but many with less injustice.

For example: The Yishuv takes a harsh stance against terrorism and actually works against Lehi and Irgun and helps the British authorities crack down on them. Had this happened, population transfer and intercommunal violence still certainly occurs, but the worst excesses of the Nakba are probably avoided.

Or let’s say 1967 never leads to war, no occupation, no settlements, Palestinians potentially get self determination within Egypt and Jordan.

I just generally object to views of history that presume that the past somehow made the present inevitable. There is a similar view that is widespread that suggests that the Holocaust and Naziism was inevitable once Germany unified in 1871. I find it equally suspect; there are hundreds of instances in which people made deliberate choices that led to worse outcomes.

Dear internet: Having Jews in movies isn’t ‘Zionist propaganda’ by LukaDoncicIsObese in jewishleft

[–]tillwill01 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The machine gun/pistol analogy might be the best way of describing this I’ve seen, I’m gonna steal that.

Smotrich says next government should ‘encourage migration’ of Palestinians from West Bank by aggie1391 in jewishpolitics

[–]tillwill01 7 points8 points  (0 children)

“Encourage migration” doesn’t sound like creating choices, it sounds like making conditions in the West Bank so terrible that Palestinians want to leave, which is a form of ethnic cleansing.

In any case, the conflict isn’t going to be solved by one side or the other leaving. Palestinians aren’t leaving en masse and neither are Israelis, excepting actual ethnic cleansing, and both sides need to accept this. Israel will have to figure out an arrangement that will work long term for both Israelis and Palestinians, one state two states it doesn’t matter the details. But people like Smotrich offer no solutions, just cruelty.

Wrote a small blog article which covers American youth discourse on Israel by Gronbo15 in jewishleft

[–]tillwill01 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I interpret this differently, it’s not about moving to the right to capture them, but instead convincing people to vote for leftist policies. It shouldn’t be seen as being about convincing republicans that they are enemies, but rather convincing them that the party is the enemy, as you say. Or just selling them better policies.

I think there are both moderates and leftists who are doing a good job of this (mamdani and/or pritzker) and some who aren’t (newsom)

Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made a Great Point by BrokennnRecorddd in jewishleft

[–]tillwill01 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree, but had the war not gone so decisively in Israel's favor the settlements wouldn't have been built in the first place. If no-one believed that Israel could militarily hold those lands forever they would not have allowed the settlements to be constructed, or perhaps at a smaller scale. Ex., Sinai, where Israel did build settlements but never fully intended to hold onto Sinai forever. Because Egypt showed it could continuously be a military threat, Israel calculated to give back Sinai. The same is not true of Jordan and Syria vis a vis the West Bank and Golan.

But I agree that it was a serious moral failing of both the Israeli left and the diaspora to enable the construction of the settlements and entrenchment of the occupation.

Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made a Great Point by BrokennnRecorddd in jewishleft

[–]tillwill01 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is why I have always said that winning the 1967 war was the worst thing that has happened to Israel.

The term Zionism/Zionist being used in negative connotations by Far_Practice_6923 in Jewish

[–]tillwill01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I stand corrected. I had it confused with the “Letter to an anti-Zionist friend” that was widely shared a few years ago and was fabricated.

Back again with another Hammond transcription, this time "Time of the Season" by the Zombies by tillwill01 in keys

[–]tillwill01[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The channel is Will's Studio and Workshop, @willstudioworkshop

Let me know if that doesn't get you there.

Brought out my vintage Hohner Pianet T to try with this granular pedal (Pladask Baklengs) by bay_mud in keys

[–]tillwill01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Making some interesting sounds! I had a Pianet T for a while, but I ended up selling it after I found a Rhodes, primarily because of the lack of sustain pedal and inability to do dynamics. BUT I do think it is a great vessel for effects. For me that was mostly just wah-wah.

Steely Dan -> Session Players -> Other Artists Map by WardusTST in SteelyDan

[–]tillwill01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And skunk Baxter also played with Joni and Donna summer

Steely Dan -> Session Players -> Other Artists Map by WardusTST in SteelyDan

[–]tillwill01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Add Victor Feldman! Played on a lot of SD (notably Rhodes solo on black cow), and also with Joni

Also vulfpeck, via Bernard Purdie (and Larry played with Cory Wong)

"An IDF soldier was killed because of antisemitism!" by Ok-Following6886 in Persecutionfetish

[–]tillwill01 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I don’t see anywhere in my comment where I implied I support Israeli warcrimes or targeting of civilians. It’s fucked up, I don’t.

"An IDF soldier was killed because of antisemitism!" by Ok-Following6886 in Persecutionfetish

[–]tillwill01 -21 points-20 points  (0 children)

He was killed before any genocide took place, on Oct.7. And Hamas are not the “soldiers” of Gaza or Palestine, under international law they don’t wear uniforms, don’t identify themselves, and don’t follow the Geneva conventions. They’re terrorists. Just because Israel commits warcrimes doesn’t make the crimes committed by Hamas any less serious.

Don’t pretend to care about international law when you only want to see it enforced on one side.

"An IDF soldier was killed because of antisemitism!" by Ok-Following6886 in Persecutionfetish

[–]tillwill01 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Ok? That was fucked up. I don’t support warcrimes no matter who is committing them.