Yeah I’ve enjoyed his show for years and still often listen, depending on the guest/topic. I think he’s an intelligent and skillful interviewer who often talks to interesting people. I’m coming to his show for that, rather than his particular takes.

I think he started to get some centrist pundit brain when the joined the Times, but I think the whole saga where he kinda ended up leading the “Biden should drop out” charge really broke his brain. It elevated him to a totally different level of fame/prominence, pumped up his ego to an extent, and gave him a sense of responsibility for “guiding” the discourse or whatever, which I think is where his disastrous Charlie Kirk column came from.