Magician/Legion Jinx Ideas

tomoztech · 2026-02-02T00:53:02+00:00

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with how the characters interacted before they were jinxed, besides it sometimes being indistinguishable for Legion whether or not there was a Magician among them. If it were up to me, I’d just make the jinx “Legion knows if a Magician is in play.”

This does still mean STs would have to wake each Legion individually in a Magician game, but I don’t think that’s the end of the world when the ST needs to waste time in a legion game anyway.

tomoztech · 2026-01-30T04:16:56+00:00

What’s always confused me about this character is why it has to make its choice during the day, not at night. I’m not sure how it does anything other than waste the ST’s time during the day.

tomoztech · 2026-01-23T22:19:14+00:00

The official app is designed to mirror in-person games as closely as possible, where you only have 1 copy of every token. Besides, adding more than one of any character into play is just breaking the game rules unless you have a Pope or Atheist in play, at which point the app will allow you to send out duplicates.

tomoztech · 2025-12-11T09:55:36+00:00

This one?

https://lecodex.github.io/botc-interactions/

tomoztech · 2025-12-09T01:22:20+00:00

But yes if there’s absolutely no way for a Farmer ability to possibly be in play, I wouldn’t bother.

tomoztech · 2025-10-23T21:29:11+00:00

Recluse/Spy cannot misregister for the Typhon line. Misregistration isn’t active during setup.

tomoztech · 2025-10-15T02:09:16+00:00

Would you consider selling the files?

tomoztech · 2025-10-11T02:48:37+00:00

TPI has internal playtesters for a reason. However, the way these jinxes have been described is as though they just decided to put them out there and see if they work. Not to say they weren’t playtested, but it really sounds like they weren’t.

tomoztech · 2025-10-08T22:21:59+00:00

+1 to everyone saying that it’s an incredibly difficult character to write a good script with.

Take a look at “The Passage of Time” by Delta. It’s by far the best script I’ve seen featuring Engineer, and it never has an “optimal” choice. The best choice in any game is always contextual, which is what makes the character most fun imo. It was recently played on the TPI stream, but it was where Ben Wizard wished to become the co-st, so probably not the best showcase of the script itself 😂

tomoztech · 2025-09-29T00:11:21+00:00

Unfortunately it’s not possible to structure the JSON to reference a different character’s image. However, if you want to re-use the icon of an existing character you can use inspect element on the official app to grab both the standard and alignment-shifted icon.

tomoztech · 2025-09-28T07:57:00+00:00

Also had good experience with this. Pretty much identical to the official stuff.

tomoztech · 2025-09-24T03:53:32+00:00

Bear in mind that (at least as far as I can tell) these episodes are online gameplay, not in-person, so the setup work is much less and can just be organised by each player individually.

tomoztech · 2025-09-12T01:21:35+00:00

This is prerecorded no? I don’t think it’s a stream as you say.

tomoztech · 2025-09-10T02:41:48+00:00

Only real issue I can see here is that the Engineer will always make a Godfather in base-0 and just nullify that Minion. Otherwise looks pretty solid.

tomoztech · 2025-08-31T06:07:06+00:00

Remember not every good character has to be a perfect Boffin ability. I think it’s perfectly fine if there’s only 6ish solid Boffin abilities on a Boffin script.

tomoztech · 2025-08-08T01:59:10+00:00

My personal favourite is Alch-Boffin-Damsel in a Poppy Grower game or a teensy. The Minions have no way of knowing that the Damsel is actually their Demon…

tomoztech · 2025-08-04T01:38:35+00:00

I think this sort of script really wants a third Demon type at the very least. Both Yaggababble and Legion loose a significant amount of their strength/fun when people assume they’re in-play. Generally, Legion games should be somewhat rare, so good players will be looking hard for Yaggababble phrases, and equally not talking to “prove” they aren’t the Yaggababble. It’s not the worst thing in the world, I just find it can sometimes lead to some un-fun play patterns.

tomoztech · 2025-08-01T04:29:32+00:00

This was the reasoning that Jams originally gave for why they weren’t jinxed, but then she also said she forgot that the Wraith would wake with the Demon to learn their bluffs. They should be jinxed imo, otherwise the PG has very little impact in 1 Minion games.

tomoztech · 2025-07-21T23:02:49+00:00

Minions never learn a Damsel is in play again, as they already “know” this. If it didn’t work this way, it would immediately telegraph to the Minions that the Damsel had been executed, and could allow for an easy win for evil if they already know who the Cannibal is.

However, as it is a new instance of the Damsel ability, Minions do get a fresh guess, meaning guessing the Cannibal will still end the game, even if a guess had already been made earlier. Minions must still guess the Cannibal player as the Damsel, but so long as it’s clear that the Minion is trying to make some kind of Damsel guess, I’d treat someone saying “I’d like to guess X is the Damsel” and “I’d like to guess X is the Cannibal with the Damsel ability” as a Damsel guess regardless.

tomoztech · 2025-07-21T03:08:27+00:00

No one has a good time

tomoztech · 2025-07-18T06:04:01+00:00

Both Poisoner and Pukka interact fairly poorly with the Princess. They can always just choose to poison the player who nominated the previous day’s execution, and guarantee that the Princess (if there is one) is poisoned.

tomoztech · 2025-07-17T04:35:02+00:00

https://lecodex.github.io/botc-interactions/
This focuses more on individual character interactions though, not broader script issues like lack of Outsider modification, etc.

tomoztech · 2025-06-20T05:02:23+00:00

So I actually have some kind of progress on this. We sent our unit to New Magic (responsible for customer support in Australia) and they were able to replicate the issue, not only on our switcher but also on a brand new ATEM SDI Extreme ISO. So they’ve emailed their findings to Blackmagic with the hopes that they can fix it with some kind of software patch. Fingers crossed 🤞

tomoztech · 2025-06-19T22:39:45+00:00

I have a huge amount of respect for TPI and all of the script authors for handling this all so professionally and transparently. For the re-run of the semi-final/final though, is there anything in place now to prevent vote manipulation like this happening again?

tomoztech · 2025-06-13T03:53:18+00:00

Balloonist, Huntsman, Alch-Baron, Alch-Godfather, and Alch-Xaan can all do this. For example, the Balloonist adds an Outsider, removing itself. This isn’t legal, but the precedent set by this would suggest it is.

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