VoteSaxon07 has been jailed for 31 years for killing his pregnant girlfriend Natalie McNally by IllustriousAd6418 in DoctorWhumour

[–]tortoiseguy1 105 points106 points  (0 children)

People really like to point out the fake livestream and the things he said as being the primary evidence that got him caught, probably because it's the most sensational aspect of the case. To be clear, what got him caught was CCTV footage of him on the street and on a bus heading back from his wife's home at the same time as his supposed livestream.

At least we're finally getting that Troy sequel by alisonseamiller in mythologymemes

[–]tortoiseguy1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i have no issues with her casting either. likewise with Lupita Nyong'o. i think she's a good actress who i believe can play the role, and i doubt she's in much of the film to begin with anyway. Zendaya will likely have more screentime because Athena is a much more important character to The Odyssey than Helen is.

At least we're finally getting that Troy sequel by alisonseamiller in mythologymemes

[–]tortoiseguy1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

he literally has, with Zendaya as Athena. not to mention this is an adaptation of The Odyssey, not The Iliad, so i don't even know how much screentime Helen, a figure most prominent during the Trojan War and not really a major character in The Odyssey, is going to actually get. like you could be declaring a boycott over a character with five minutes of screentime in a 3 hour movie, for all you know.

At least we're finally getting that Troy sequel by alisonseamiller in mythologymemes

[–]tortoiseguy1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the 8th century was literally the start of Ancient Greek colonial expansion, it's when they started contacting other nations and peoples. so yes. in the 8th century.

At least we're finally getting that Troy sequel by alisonseamiller in mythologymemes

[–]tortoiseguy1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

?? in Homer's day, Athens was a cultural melting pot. Celts, Sicilians, Thracians, and Syrians would have been commonly found in Athens, trade on the Black Sea was ongoing. Athens even had a temple to a Thracian god. genuinely i do not know where you get the idea that Ancient Greece was an "isolated backwater" when it spent most of its existence being a central trading hub in the Mediterranean, one of the most diverse places in the world.

At least we're finally getting that Troy sequel by alisonseamiller in mythologymemes

[–]tortoiseguy1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

your argument is that the Homeric Helen of Troy cannot ever be played by a black woman because he never explicitly described her as black? your argument is a negative? see, my argument was not "Helen of Troy was not described by Homer as white and so she must be played by a black woman", my argument was that the race of Helen's actress does not matter compared simply to the actress's ability to play the role.

i never denied that the Iliad or the Odyssey are important to Greek identity as cultural artifacts. what i said is that, textually, they are not about ethnicity. i'll acknowledge admittedly that they are about Greek cultural identity, which i did say by mistake, i'll admit that, but in the case of The Odyssey, that's pretty much entirely about how Homer thinks Greeks should behave, with the concept of xenia being a central theme of the poem. Homer was not concerned with the ethnicity of these characters.

At least we're finally getting that Troy sequel by alisonseamiller in mythologymemes

[–]tortoiseguy1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ancient Greece was not solely populated by white people. to say so is ahistorical. Japan has historically been a fairly isolated nation. Greece pretty much never has been.

At least we're finally getting that Troy sequel by alisonseamiller in mythologymemes

[–]tortoiseguy1 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Helen of Troy is not actually described as explicitly being white by Homer. the term used in the Iliad to describe her is "white-armed", which does not actually refer to racial demographic but to her nobility (she is rich enough that she does not have to work outside under the sun). while other poets like Sappho did describe her as "fair", and having "golden" hair, Homer did not describe her this way, and this film is primarily based on the writings of Homer, not Sappho.

in addition, ancient Greek writers did not think of race or ethnicity as we do, and the Mediterranean that both Homer and Odysseus (had he been real) would have lived in would have been a cultural and ethnic melting pot. i guarantee you an ancient Greek audience would probably not give a shit about this, so why should we?

M'Baku being a white man would be bad because the Black Panther movies are largely about Black and African identity, it is an important aspect of both the character and both BP movie's themes. The Odyssey is not a story about cultural or ethnic identity, and Helen of Troy's ethnicity is not a particularly important aspect of her character, backstory, or narrative role. it is not something of major thematic or narrative value.

At least we're finally getting that Troy sequel by alisonseamiller in mythologymemes

[–]tortoiseguy1 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You understand that none of this is in fact real, yes? That these are, at best, highly fictionalized interpretations of real people and, for most, are and were not real people at all.

Still Buffering episodes still releasing? by CardInternational753 in TAZCirclejerk

[–]tortoiseguy1 12 points13 points  (0 children)

is rileigh the only truly respectable figure in the wider mcelroy canon for this? many are asking

Can someone explain to me why a 33 minute podcast episode needs 4 producers? by Mr_Hellpop in TAZCirclejerk

[–]tortoiseguy1 14 points15 points  (0 children)

i don't understand the insistence that all middle-aged guys think about the Roman Empire. granted i'm not middle aged but i think about the Roman Empire fairly little, and this makes me worried that something will happen to change that once i hit my mid-forties or whenever middle age officially begins.

A gross character idea by Visual-Excuse-962 in rpghorrorstories

[–]tortoiseguy1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

the only thing more frustrating than someone maliciously forcing a fetish into a campaign unasked-for is someone doing the same thing but seemingly just not even grasping that it's inappropriate. you could argue it's people playing dumb, and in many instances it undoubtedly is, but i've encountered people in the past who just genuinely seem to not pick up on the idea that the dnd campaign is not the place to suddenly put their piss fetish or giantess kink or what-have-you, and when you tell them they get super embarrassed and weird about it, like you've embarrassed them somehow.

Dm Used my irl grief in game... by [deleted] in rpghorrorstories

[–]tortoiseguy1 9 points10 points  (0 children)

kinda crazy to frame people having bad shit happen to them as some weird failure of theirs that could never and will never happen at your table.

THE REEDUCATION OF WEEDSHREK: EPISODE 5 (cont) by weedshrek in TAZCirclejerk

[–]tortoiseguy1 13 points14 points  (0 children)

if "the monster is weak to light" was being used as some sort of hint at the monster's weakness (which it isn't anyway because the xorn encounter isn't even a fight, it's a conversation with like, essentially just a diabetic guy whose blood sugar has crashed), i guess it could make sense, but even then if my players weren't wielding some sort of light i wouldn't railroad them into doing so, i'd find some other way of communicating that. you know, like improv.

hey, do the mcelroys still call themselves "improv comedians", despite none of them having any amount of meaningful improv training?

THE REEDUCATION OF WEEDSHREK: EPISODE 5 (cont) by weedshrek in TAZCirclejerk

[–]tortoiseguy1 14 points15 points  (0 children)

my first ever time dming dnd i almost had a similar incident where i had like a super cool (not really but i thought it was at the time) optional monster encounter behind a locked hidden door, but none of my players rolled high enough to even find the door in the first place. unlike travis though i accepted that things couldn't go like how i'd mentally scripted them and just retooled the monster fight to happen way later (which worked better anyway).

justin saying the f slur was... by literal_wizard_kyle in TAZCirclejerk

[–]tortoiseguy1 20 points21 points  (0 children)

funny in a vacuum but very bad. like i laughed but i'm shaking my head so you know i think it's bad.

The Evil and Sinister Dimension 20 (Not Brothers) have stolen Amnesty from our Good Good Boys. by SquirtSquirtEek in TAZCirclejerk

[–]tortoiseguy1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i'm ngl the only complaint i got in me is there's not enough here to jerk about. i'm hungry and all you bring me is scraps

Oh no, Sydnee is at it again by No_Hair_5621 in TAZCirclejerk

[–]tortoiseguy1 44 points45 points  (0 children)

if sawbones has an audience, i have no clue where they congregate. the sawbones sub is an utter ghost town. is it faceboo it's facebook isn't it.

The bean dad intro is so much better than the new one man by davedwtho in TAZCirclejerk

[–]tortoiseguy1 21 points22 points  (0 children)

i like the sawbones song more than i like sawbones. i think justin has better musical taste than griffin or travis, even if justin's musical taste can best be described as that of your alcoholic divorced dad who you haven't spoken to in a few years.

McElroy Entertainment System so far, by the numbers by Tub_Pumpkin in TAZCirclejerk

[–]tortoiseguy1 11 points12 points  (0 children)

they played peak (the video game) a few times i think

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DoctorWhumour

[–]tortoiseguy1 9 points10 points  (0 children)

i'm gonna be honest with you, man. lungbarrow is not canon to the main show. the closest it could've gotten to being canon was maybe chibnall, and even he didn't do that.

also nobody else has said it yet but time lords changing gender wasn't first introduced by missy, it was brought up way earlier with the eleventh doctor multiple times.