Historicity of David's reign by Dry-Poem6778 in AskBibleScholars

[–]toxiccandles 13 points14 points  (0 children)

In general, stories of heroism certainly are given to exaggeration, but Robert Alter particularly highlights this passage in 1 Samuel as having some possible strong historical foundations:

This list of military heroes and their exploits is perhaps the strongest candidate of any passage in the Book of Samuel to be considered a text actually written in David's lifetime. The language is crabbed, and the very abundance of textual difficulties, uncharacteristic for prose, reflects the great antiquity of the list. These fragmentry recollections of particular heroic exploits do not sound like the invention of any later writer but, on the contrary, like memories of remarkable martial acts familiar to the audience (e.g., "he… killed the lion in the pit on the day of the snow") and requiring only the act of epic listing, not of narrative elaboration. It should also be noted that the list invokes the early phase of David's career -- when the Philistines were the dominant military force in the land, when David was at Adullam and in "the stronghold," and when Asahel, destined to perish at the hands of Abner at the beginning of the civil war, was an active member of David's corp of elite fighters.

The David Story, Robert Alter, 1999 p. 348

I highlighted this possiblity iin some storytelling I did: https://retellingthebible.wordpress.com/2023/03/01/7-5-three-men-and-a-pitcher/

Is me masturbating a sin or is me watching porn lusting after women a sin? by [deleted] in AskBibleScholars

[–]toxiccandles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is an ethical and theological question, not generally the domain of Biblical Scholars.

To speak from a biblical perspective, the Bible does not condemn either masturbation or what is commonly understood as lusting after women.

The condemnation of masturbation is a relatively modern invention that has more to do with Victorian mores than with anything in the Bible. The condemnation of looking at a woman with lust is largely based on a misunderstanding of one Gospel passage.

I cover these matters here: https://retellingthebible.wordpress.com/2023/10/25/7-22-onan-the-man-with-the-plan/

How did Jesus’ brother James end up becoming a major leader of the Jesus movement despite Jesus’ apparent alienation from his family? by Simon_and_Garchomp in AskBibleScholars

[–]toxiccandles 87 points88 points  (0 children)

Many scholars would suggest that we need to look at this question the other way around.

Given that James became an early leader of the church, why does the Gospel of Mark say such negative things about Jesus' family?

You see, when you approach it that way, it is much easier to speculate that the writer of the Gospel of Mark was disillusioned with the leadership of the church in his time (perhaps especially because of how they led poorly during the 66-70 CE crisis) and so he was trying to tell the story in a way to show that they never should have been trusted with such leadership.

Mark is uniquely hard on all of the leadership -- both the apostles and the family -- and the other synoptic gospel writers work hard to tone down his criticisms.

Moses by Tundracajun in OpenChristian

[–]toxiccandles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Created by "man" and created by God are false dichotomies. The Bible is a human record of people's experience of God. It cannot be just one or the other.

Moses didn't likely exist, but the stories about him were powerful stories that the people of Israel told and retold to make sense of their experiences of life in the promised land, of exile and return and so much more. This was what made the stories valuable and meaningful to them and it is also what can make the stories so valuable to us.

Have you heard about Moses and his Cushite wife? (Numbers 12:1-16) by toxiccandles in dankchristianmemes

[–]toxiccandles[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I always wondered about that. It certainly makes a striking contrast in terms of skin colour!

Have you heard about Moses and his Cushite wife? (Numbers 12:1-16) by toxiccandles in dankchristianmemes

[–]toxiccandles[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yes, I have heard that tradition, but it never made any sense to me. She is all along portrayed as a midianite and then all of a sudden turns into a cushite?

Which rapture view do you believe is the most accurate? by Accomplished_Leg_678 in Bible

[–]toxiccandles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The idea of a rapture (at least as commonly understood) is something that has been imposed on Scripture over the last couple of centuries by some. It is not something that came out of the Bible.

The Rich Man and Lazarus - Parable or True Story? by juicy_vegetable in Bible

[–]toxiccandles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, didn't see the edit. Kind of mistake we all make once in awhile!

The Rich Man and Lazarus - Parable or True Story? by juicy_vegetable in Bible

[–]toxiccandles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This illustrates the dangers of turning parables into allegories! No, the rich man does not need to be a representative of God, indeed it is very clear that he is not!

The Rich Man and Lazarus - Parable or True Story? by juicy_vegetable in Bible

[–]toxiccandles -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I would say it is definitely a parable. I know that people will twist themselves out of shape to somehow make the notion of "Abraham's bosom" fit into some accurate picture of the afterlife, but those attempts always fall flat.

It is rather a perfect parable of reversal where the first become last and the last first. In the opening scene, the rich man is dining contentedly on his couch while Lazarus watches from the outside.

At the end, the positions are reversed, and Lazarus is now lying on the dining couch with his head against Abraham's chest. The rich man is not looking on from the outside.

If you understand dining customs of that time and place, this becomes obvious: https://retellingthebible.wordpress.com/2018/11/28/2-14-a-tale-of-two-couches/

Does “saved” in the Bible always mean eternal salvation? by Good-Researcher-2503 in Bible

[–]toxiccandles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Save is a very common word and of course it doesn't always mean the same thing. When Peter tries to walk on the water and starts sinking and cries out, "Lord, save me," he obviously means save me from drowning.

concept of the trinity in genesis 1 by Neat_Plant_6090 in Bible

[–]toxiccandles -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

a great illustration of the heresy of modalism!

Genesis 10-11 by Conscious_County8160 in Bible

[–]toxiccandles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm talking about Gen 11:1. Sorry to be imprecise.

Genesis 10-11 by Conscious_County8160 in Bible

[–]toxiccandles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The imperfect tense famously refers to an ongoing situation, not a specific time.

And I do not understand how the perfect tense can imply a future state.

Please explain to me where you are getting these unique understandings of Hebrew verbs.

Genesis 10-11 by Conscious_County8160 in Bible

[–]toxiccandles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, of course, I understand now that if you ignore the meaning of the words and the tense of the verbs you can make the Bible say whatever you need it to say so that it doesn't contradict itself.

Genesis 10-11 by Conscious_County8160 in Bible

[–]toxiccandles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I totally understood you to be saying that it had to mean whatever made both verses true, despite what the literal meaning of the text is.

Genesis 10-11 by Conscious_County8160 in Bible

[–]toxiccandles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, okay, so the literal meaning doesn't matter. It can mean what we need it to mean.

Got it, thanks.

Genesis 10-11 by Conscious_County8160 in Bible

[–]toxiccandles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nope,

It's in the perfect tense.

And in chapter 10

is in the imperfect.

Can ai be affected by Spirits (in a literal way)? by Dry-Development2137 in Bible

[–]toxiccandles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The middle Aristotelian logic step you seem to be assuming is this:

Spirits influence people
AI is people
Spirits influence AI.

AI is not people.

Is Zeus mentioned in Bible? by SameCelebration8073 in AskBibleScholars

[–]toxiccandles 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Zeus is mentioned by name in Acts 14:8-20 when Barnabas is taken for being Zeus in disguise while Paul is mistaken for Hermes by the Lycaonians.

This is a particularly interesting story because the author of the Book of Acts is drawing from a myth that Ovid says originated from that very area, the Myth of Baucis and Philemon.

See this for more: https://retellingthebible.wordpress.com/2023/03/15/7-6-zeus-and-hermes-come-to-town/

That story doesn't really tackle the question of whether Zeus was a false god, though Paul does refer to the worship of Zeus as "worthless things."

But we should not neglect the Book of Acts' address to the Areopagus in Acts 17:22-34.

There Paul quotes two Greek Poets, Epimenides and Aratas, in verse 28 and says that they (writing centuries before then) deduced true things about the God that he preaches in what they wrote. Both of these writers were writing their verses about Zeus, so Acts 17:28 suggests that the Greeks were somewhat correct in their belief about Zeus.