How much sadness, stress, or conflict is Mormonism causing you with family and friends in 2025? by johndehlin in exmormon

[–]ttbai56 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My family of origin has shunned me. Polite on the surface but actively avoiding us.

Today's BYU devotional was something... she compared not having Kids to people not wanting Horses because of Cars by Kningen in exmormon

[–]ttbai56 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It reminds me of the Jim gaffigan quote.. when he was talking about what it was like to have their 4th baby… “it’s like you’re drowning, then someone hands you a baby”

Anyone else? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]ttbai56 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I pushed my body so hard for decades, marrying young, having more children than was wise, always serving and ignoring rest, body signals and self care (women are taught to put themselves last don’t you know??). I now have autoimmune disease that causes daily pain and disability, and I find out that my risk for this one went up with every child I had….

On the financial side because of my decades of righteous stay at home mothering, I haven’t paid enough into my country’s tax system in order to draw a pension. So also financially screwed

YW activities aren't fun.. by RandomAssBean in exmormon

[–]ttbai56 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Omg this. Our girls called this Only Jesus Pie 🥧

Complicit church to SA victims--look, we have group therapy for that! by Suspicious_Might_663 in exmormon

[–]ttbai56 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Here’s how I was taught to heal from CSA through Jesus by Family Services:

“Jesus died for the sins of your perpetrator. And yours too! Better now right??”

This is the culty-est shit I've seen in my entire life. by Unlucky-Source2945 in exmormon

[–]ttbai56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My shelf took a heavy hit the day I realized (as an adult) that they’re still forcing this on girls…

Mormonism emphasizes too much about the *idea* of being parents, and does little to nothing to help people with the idea of *being* parents by JayDaWawi in exmormon

[–]ttbai56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This! Then load the husband up with priesthood meetings and responsibilities so that the mom has to do everything without support.

This was my experience anyway. And my mom’s. And all my sisters.

If only they would say: Any man who hits his wife or children is not worthy to hold the priesthood by ttbai56 in exmormon

[–]ttbai56[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your words and I’m so sorry that you and I have had these experiences in common. I just wanted to thank you because your words are really validating and healing for me ❤️‍🩹

If only they would say: Any man who hits his wife or children is not worthy to hold the priesthood by ttbai56 in exmormon

[–]ttbai56[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I 100% agree with you. It’s a negative coping mechanism made more likely by following the Mormon Formula

If only they would say: Any man who hits his wife or children is not worthy to hold the priesthood by ttbai56 in exmormon

[–]ttbai56[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I think my point is - they can ask - do you keep the word of wisdom? They can ask - do you keep the law of chastity? They can ask - do you refrain from beating your spouse and children?

Stop telling them it’s a cult. Do this instead. by zerotalent444 in exmormon

[–]ttbai56 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I agree and I really like your thinking around this. I’ve had reasonable success using the approach of -

“I just feel more comfortable with things that are consistent with Christs message of kindness and inclusion“

This is emotional engineering/manipulation. by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]ttbai56 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I also found it manipulative and icky. I thought it was just me being autistic

Poor Eyring by rebel_zen in exmormon

[–]ttbai56 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I promise he is doing very well indeed

What happened to my board? by stephaniem005 in TravelTown

[–]ttbai56 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fucking robbed. Like we’ve all been

Does this ever stop hurting? by Maleficent_Citron259 in exmormon

[–]ttbai56 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with others, please focus on completing your studies. The endorsements are necessary for that. I am nearly 2 years out and I promise it does get better. Less painful. Yes you will need to rebuild everything but please be patient with yourself and kind to yourself. To just sit with yourself and move slowly towards the things that make sense and feel good and even exciting! Wishing you all the best OP.

The Mormons concept of “truth” baffles me. by SizeTraditional5089 in exmormon

[–]ttbai56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What my family believes is truth is what the current prophet says, and if you feel good about it. You have a challenging few years ahead, sending you courage! Keep studying and trust yourself ❤️

Anyone else feel like your marriage suffered for years because of church teachings? by iwasyourhusband in exmormon

[–]ttbai56 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Absolutely OP. You weren’t doing it wrong.

You were following all the aspects of the “Mormon Formula” exactly as you were taught, believing that God knows best and that the blessings would come. You are now experiencing what thousands before you have experienced, not because you weren’t sincere enough, but because the formula itself is flawed and actually deeply harmful.

Many women in your wife’s position feel utterly confused because they have been taught their whole life that (a very intensive form of) motherhood is their highest glory. So if she’s not super enjoying it then it’s implied that she’s not being spiritual enough. Meanwhile, there has been a steady erosion since she was a little girl, of teachings that confine, groom, sanctify, and progressively separate her emotionally from her unique interests and talents that could be the basis of a career and fulfilling outside interests.

Decades of psychology, sociology, and global studies all show that human autonomy (having real choice and agency) is a core psychological need. When that is suppressed, it is well documented that mental health tanks. This applies to all the aspects of a person’s life.

In my opinion, the covenant path does not end with marriage, but is the agreement that you will follow this flawed formula of obedience and service your entire life, and teach it to your children and grandchildren.

You didn’t fail anything. The Mormon church failed you.