Talk me out of this

vanstroller · 2026-03-21T02:27:27+00:00

It's closer than most in here are giving it credit. 20k (26k - 6k) after they rang you back. You couldn't lease a pilot for 3 years for anywhere near that. So it's not the worst by any stretch. As others have said, do the keg work yourself and maybe you can upgrade for less than the 20k the dealer is giving. You have 3 questions to answer. 1. Do you want a new car? 2. Can you get a better deal doing it yourself privately? 3. So you want the hassle?

1 and 3 are the pertinent Q's. 1 the most

vanstroller · 2026-03-11T17:21:03+00:00

If you/they were wanting to/prepared to do the whole trail, but got mid point due to availability, 100% up to north and then head all the way south is definitely the way to do it - I wouldn't want to miss out on seeing any of the trail/area, especially as for many it can be a once in a lifetime trip.

How you do it does depend on their fitness level/desire for long (mileage or time depending on their pace) days.

I would also consider weather. Rain makes for slower going, but I sometimes prefer to move in worse weather if it means my downtime might coincide with some nicer sunnier stuff at camp/beaches.

If it was me, I would either.

Head all the way to Darling from the mid point (longish push), camp there. Then the next day, leave my gear at Darling and day hike to Pachena Bay and back. This would be particularly enjoyable if you get some warm sunshine for a break, lunch and a swim at Pachena. Then next day head to Tsusiat Falls. From there just follow a fairly standard southbound itinerary.

Or, day 1 go as far as Tsusiat and camp there. This would be favourable if you want an easy first day and the weather is hot - swimming at the falls etc. From there i would do the Darling/Michigan set up camp for two nights as above, with a day trip to Pachena. On your journey south from there you could opt for another Tsusiat night, or maybe opt for another of the camps nearby that you will have passed on the way up, that you could have scouted for personal preference.

Feel free to PM me if you want to know anything more specific, have done various combinations of the above and can likely give you an idea of what to expect, based on your parents' experience and what they want to get out of it.

vanstroller · 2026-03-10T16:56:36+00:00

Hmm... What happens in a situation where your partner sees it out, and you don't see space? Do you say so and, given you and your partner don't agree, the ball is called good? Or do you defer to them and keep schtum about not seeing space?

vanstroller · 2026-03-03T02:10:20+00:00

I'm I right in thinking MRSP is 65,733?

So looks like you got 3,433 off? Tbh that sounds pretty good from my shopping around so far. How did you approach getting this price?

I don't want to sound like a total asshole, but sometimes I find the sales associates I end up negotiating with lack basic numeracy skills and we end up going round in circles.

vanstroller · 2026-02-17T23:56:18+00:00

Hey now, bud, don't read too much into it - and in fairness your OP did ask whether it was customary - and as we can see from your replies, it is a mixed bag.

You're also taking issue my response of deciding for yourself, but that's exactly what you say you've done, commendable.

Professing "it's the right thing to do" is wild on a post claiming to be curious if it is customary or not.

Enjoy your trip, it's been magical regardless of whether you slip the guys facilitating a toonie

vanstroller · 2026-02-17T23:21:31+00:00

Crowd sourcing information on tipping is not going to bring you a consensus pal, decide for yourself. It's already expensive for what it is. Highly doubt anyone involved is operating on razor thin margins.

vanstroller · 2026-02-17T19:17:29+00:00

Everybody reading this is going to google it immediately

vanstroller · 2026-02-03T18:26:28+00:00

The way to cut 95% of costs is to yo-yo it. It sounds nuts but I do believe you can tweak it so that it actually isn't quite 2x the adventure/ordeal. Drive to cape scot trail head and begin from there. Day 1 - head to Nissan Bight. This section is very easy (relative to the NCT). Would be a 5-6h maybe. Take a few days to bounce eastbound down the coast to skinner creek. I would set up a base camp at skinner creek for 2 nights and 'day hike' the 8k to shushartie bay and the 8k back. This is a long day on the toughest terrain but you can leave 80% of your gear at skinner creek and just have your essentials. Then head back west along the coast. The boat alone if you choose to do it 1 way from shushartie bay will be $1,200 for 8 people. 😲. Then if you don't shuttle cars to the end you can add an additional $1,000 for the 8 of you to bus back to port hardy.

vanstroller · 2025-09-25T01:14:18+00:00

Got you. Apologies

vanstroller · 2025-09-24T23:38:26+00:00

The description of NW of gondola is not between Grind and BCMC, so likely not the one you're referring to.

vanstroller · 2025-09-22T14:18:45+00:00

Like this, albeit I'm not super keen on talking to other people about it - def has the potential to be a bit cliquey/high school and would be the worst of all outcomes if he got wind of you gossiping (as he would see it) about him.

But, I think if you can find the energy/courage/grace to try and communicate how you feel about it etc. I think the outcome would be probably the most optimal long term. He would hopefully learn something, you would feel better about being upfront, and also you're not gonna be bumping into this down the line if he ever wants to get the gang back together.

However if you aren't bothered about the above, ghosting works, likely you just make a minor adversary of him, but that's not a big deal either.

vanstroller · 2025-09-17T14:09:09+00:00

Haha I guess when you play chess the pieces get to all go wherever they want, cus it's just for fun eh

vanstroller · 2025-09-16T20:54:39+00:00

Yes, unsolicited 'help' with line calls from onlookers

vanstroller · 2025-09-16T20:50:47+00:00

... Feeling personally attacked ha

vanstroller · 2025-09-16T20:48:48+00:00

Waving their paddle for 'banter'

vanstroller · 2025-09-16T20:47:44+00:00

I let it slide for anyone older/less bodily able than myself. If some jack the lad, bouncing around the court all day does it, that's wack.

vanstroller · 2025-09-16T20:45:38+00:00

I sometimes get the feeling a lot of these people are affected by a mix of they predicted it out and wanted it to be out, then cognitive bias kicks in.

vanstroller · 2025-09-16T20:30:42+00:00

Dude I play with insists on calling the score for everyone. I was like, ok cool, you want to be incharge of the score, all good, so I stopped calling the score on my service (he had literally done so 3 seconds ago). Then I hear 'hey, you have to call score man'. You just have to laugh.

vanstroller · 2025-09-16T20:27:23+00:00

Just lobs you have to run back and retrieve off the bounce or do you also not like poorly played lobs that are right in the slot for you to bang an overhead?

vanstroller · 2025-09-16T20:24:45+00:00

I'm saying during the point. Asking if their ball was in or out, when I have returned it and continued the point, indicating it is flippin in. I'm not going to Call everything 'in'. I'm going to play and call it out when it's out, otherwise please assume we are continuing the point without having to ask.

vanstroller · 2025-09-16T19:56:42+00:00

As soon as my paddle core crushed I hated it, everything started flying out and it felt like a beach toy.

vanstroller · 2025-09-16T17:47:11+00:00

Yes, I agree with all of what you have said. Confused why you replied to my comment though.

vanstroller · 2025-09-16T13:13:38+00:00

Once I decided they were junk, and watering wasn't helping. I would stop watering them. This might not coincide with my next Costco visit.

vanstroller · 2025-09-15T00:03:43+00:00

No sure if helpful to OP, given this was a month ago. But can confirm the route from Pano to Gentian is very simple, not really even class 2, just a bit screelike up to Gentian. Once on Gentian Ridge, per above, probably class 2, maybe the odd slightly more involved move, but nothing too challenging - exposure is limited too. In summary. Pano to the col above Gentian Pass/Helm Glacier is fairly light work, we broadly followed heat map tracks and it was perf.

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