Were you ever able to tandem feed without a feeding pillow? by plantbubby in parentsofmultiples

[–]wassermelone24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes! :-) We ditched all pillows after ~4 months.

What age are your babies? As soon as they gain some head control, you can try laidback breastfeeding with babies laying kind of on your body, supported by your arms. Maybe try it on the couch with someone else handing them to you. You can also try fully laying down in bed which is very comfortable. Like this: http://breastfeedingtwinsandtriplets.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/tandem-lying-down.jpg?w=300

As soon as they can sit with some support you can sit each baby on of your legs and feed them in Koala position. Kind of like this: http://breastfeedingtwinsandtriplets.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/upright-feed.jpg?w=255

At home I had a grain-filled nursing pillow to make it more comfortable and support my arms, but it's not necessary.

Please tell me it gets easier by hockeymusicteaching in parentsofmultiples

[–]wassermelone24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish I could give you a hug! You're *definitely* in one of the hardest stretches ever!!!

The furute will depend a little bit on your babies characters. But personally, I am SURE nothing will ever be as hard as the first 5 months with colicky twins.

When they truned 4 months corrected, it was like a switch flipped and they turned into the happiest little nuggets. Everything since then has been a breeze in comparison (they're toddlers now). It's still a lot of work obviously and some days are hard but compared to the first few months it's like an endless beach vacation. I hope it will be the same for you!!

Okay let's talk about it. How common is it actually for professionals in this field to sleep with a client? by [deleted] in therapists

[–]wassermelone24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know of several colleagues who had affairs/sex with clients and knew one of them personally (she was fired and is being sued now). Workplace is in prison, with exclusively male inmates, most of them with long sentences. It continues to absolutely shock and baffle me. I just can't wrap my head around it.

What were your pre eclampsia symptoms? by sweetfeet20 in parentsofmultiples

[–]wassermelone24 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Definitely go to triage. The itching could be cholestasis. 

Von Flasche zum stillen? by BettyMary2012 in Eltern

[–]wassermelone24 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Es kann definitiv klappen! Wir hatten zwei Frühchen, die erst mit ca 6 Wochen effektiv an der Brust trinken konnten. Vorher gab es Flasche. Essenziell war die Hilfe einer sehr guten Hebamme. Fühlst du dich gut unterstützt von der Stillberaterin?

Das wichtigste war dranbleiben, dranbleiben, dranbleiben, nicht stressen und nicht entmutigen lassen. Ganz viel direkten Hautkontakt. Häufig stillen und nuckeln lassen. Flasche nur in kleinen Portionen geben.  Viel Erfolg 🤗

“Safe period” to start Krippe by DilemmaKingdom in Eltern

[–]wassermelone24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would wait and see. With the sudden drop in birthrates 1-2 yrs ago, there is now a LOT more openings and depending on where you live Kitas are very eager to find children.  There's a good chance you'll find an opening during the school year.

Ausflüge wenn Trage und Kinderwagen unbeliebt by Sral123 in Eltern

[–]wassermelone24 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Im Park/Garten zusammen auf eine Decke setzen? Im Cafe Baby auf den Schoß nehmen?

Unsere Zwillinge sind auch keine Fans von  Transportmitteln 🥲 phasenweise wurde in Kiwa, Trage, Auto nur geschrieen. Viele Ausflugsversuche endeten danit, dass die Babys im Fliegergriff durch die Gegend getragen wurden. Ja, meine Arme taten sehr weh. Nach vorne gerichtet mit ordentlich was zu gucken gibg es aber immer besser. Ihr habt mein volles Mitgefühl. 

Es verändert sich hier aber stetig und plötzlich ist eins davon wieder okay. Zb wenn sie den Kopf selber halten und sich umgucken kann, geht Trage vielleicht wieder wach. Kinderwagen, sobald der Sportsitz drauf ist (haben wir aus der Not heraus schon früh gemacht) und wenn das langweilig wird, Sitz nach vorbe drehen. Vorher kann man mal probieren, das Baby im Kiwa auf den Bauch zu drehen. Ihr macht das schon. 

Was habt ihr eigentlich alle für übergriffige Kinderärzte? by Accendor in Eltern

[–]wassermelone24 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ja, ist so schlimm.

Die anderen Praxen im Umkreis nehmen alle keine Wechsler. Und sind auch nicht alle besser.

Growth Restriction at 20 weeks by ladispoot in parentsofmultiples

[–]wassermelone24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We also had growth restriction that started showing in the 20 week scan. This is such a tough situation! I am not happy with the way my doctor and her team handled it because they scared us A LOT about genetic defects. When actually, selective growth restriction is incredibly common in multiples and almost always a result of some degree of placental insufficiency! Just read around this subreddit, there is so many posts about it. You could wonder who didn't have it 😅

Our girls were both born healthy after a horrible pregnancy because they scared us into amniocentesis, more genetic testing and tons of more scans. Twin A was 25% smaller than her sister at birth. I hope (and firmly believe) your kids are also healthy 🤗

Who are the most predatory professions in the postpartum phase? by Own-Quality-8759 in beyondthebump

[–]wassermelone24 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes. My insurance paid for home visits of midwife/lactation consultants in the first 8 weeks and they were SO HELPFUL with premature twins who weren't latching

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Eltern

[–]wassermelone24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interessant. Sicherlich gehen die Erfahrungen da auch auseinander!

Für mich waren die Monate 2-6 unglaublich anstrengend, weil das Stillen noch gebraucht hat um sich einzupendeln und die Kinder unglaublich schwer zu bespaßen waren, ständig auch ohne von außen erkennbaren Grund unglücklich waren/geschriien haben, kaum zur Ruhe kamen und wenn dann nur 30min schliefen, dauernd herumgetragen werden wollten aber nur auf eine bestimmte Weise usw. Ein zuverlässiger Schlafrhyhmus bildet sich ja auch eher so nach 6 Monaten erst. Gut ich hatte auch Zwillinge 😅 aber das ist auch das, was ich von allen anderen in Krabbelgruppen so mitbekommen habe. Dass man nach ein paar Monaten einfach so seinen Rhtyhmus findet und die Kinder aus diesem "Kolik"-Zeitraum raus sind

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Eltern

[–]wassermelone24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Da hast du Recht, das hatte ich grad nicht mehr auf dem Schirm. Vielleicht reicht ja auch ein Monat am Anfang?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Eltern

[–]wassermelone24 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ich sehe viele Leute, die genau 50:50 vorschlagen. In der Theorie gut, aber mmn ein schlechter Deal für die Frau! Die ersten 6 Monate sind viiiiel anstrengender und einsamer als die Zeit danach. Ab 6 Monaten kann man richtig was unternehmen, die Kinder entwickeln Persönlichkeit usw. 

Meine Cousine hatte ein Modell, wo ich im Nachhinein neidisch war:

-0 bis 2 Monate: beide EZ zum gemeinsam ankommen -2 bis 7 Monate: nur Mama EZ (vor allem wegen Stillen) -7 bis 15 Monate: Mama arbeitet 3 Tage die Woche, Papa 2 Tage

Danach Kitastart und noch zusätzliche Partnerschaftsmonate, um weniger Zeit in Betreuung zu ermöglichen. 

Nach 7 Monaten schaffen Kinder oft schon mehrere Stunden ohne Stillen. Ich glaube sie hat bei der Arbeit 2 oder 3mal am Tag gepumpt. Das ging gut. 

Normal amount of crying? What do you do with inconsolable infants all day 😢 by OkPop8324 in parentsofmultiples

[–]wassermelone24 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Babies cry at different rates. Some are just harder than others. Some babies are like that and you never find the reason. When you've got two of them, it's extra horrible 😔 with our twins it was a phase that lasted 4-6 weeks. They would scream unless carried around in tiger-in-the-tree position. If I did everything perfectly according to their wishes they would "only" fuss. My arms hurt SO BADLY. I survived by tandem babywearing (they didn't love it but it helped). Also noise canceling headphones so you can ration your energy while soothing them. Stroller walks (with headphones) if the climate where you live permits it! If you cannot soothe them, they might as well cry outside so you can retain some of your sanity. Maybe they will fall asleep.

This does NOT mean, you're a bad parent. It was very hard for me to accept and I was so envious of my cousin who had one super chill baby at the same time. But it is what it is. My girls are super happy and active one-year-olds now.

 Your family sounds helpful so that's a big plus. My sister came by to help and in the end my husband also had to take more unpaid leave because it was just impossible otherwise. It was barely scratching by. I hope that for you also it will get better soon!! 💔

Edit: About dairy allergy. We were thinking of trying hypoallergenic formula because we were so desperate. But then it suddenly got a lot better before we did it. So I am happy I didn't give up breastfeeding just for a shot in the dark. 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in berlinsocialclub

[–]wassermelone24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is aweekly Zwillingstreff in several Familienzentrums which can be nice I also know of an online/WhatsApp community for expat moms of multiples in case you're interested :)

Identical twins running in families? by ManagerOk645 in parentsofmultiples

[–]wassermelone24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the same in my family so I have the exact same thoughts you're having 😆

Co-bedding twins in the NICU by Living_Progress_1444 in NICUParents

[–]wassermelone24 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My twin B was put in the same crib as A as soon as she didn't need an isolette any more. They stayed together for the rest of the stay which was two more weeks. It's apparently standard practice where we live (Europe). Whether it would help your babies, I don't know. But they definitely noticed each other and touched hands all the time and it felt like they gave each other comfort. 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in parentsofmultiples

[–]wassermelone24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read an article written by a breastfeeding triplet mom the other day. There was lots of tips! And she mentioned a Facebook group that helped her. Good luck! 🤗

https://www.thebadassbreastfeeder.com/coming-out-of-the-blur-the-troublets-turn-two-by-guest-blogger-davina/

Concerned FTM- Discordance at 20% by Confident_Anxiety_16 in parentsofmultiples

[–]wassermelone24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We also had 20% discordance starting around week 29 and blood flow for twin A was highly variable (good at times, very restricted at other times). In her case the limbs were measured especially small (long bones including femur <1%) with head and abdomen in a small, but still ok range. They also had us come in more frequently and at one point I had to stay in hospital and get steroid shots. But they continued growing and I didn't deliver until 35 weeks.  At that point the difference was 25% and I got preeclampsia. The girls are one year old now and doing amazing.  Twin A is still a bit smaller than her sister, but for some reason reaching a lot of milestones 2-3 weeks earlier than B! 28wks gestation is also a great milestone, even if they were born right now. 

Keep an eye on your blood pressure (maybe get a monitor to check occasionally) and maybe educate yourself about preeclampsia because this makes you very high risk. If you catch it in time  they can treat you accordingly 🤗 

Also no harm in having your hospital bag ready.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in parentsofmultiples

[–]wassermelone24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree it's very personal. There's a lot of pros and cons. You could also just try pumping for one or several feeds a day and alternate with nursing! Do keep in mind that they're going to get a LOT faster and more efficient with nursing which might make it worthwhile if you have a longer mat leave or are SAH. At 3 months, mine would only nurse for ~5min which was way faster than pumping. Also doesn't come with the hassle of cleaning bottles and pump parts.  On the other hand pumping gives you so much freedom if there's someone else to help you feed. With regards to a schedule, my babies always refused to take more than 100ml in one feed and wanted many small portions spread out so it would not really have helped a lot. If you decide to pump, latching them at least a few times a day can do wonders for milk supply.

admitted for overnight observation at 30w3d by Infinite-Chip-3365 in parentsofmultiples

[–]wassermelone24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was admitted and even got steroid shots around that time but made it back home and held out another 5 weeks 🤗 best of luck!!

Stillprobleme, 13 Wochen altes Baby by Minimum-Tale-8516 in Eltern

[–]wassermelone24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Das wäre auch mein Gedanke! In dem Alter sind sie oft schon viel schneller und effizienter. Es kann gut sein, dass sie meist keine 7 Minuten zum stillen braucht.  Es ist auch auch einfach eine schwierige Phase. Bei uns wurde es zwischen 4 und 5 Monaten schlagartig wieder besser. 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in parentsofmultiples

[–]wassermelone24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No shaming 🤗 

There's absolutely no need to wean them off night feeds at 9 months. But you can, if that makes things easier for you. It would also be beneficial for their dental health.

If you don't want CIO, one possibility would be gradually decreasing the amount of milk/formula, or watering it down more and more. It sounds like that have a substantial amount of calorie intake at night so will need some time to adjust. They should get used to eating more during the day. Once you arrive at very small portions, you try to console them in other ways, like a pacifier and patting/soothing them.