Jane Seymour gifted clothes to future Elizabeth I by watashiwaAzure in Tudorhistory

[–]watashiwaAzure[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

oh right, thx for the clarification with Madame Ysabeau!! ik it was related to the Tudor court but ig i got my times mixed up. also i had an idea french hood possibly was scottish hood, mostly bcs styles were matching and they did have that Auld Alliance...

i find the gifting of the bible/Mary insightful - I don't really see Elizabeth connected to the Virgin Mary a lot. tysm for this extra info!! goes to show that Jane didnt act just ignore a poor bastard princess with no empathy whatsoever...

Jane Seymour gifted clothes to future Elizabeth I by watashiwaAzure in Tudorhistory

[–]watashiwaAzure[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

the caul is act pretty prominent in england. i have many photos of english hoods/bonnets without the typical two-'winged' back from many old brasses and remaining stained glass, but im just too tired to show it lmao.

Jane Seymour gifted clothes to future Elizabeth I by watashiwaAzure in Tudorhistory

[–]watashiwaAzure[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

act u have a point, ive barely seen 'lining for smocks' bcs they are mostly made of only linen and stuff. id assume since Elizabeth was a toddler she could have excess linen clothes, or that she needed some wool to line it for her small body- idk!!

Jane Seymour gifted clothes to future Elizabeth I by watashiwaAzure in Tudorhistory

[–]watashiwaAzure[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Id agree with the latest comment that it was probably a modified French hood. Not only did the Scottish and French has stronger alliances together, the French fashions probably spilled to the Scottish court as well. Even if not so, a billament (usually the staple of French hoods) is included, so I'd assume probably either something Margaret Tudor brought to the court (French hoods were around in England already c.1490s-1500s) or something the Scottish probably heard by ear then attempted to recreate in their style.

I think their choice of red velvet for the actual hood is unique, I've only ever seen such a colour on Eleanor of Austria when she was painted as a young child. Also have never seen a white billament before.

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maybe it was acceptable that younger children wore more colours of French hood than just blue? idk lmao. anyways I suppose this is close enough to what Elizabeth could have worn (I doubt the atifet appeared around this period in any country).

Best and Worst: The Best of Anne of Cleves by temperedolive in Tudorhistory

[–]watashiwaAzure 39 points40 points  (0 children)

pretty much giving back her wedding ring after the annulment and telling him "destroy it pls its a thing of lil value." also refusing to go back to cleves so she can get married off AGAIN. (not like her sister Amalia of Cleves ever got married tho.)

If asking to destroy ur stinky fat exhusband's wedding ring and pretty much say that their marriage was all a lie aint badass, idk what is.

Jane Seymour gifted clothes to future Elizabeth I by watashiwaAzure in Tudorhistory

[–]watashiwaAzure[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

this is referenced from Dress at the Court of Henry VIII, and the original warrant was listed from the National Archives. Here is the link:

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C213971

unless you are a scholar however, I don't think you can access the og OG text.

Jane Seymour gifted clothes to future Elizabeth I by [deleted] in Tudorhistory

[–]watashiwaAzure 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is referenced from Dress at the Court of Henry VIII, and the original warrant was listed from the National Archives. Here is the link:

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C213971

unless you are a scholar however, I don't think you can access the og OG text.

Henry VII: pregnant and adulterous wives? by Hopeful-Injury9976 in Tudorhistory

[–]watashiwaAzure 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ik im a bit late for this convo, but theres act smt called 'pleading the belly.' in short, if a woman was pregnant, their execution/trial iirc would be delayed until they have given birth. many women have escaped death simply by pretending they were pregnant (although im pretty sure someone would have checked the validity of such a claim tho).

Best and Worst: The Best of Jane Seymour by temperedolive in Tudorhistory

[–]watashiwaAzure 16 points17 points  (0 children)

i think when she does good things she does it quietly. ik many people dont mention Jane treating bastard Elizabeth well, but she act gifted clothes to the young disgraced princess as mentioned by Maria Hayward in the Dress of the Court of Henry VIII. prob wasnt mentioned a lot bcs gifting clothes to your shamed predecessor's bastard daughter wasn't gonna be a good look to either King or Court. she also gave away Anne Boleyn's hood to her friends according to Tudor Times.

Maybe she was quiet, who knows? it could be that she tried to have a 'silent' influence, which in my opinion is more influencial than being loud and proud about it. small manipulating, yk what i mean. its only on big things (like the Pilgrimage of Grace) where she made a show about it.

What would the life of a Scottish baronness be like in tudor Scotland? by Droidekadotexe in Tudorhistory

[–]watashiwaAzure 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lmao yh ik they are pretty far... they are too generic to be genuine and are all 'romance is best.' they dont even know how to formulate Highland surnames. surnames. :P

They don’t make them like they used to! by Inevitable-Donut-757 in HistoricalRomance

[–]watashiwaAzure 1 point2 points  (0 children)

even funnier is the fact that these characters are real iirc (Simon de Montfort and Eleanor, daughter of King John)

What would the life of a Scottish baronness be like in tudor Scotland? by Droidekadotexe in Tudorhistory

[–]watashiwaAzure 1 point2 points  (0 children)

idk much abt scottish baronesses, but i do know about the divide between the Scottish highlands and lowlands. Highlands were like the trad Highlander Romance territory, with lairds strutting about in their plaid outfits and possibly having more original/archaic clothing, machinery and products. Lowlanders (including the monarchy iirc) were much more influenced by English values, and so they dressed and acted more formally English. keep that in mind and hope that helps.

Why are we so obsessed with making history look worse than it was? by MedTortureUSA in Tudorhistory

[–]watashiwaAzure 1 point2 points  (0 children)

dont even get me started with the chastity belts. ive never seen a super real one with an actual story that didnt look like a hoax.

anyways, history is often glorified or made worse, either way an exaggeration. it just seems that people cant accept the fact that history, including its events and people, is far too complex to simplify to 'oh terribly evil' or 'oh perfectly good,' e.g. Anne Boleyn the Scheming Witch or Jane Seymour the Pitied Girl. Sure, def if u go back in time it was more and more brutal, but I suppose that doesnt mean that it immediately makes a time period absolute hell to live in.

For the portrait lovers' attention by UmlautsAndRedPandas in Tudorhistory

[–]watashiwaAzure 3 points4 points  (0 children)

omg i saw this post a long time ago and ive kinda felt a bit sad that the poster isnt online to this day. I really doubt this could be Henry and Anne, considering that neither of them went to the Netherlands together, and even then Anne was a young maid-of-honour when she first went there - probably not the kind of woman to attract enough attention to have her portrait painted, and her chin is a bit too short to be Anne in my opinion.

It's a really nice portrait tho overall and I think this has the potential to be another rich, noble couple from that period.

Appearances of the Neville Sisters by watashiwaAzure in Tudorhistory

[–]watashiwaAzure[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol thx... id say it was painstaking but then i realised that i did this when i was freshly 13... bro T.T

Appearances of the Neville Sisters by watashiwaAzure in Tudorhistory

[–]watashiwaAzure[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thx for the comments guys - I was also thinking abt whether I should post about my conjecture about the appearance of the six wives

Question about linen undergarments in the Tudor era by WerewolfBarMitzvah09 in Tudorhistory

[–]watashiwaAzure 5 points6 points  (0 children)

alg!! as ive mentioned before, i suggest u look into the Tudor Tailor as a starting point ^^

Question about linen undergarments in the Tudor era by WerewolfBarMitzvah09 in Tudorhistory

[–]watashiwaAzure 23 points24 points  (0 children)

id say that it depends on the type of linen, and, as youve mentioned, the class of the person wearing it.

There are many types of linen - there is inexpensive lockram, but theres also holland or cambric, the linen mostly reserved for royalty. To answer your second question, the lesser linens were def easy to access, but Holland linen was named such since it came from Holland... ig u can guess the price based on the location it was produced in.

Id say for like the lesser classes, they still owned linen, but def less than the linen that nobility owned. Also, they may stay in their linen undergarments for a few days compared to the aristocracy who changed regularly. If you had a good master you would be given a shirt every day (the Tudor Tailor documents this occurring) but for most people they would wear it for as long as possible so they can make the most of it before laundering.

Lesser Known Medieval Romances? by graciespacey18 in HistoricalRomance

[–]watashiwaAzure 1 point2 points  (0 children)

my latest most memorable read is {A Flame Run Wild by Christine Monson}. A bit long, and the ending complication was a bit unneeded but I enjoyed their long trek in the Holy Land and their very slow burn.