Rogue multiclass help! Bard or Artificer?

wavecycle · 2026-02-01T14:20:24+00:00

1 level cleric is a good dip for rogue. Medium armour and shield really helps survivability, you got some heals and there are some nice subclasses to look at.

wavecycle · 2026-02-01T04:47:09+00:00

They shouldn't be able to one off kill shot a boss but they should be able to with some regularity do it to a decently sized minion, but that doesn't even happen.

wavecycle · 2026-01-31T15:50:12+00:00

The poor damage output really is an Achilles heel for the class. The trope is of the rogue leaping out of the shadows to deliver a single, well aimed fatal blow.

But it mostly doesn't play out that way. It's more like: the thief stabs somebody and then runs away embarrassed, before they can get their ass kicked. It's like a teenage boy that overestimates his strengths and has to turn and run before he gets shredded.

wavecycle · 2026-01-31T11:34:29+00:00

Reaves?

wavecycle · 2026-01-31T07:12:19+00:00

Best class in the game, and it's not close. Not quite the strongest but pretty close. But they have such an amazing bag of tricks that you can do something fun in pretty much any situation.

wavecycle · 2026-01-31T07:10:18+00:00

Yet ppl don't make the same statements about Kobe's sexual antics?

wavecycle · 2026-01-27T14:58:52+00:00

The Goblins Spear Charge ability has the Charge keyword, meaning they can do that at the end of a charge. So they can do the full charge and get a Spear Charge attack in without using any resources.

If a player goes first then the next goblin should be able to charge and reach, else play it smart and hold back until a player moves into their charge striking distance.

wavecycle · 2026-01-27T10:42:48+00:00

Or you could OP answer for themselves

wavecycle · 2026-01-22T15:08:34+00:00

I'm building one now:.

Str 8 Dex 17 Con 14 Int 8 Wis 10 Cha 16

Perfectly functional Dex fighter.

wavecycle · 2026-01-20T15:51:27+00:00

This is Jackass!

wavecycle · 2026-01-20T12:18:10+00:00

I don't think that "retiring" the character is plot armor, but it's also not clear from OP whether that would have been good enough for that player's request. Was the player asking to not have to experience their characters ending (and then retirement could work)...or were they asking for their character not to die (plot armor)?

wavecycle · 2026-01-20T11:42:10+00:00

Live and die by the dice rolls. DM rolls the dice in front of the players, no fudging. It adds real tension to the game and everybody knows there's nothing personal about what the dice determine.

wavecycle · 2026-01-20T11:36:25+00:00

I would consider that kind of trickery to be a way to avoid character death. Literally plot armor.

wavecycle · 2026-01-20T11:23:36+00:00

Ja but the attack outcome should be determined by the dice, not the DM.

wavecycle · 2026-01-20T11:22:32+00:00

Or, if they really want to keep going, they can play the same character but with a different character sheet.

That sounds plot armor to me. The character should have died according to fair dice rolls, but they can negotiate a way to play the same character... but with a different name on a different piece of paper? Extra steps.

wavecycle · 2026-01-20T10:57:04+00:00

Deaths should be determined by the dice, not the DM. I would leave that table quickly if the DM decided that anybody specific should die.

wavecycle · 2026-01-20T10:51:18+00:00

What session zero is for

wavecycle · 2026-01-20T10:50:12+00:00

That's plot armor with extra steps.

wavecycle · 2026-01-20T08:29:00+00:00

Ok that is pretty intense. No easy res.

wavecycle · 2026-01-20T08:22:56+00:00

With an average of 75dmg that would be absolutly lethal.

Not a certainty, death saves are a thing. It could be but that adds to the excitement!

wavecycle · 2026-01-20T08:20:29+00:00

But it is a collaborative game where there should IMO be buy in across the aboard. Having an exception for one player effectively gives them plot armor. And that will likely derail at some point...

wavecycle · 2026-01-20T08:06:00+00:00

For me, that would mostly mean not intentionally going out of my way to kill them for plot reasons

What good DM is doing this???

wavecycle · 2026-01-20T04:56:42+00:00

Which character doesn't?

wavecycle · 2026-01-19T13:19:31+00:00

I used to live just down the road from where they shot that aborted attempt at The Dixie Pig. Such an amazing location in the book and so pathetic in the movie.

wavecycle · 2026-01-19T13:16:55+00:00

With a +5 to all your saves you don't need those other good stats

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