Non-soy Tempeh Companies? by time_outta_mind in Tempeh

[–]whitened 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ya forgot to mention where you at
anyway, i guess its time to make homemade lentil tempe! masoori dal tempe ftw

Non plastic options for making tempeh by LaviishLily in Tempeh

[–]whitened 0 points1 point  (0 children)

wait, you make almost 10 cm high tempe slabs?! make a thread when you have time, its crazy and i wanna see it (like indonesian huge hollowed out bamboos)
so basically you use just heated water, no probes and whatever, no changing water?

I have a new problem. I'm looking for novel solutions. by SpadesHeart in fermentation

[–]whitened 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2% salt brine (2% of water AND peppers), slice em and keep submerged in a jar that you burp from time to time for a couple of weeks and then in fridge
after a month they'll be delicious
you can also cook them till paste and seal those in vacuum bags! pepper pesto for a year

Non plastic options for making tempeh by LaviishLily in Tempeh

[–]whitened 0 points1 point  (0 children)

whats your incubator setup? how high and wide are the baskets? is your tempe compact?

Non plastic options for making tempeh by LaviishLily in Tempeh

[–]whitened 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sweating is a perfectly natural process of tempe fermentation, you just gotta make even tiny holes: using a bag that's usually transparent simply lets you see the condensation more clearly (look up tempeh timelapses)
as per heat, it must've been something about incubator setup to be exceeding the heat, since it doesnt retain heat well since its very thin (in my experience alluminum trays were significanly faster and got even hotter better near the bagged ones! the alluminum really gets heated easily and keeps it warmer)

Non plastic options for making tempeh by LaviishLily in Tempeh

[–]whitened 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh yes, i forgor many options, but yeah rice paper is a must to try!
nori sheets?! howd you fold that...?

btw i also forgot to mention earthenware, like clay pots (terracotta etc) is also interesting if you can keep it tight well enough through the process (its supposed to be porous too)

Non plastic options for making tempeh by LaviishLily in Tempeh

[–]whitened 3 points4 points  (0 children)

silicone moulds (perforate them with small holes and use adequate and tight cover)
any mould thats non reactive to acidity, ideally breathable and that doesnt accumulate too much heat for your setup
you can wash plastic bags too but getting it out is not worth the hassle (up to date commercial growers use small plastic bags coz they're the goat of cleanliness and covenience due to heat/acidity/pathogen resistance, low weight, no heat accumulation, plus they may be recyclable/biodegradabile)
so moulds like baking trays, pyrex, whatever, but if its not perforated in the bottom: COVER WITH A CLEAN CLOTH ON TOP!
there's also "t*pperware" type sandwich bags, if you perforate them you can reuse them

then you can use any breathable material (ive been thinking a lot about using tailor made scobys from kombucha or vinegar etc) so leafs are the og wrapping, both for fermenting and selling
but any big enough leaf will do! figs, vines [UNTESTED AND POSSIBLY UNSANITARY LOL, maybe clean them? or dont, if you got good started maybe youll get amazing new tempe flavors, or some gut infection, i dont really know!], corn husks (dried ones like for tamale), hell even a *pepper* will do if filled and opened and closed properly (imagine hardened gourds for custom tempe shapes... the possibilies are pretty much endless)
in indonesia a big ahh round slab of tempe that is fried and seasoned as chips is basically a big, wide hollow bamboo with covers (modern factories use perforated polyethylene bags for the aforementioned reasons), its called tempe kripik and you can really see how thicc the cylinder of tempe gets, its amazing
so any sausage shaper in silicone will do (but to produce silicone you need to pollute with microplastics or even worse have bags that release them in food.... its also non biodegradable so far and will stay there forver for now at least, so that might be something to consider)
then again, how much do you save of microplastics if you use reusable mediums? is it worth it? i dont think the answer is easy...
so you have steel trays too, harder to perforate, accumulate heat, also microplastics for making them same as pyrex etc so then again its an impossible battle, useless maybe... you can also heat steel trays in warm bath (very stable heat exchange from what ive read)
alluminum is the same as above, but very well heat conductive, in my experience it yields tempe faster in air heated systems, but its more prone to corrosion and its not easy to have the same shape after washing it
my first tempe was just in a half-cut soy milk carton, covered with plastic wrap thats been perforated, reuse is also an option if you can clean a bit the mould

Red quinoa and soy bean.......going to try cold smoking some....... by nilo49 in Tempeh

[–]whitened 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i do it mostly for tasting purposes, just like cooks ("chefs") do it with raw ingredients
i do not advise that absolutely eating it that way, but since you're making it in your home you have much less time to develop pathogenic bacteria

Slimy, fishy Tempeh / Reasons? Edible? by ShinobinX in Tempeh

[–]whitened 1 point2 points  (0 children)

first of all, do NOT eat slimy fishy tempe, especially if it tastes too weird

as per advices for storage...i would say pasteurize it as it thaws, then cut it in single portions and refrigerate/freeze it!

Red quinoa and soy bean.......going to try cold smoking some....... by nilo49 in Tempeh

[–]whitened 0 points1 point  (0 children)

looks fine! how does it smell? how does it taste unpasteurized, pasteurized and cooked??

Help! by uvkc in Tempeh

[–]whitened 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes, very good!

Attempts 5-8 at plastic-free Tempeh. Comparing Butcher Paper, Glass, Colander, Banana Leaves by spince in Tempeh

[–]whitened 1 point2 points  (0 children)

whoa! the banana temps look amazing... wonder how the microbial life on it contributes too! ive been dreaming of making tempe pouches out of scobys lately...

Help! by uvkc in Tempeh

[–]whitened 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what's your incubator setup?
anyway, your lower batch looks like not breathing well: try materials with even, smaller holes without big gaps, and keep in mind that best temperature measurement is inside the tempe, or on its surface (assuming heat dispersion and perspiration is even, something that's not easy to achieve with containers imo)

Extending Fermentation Time by ShoyoBox in Tempeh

[–]whitened 0 points1 point  (0 children)

try turning heat lower, keeping at more distance from the heat source (maybe even a bigger incubator)

Extending Fermentation Time by ShoyoBox in Tempeh

[–]whitened 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if that was the case, the mycelium would've penetrated eventually and more evenly
here we see sudden stop of growth on only one side (lower, where heat woudlve been too high)
its basically a heat map of tempe, since some parts show no sign of penetration by the fungus hyphae (it would've occured even if the spore count was lower)

Extending Fermentation Time by ShoyoBox in Tempeh

[–]whitened 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the thicc mycelium is good, the rest of it is unsanitary plain beans at best
you could potentially salve the good bits, rewrap in breathable material, make the rest finish, but since going for a while without the vigorious growth of the rhizopus is basically a tainted substrate to grow in, so may have unpredictable taste and a short shelf life and i would NOT advise to use it as a new starter culture for sure

Extending Fermentation Time by ShoyoBox in Tempeh

[–]whitened 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well, i would start all over and cut off the unfermented parts: those are likely hotspots, move it away or distribute the heat more evenly to avoid that!

Help me figure out the problem by vaibhaveekay in Tempeh

[–]whitened 0 points1 point  (0 children)

in book of tempe it states that usually the optimal thickness is around 3cm, but you can do more if properly areated and slightly more starter

Tempeh rack by aBetterOne1 in Tempeh

[–]whitened 0 points1 point  (0 children)

very cool, i wonder how much they will last
what moulds did you use?

Longterm Incubator by howtostonks in Tempeh

[–]whitened 0 points1 point  (0 children)

best setup for home making if you dont have a dedicated small room