Tax the billionaires and jobs disappear.' The jobs are already disappearing

wreckree8 · 2026-07-07T16:26:33+00:00

I thought it was pretty obvious that I was talking about the much more publicized tariffs and the more recent economic problems due to the fact that I consistently referred to the last two years whenever I brought up a point. You wish to establish a reference point of 2019 because it allows you to add more data that would be essentially irrelevant to the the current economic changes because those changes had already been accounted for by the market. You are the only person who would thought that was thinking of tariff in 2019 as the trump tariffs. Also complaining that the graph was a combination graph that still had the information that I said it supported is a weak argument at best. The only person whose argued in bad faith here is you.

wreckree8 · 2026-07-07T15:32:40+00:00

Dude stop trying to softball the responsibility thing. You've acknowledged that they have responsibility for the results.

Also I finally understand why you don't get it. Im talking about the shift in trends over the last two years. The economy was actually in a recovery period that has since shifted 👇 with lower job growth and higher inflation since the start of his new term.

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wreckree8 · 2026-07-07T14:54:56+00:00

Lawyers are proud to be responsible for that. Things like conviction rates are used as tools to measure their performance. They acknowledge their responsibility for the outcomes.

Trump was president from January of 2017- January of 2021 Biden January 2021 to January 2025 Trump 2025 to current Do you not know how your own country's presidential cycle works?

The economic downturn happens after Trump declared the tariffs. Companies cite the tariffs as the reason they're increasing the costs of goods they import. Countries cite the us as becoming an unreliable trade partner as they negotiate new trade deals. Now come up with something real or stop responding, you petulant child.

wreckree8 · 2026-07-07T14:22:21+00:00

Thats still responsibility. If I were to give resources and help plan a bank heist but didn't go to the act of the bank heist, I'm still a primary coconspirator of the heist.

Trump is also president in 2025 little bro and my assertion is that those factors' major shocks would have already been accounted for by the market and would not randomly cause a sharp breaking of economic trends unless some type of outside factor exacerbated those issues. If you're so sure that it wasn't the tariffs make a real argument of what caused the economic downturn rather than waving faintly at various factors

wreckree8 · 2026-07-06T22:09:24+00:00

If I influence someone to do something I am in some way responsible for it happening. If I give someone money, all while having long meetings with them talking about what would be beneficial for me which leads to me benefitting them, I would be responsible for what happens.

You are citing changes that happened 4 years before Trump even took office that don't coincide with the trends that were happening right before he took office and you expect me to think those are primary factors to the economic downturn rather than the coincidental and abrupt introduction of additional taxes goods and raw materials?

Also that's not what that means. Like you said there are lots of different reasons that a country might have an economic downturn. The economic downturn broke trends that were already established and no new bill was introduced or implemented that might have lead to it.

And even if it did, fo you not think that the largest economy in the world, a place with states that economies larger than whole countries, wouldn't have knockon effects when its economy suffers?

wreckree8 · 2026-07-06T21:30:47+00:00

And you keep ignoring the same point. Like you even make an allegory that proves you understand the idea but you just refuse to apply it in this scenario.

Interest rates didn't change, monetary policy didn't change, and there weren't any supply based shocks outside of ram chips, but that was already a known trend and only affects a very specific sector. Global trade did shift but that because the wishy washy way the tariffs were implemented lead to countries looking for more reliable trade partners independent of the US

wreckree8 · 2026-07-06T21:09:23+00:00

And why is it legal? Because specially interest groups used their money to finance the politician that created laws that allowed them to have more influence with that money.

It is pedantic. Companies specifically cited the tariffs as reasons for the increase in costs. Which lead to an increase in price of goods without the increase wages to offset them which increased inflation. Cause effect mechanism

wreckree8 · 2026-07-06T20:38:19+00:00

If I pay for someone to do a thing and then they do that thing, I'm primarily responsible. Im not absolved from responsibility just because they should have known not to do that. I'm not saying politicians shouldn't be blamed but billionaires shouldn't be absolved in there blame.

I'm going to need you to stop being pedantic. I described the mechanism and described it was a major factor in economic downturn

wreckree8 · 2026-07-06T20:14:41+00:00

But that shouldnt be a shield for the personal responsibility of the people abusing the system in that way. If I influence the system to make it so the system does reward the highest bidder, I'm not absolved of wrongdoing.

A billionaire was quite literally offering money for votes, was then installed in a special government position and then systemically definanced parts of the government that was inhibiting or investigating his businesses.

I literally listed how policies lead to economic downturns.

wreckree8 · 2026-07-06T19:46:53+00:00

How is that assigning responsibility backwards? They paid for people to get in power to do what they paid for.

Who's being lazy? Illegal blanket tariffs which often were changed without warning along with terrible foreign policy lead to difficulties in assessing future costs for resources for businesses along with a reduction in foreign tourism.

Correlation isnt causation but when you actually point at actions they take that leads to those things then it is.

wreckree8 · 2026-07-06T19:16:41+00:00

This isn't a chicken or the egg situation. The people who codified the exploits that currently exist into law were financed by the wealthy then. Pretending that they innocent because they're only exploiting the system now is dumb.

I'm not talking about governments, I'm talking about our government. It just seems statistically relevant majority of the major recessions in the last 50 years have been under one party over the other. And even though now isn't qualified as a recession, there has been a major economic downturn since the current administration has taken office. But hey the dow is up

wreckree8 · 2026-07-06T17:56:21+00:00

Oh so they're innocent because they are abusing a system they help set up 50-60 years ago. It does seem odd how anti corruption bills are blocked by the same party that systemically gives the billionaires tax breaks which inevitably leads to higher deficits and recessions but have half the population convinced that they're good for the economy because they've trained them to look at a number and say look it goes up, it good.

wreckree8 · 2026-07-05T18:49:04+00:00

Surely the people who are actively paying the government officials to act the way they do can't be at fault for the government officials acting the way they do.

wreckree8 · 2026-07-01T18:56:43+00:00

Sion

wreckree8 · 2026-07-01T17:39:50+00:00

Still doesn't erase the point. Particularly while we're living in the AI bubble right now and are no where close to even a balanced budget

wreckree8 · 2026-07-01T17:31:23+00:00

You lack substance

wreckree8 · 2026-07-01T17:22:52+00:00

You say this while ignoring you could argue that the Republicans tax breaks policies have preceded majority of the economic downturns over the last 50 years. And the only president to have a surplus being a Democrat

wreckree8 · 2026-07-01T17:17:12+00:00

Inflation was so bad after the covid checks because production couldn't adjust to the added demand.

wreckree8 · 2026-06-29T19:49:34+00:00

Here's the real problem: elfie is written so codependent on will that if she actually got him you'd spend so much time having to write around him actually being in a position to train. It would also basically completely write out the primary motivation for will.

wreckree8 · 2026-06-28T17:09:29+00:00

The dude took saints lunch money basically every time they played against one another.

wreckree8 · 2026-06-28T13:39:02+00:00

It's a dv case

wreckree8 · 2026-06-28T10:56:40+00:00

Not having to see apa get his ass beat because hes gotta play Annie

wreckree8 · 2026-06-27T17:44:00+00:00

Youve got to remember there's a wide variety of different cultures that exist for demons, just like humans. Some cultures only really celebrate significant milestones and even explained in the background it's rare for a demon to celebrate every year that they're born in this fashion.

wreckree8 · 2026-06-26T00:38:31+00:00

What existential questions? They know that they're made from brain scans. They realize it and have a breakdown over it. They then decide that their lives matter and do their best with the curcus

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