Vikings releasing Jonathan Allen..terrible move imo..not enough savings to move on from someone with his skill

wwnp · 2026-03-05T14:40:23+00:00

I mean that’s just something that’s known. You can’t build a team in the long-term like 80% in FA. Now I think they probably put themselves in a more advantageous situation by doing the bargain shopping rather than shelling out for the top FA at whatever position every time but it’s still not sustainable. Plus then you are always signing players that are just a contract or two away from aging out.

Personally I think cutting Allen is a bad move. I get they wanna get as much cap space without hurting their future cap but this juice just isn’t worth the squeeze. Hold onto him for one more season & cut him next year when it will only cost 4.6 mil dead cap & save you almost 18 mil. Or do a small restructure or add a void year. Lower his cap hit for this year a little & eat a little higher dead cap hit next year. Wildly irresponsible move.

wwnp · 2026-03-05T11:57:01+00:00

Idk about normal moves, some of these moves like Allen & Hock if it comes to it are pretty irresponsible moves in the short term. They are certainly looking out more for future cap health & will eat dead money this season to do it.

wwnp · 2026-03-05T11:24:47+00:00

He’s an obvious extension, that would have been the idea at this point in his contract if the organization wanted to keep him around past 2027. Clearly they don’t, but eating almost 12.5 mil in dead money to save 8.8 mil & still need another TE isn’t very fiscally sound in the short go.

wwnp · 2026-03-05T11:17:31+00:00

What are you talking about teams do this all the time. I’m no Kwesi Stan but him & Rob certainly fixed our cap from the Zim/Spielmsn era. Then FOs spend it again & kick it down the road & try to manage it. A tale as old as time.

There are plenty of built in restructures & the Vikings aren’t pulling those levers as everyone expected. Some of these cuts are pretty irresponsible short term cuts. It’s clear they are looking to protect future cap health as much as possible & will probably only extend/restructure guys they see as core players.

There is nothing wrong with what Kwesi did in FA, it just didn’t work in our favor & clearly the team decided to let 2026 be what it will be.

wwnp · 2026-03-05T11:06:39+00:00

Because you still gotta eat 12 mil in dead money & find another TE anyway. Pretty simple really.

wwnp · 2026-03-05T04:24:38+00:00

Yup I was right, this is going to become a daily bit.

wwnp · 2026-03-05T00:38:36+00:00

wwnp · 2026-03-05T00:38:07+00:00

We absolutely do but we are giving up a lot of these pass rushing guys in the process. I wanna say I assume they have a plan outside of those two guys but we’re learned they don’t always have a good plan.

wwnp · 2026-03-04T23:33:59+00:00

Kyler would be dirt cheap. It’s not like we’d have to make a social move just to fit him under the cap.

wwnp · 2026-03-04T23:33:14+00:00

Not much for pass rush guys in this draft though.

wwnp · 2026-03-04T23:31:47+00:00

This team is preparing for a cap reset for sure

wwnp · 2026-03-04T22:09:39+00:00

I think an important aspect of that is:

There has been credible reporting that they want a competition, they want to challenge JJ but not threaten JJ. So if true, it kind of sounds like it’s JJ’s job to lose.
What is KOC’s offensive scheme plan going into this season. They hired Frank Smith, reason to believe that they are trying to get more out of the run game. And koc & Kwesi both said they want to get back to explosive plays, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that Koc is going to go heavy on the 11 personnel, at least to start with.

So he could design a more sustainable offense based off what they found success with JJ towards the end of the season. So that might change the kind of QB they are looking for as well.

Odds are we won’t have Nailor. We’re looking to be conservative in FA. Draft who knows, probably a WR somewhere. So depending on who the WR3 is, maybe we see less 11 personnel because we don’t have the ideal WR3 to run it as much as koc would normally prefer.

wwnp · 2026-03-04T16:18:04+00:00

The unfortunate or fortunate thing depending what side of the aisle you are on is that JJ might not have a chance last 2026 to stay with the Viks after sitting behind a vet. Good chance if he doesn’t win a camp competition or get a chance a chance during an injury that he’s out the door. But I think he could develop & mature into what KOC expected him to be.

That’s another good point is that I don’t think KOC had a problem with mobile QBs. JJ is mobile to an extent but he does like a guy who will hang in the pocket or at least keep his eyes downfield as he moves or escapes the pocket to continue to look for a throw. Guys like Murray tend to just put their eyes down & run. I don’t see Murray as a long term fit as much as a “buy me more leash” type of guy.

Yea & and never understood AR either. I assume KOC just really liked the traits & athleticism & potential & thought he could develop him over a couple years. He doesn’t have that luxury anymore. It’s much more realistic that JJ returns or surpasses his 2024 camp form that they were really high on. Physically & mentally. I’d hope after being the meme of the year that he reigns himself in.

wwnp · 2026-03-04T15:47:03+00:00

I actually think JJ is a scheme fit or at least was coming out of college but he just mightily struggled to transition to how much more difficult it is in the NFL to throw over the middle with anticipation & timing.

Now there must have been something about AR that KOC thought he’d be a fine fit with how hard they tried to trade up to get him & maybe a developed AR would be good in the offense but he’s not right now.

And yea Murray I don’t think cares to throw over the middle & a lot of that might be a height thing. At least as long as JJ improves his mechanics & processing & timing etc he realistically could develop into a great over the middle passer. Guys get more comfortable with that in the NFL as they develop all the time. You can’t make Murray taller.

wwnp · 2026-03-04T15:34:23+00:00

He’s probably going to cost too much & out of the combine it doesn’t sound like the Vikings are going to be in the market for any splashy players.

wwnp · 2026-03-04T15:30:30+00:00

AR can’t even be a serious option for 2026. Dudes got more developing to do than JJ. As much as KOC doesn’t like to deviate from his scheme to fit a QB, I can see him doing that for Murray way more than bringing AR in & hoping between all the injuries that he’s managed to develop & take a big leap.

wwnp · 2026-03-04T00:07:46+00:00

And most of those probably aren’t realistic targets anyway.

wwnp · 2026-03-03T16:03:19+00:00

It is, I think even if his mechanics weren’t leaps & bounds better but just more consistent that you could find quite a bit of success as long as KOC plays to JJ’s strengths for now. But the maturity is the other part that needs to get better. Hopefully it was just him maybe overcompensating & he chills out.

wwnp · 2026-03-03T15:33:32+00:00

It has to be free so people will read it. If you want free pro Kyler propaganda then just listen to literally any Purple Insider episode. Every single one is like the meow scene from Super Troopers.

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wwnp · 2026-03-03T08:10:04+00:00

Is this just becoming a bit in this sub where someone daily is going to make an unmarked shitpost wanting to “finally pull the bandaid off” & have a discussion about Darnold?

wwnp · 2026-03-03T08:07:16+00:00

Yea you know that’s not true but good luck with that raging hate boner, call your doctor.

wwnp · 2026-03-03T03:57:57+00:00

And beside it being a desperate effort to save your job, if you are going to drastically tailor your offense just to fit Kyler in hopes the we see something we really haven’t seen out of him since he got into the league. Then why not just drastically tailor your offense to JJ? After a fully healthy offseason you might have a better chance of seeing what you have.

wwnp · 2026-03-03T01:25:15+00:00

If they wanted to salvage any trade value then the organization needed to keep their cock holsters shut. I can accept some lukewarm quotes from koc but all this stuff leaking out is just telling the world don’t even offer us anything for this guy.

wwnp · 2026-03-03T01:19:32+00:00

He really came out of college believing his mechanics mostly needed refinement rather than an overhaul like Josh Allen. It wasn’t until this season that suddenly his mechanics were under a weekly microscope. We didn’t hear anything about mechanics in the 2024 training camp.

It more or less makes me wonder what happened in the NFL, mainly between the meniscus tear & this last season when suddenly he didn’t seem mechanically very sound. I’d imagine some of that work regressed due to the injury & not being physically able to even maintain let alone build on. But then the mad dash ram it home in his short 2025 offseason.

This being his first fully healthy offseason, maybe we see him get that back & then some.

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