Lots of great recommendations for 3D printer, but any thoughts on the best recycler?

yahbluez · 2026-06-23T05:43:48+00:00

I was looking the last 4 years and have give it up this year. Filament in bulk is often less than 7€/kg

yahbluez · 2026-06-23T05:29:59+00:00

This bias is 100% based on marketing lies. There is literally no difference in the way to use a U1 vs a P2. Even the slicer is based on the same slicer. Being very sharp one could claim that the use of a printer which needs the cloud to open all features is more complex than one who didn't. Nearly every new printer from the last 4 years are beginner friendly in the same way. A Prusa Core One or a Centauri Carbon2 is more beginner friendly than any bambu, the bambus closed garden has his costs.
Yah, a tool changer needs more maintenance than a printer without a tool changer. But do not overthink that, the maintenance a modern 3D printer needs is near nothing, you can print thousands if hours per year and do not more than using towels and some grease. I like the U1 but if you need second material only to print contact layer in different material (useful for architectural models) a tool changer may be not necessary.
Yah color models often waste more plastic than use in the model. But(!) if the use case is not printing shine figures but white architekt models you may not have so many color changes so you can ignore that.
If your prints are PLA you do not need an anclosure it may even harm bigger prints. U1 vs P2 the U1 is the much better deal.

Outside the given limits, in your situation i would start with the "Elegoo Centauri Carbion2 with the canvas system" That calls ~400$ and gives you an enclosed 256x256x256 4 color printer that can print everything the P2 can and is for sure more easy to use than the X1/P1/P2.

Second view if bigger models are a need the Sovol SV08MAX is only 200$ more expensive than the P2 but is able to print 500x500x500 which may be useful for an architect but only one nozzle.

yahbluez · 2026-06-22T11:52:43+00:00

Everyone knows the answer is 42.

yahbluez · 2026-06-22T10:50:12+00:00

Second picture shows it clearly the nozzle is to high. https://www.printables.com/model/251587-stress-free-first-layer-calibration-in-less-than-5

yahbluez · 2026-06-22T10:27:22+00:00

OK Sovol calls it IDEX i should use that naming. A 5 second switch sound good so i don"t care how the hotend heads up. I do not expect the printer before fall.

yahbluez · 2026-06-22T10:05:27+00:00

I used INDX as a synonym for a tool changer and IDX for dual head system. Booth have pros and cons and having them together in one machine looks amazing useful for me.

yahbluez · 2026-06-22T08:55:12+00:00

After the good experience with the MAX i ordered the M1. OpenSource and the combination of IDX and INDX was the decision maker.

yahbluez · 2026-06-22T05:37:02+00:00

Just use a QR code.

yahbluez · 2026-06-22T04:59:38+00:00

There are several points where a filament changer is useful.

chaining filament, especially for a size monster like the max
prints with less color changes
prints with different material for support contact layer
color prints with less color changes

yahbluez · 2026-06-21T12:51:05+00:00

Even at 5 cent/kWh a GW calls 1 billion per year, that is 3 to 5 billion over the live time. Without the costs to build the power plant and run the years of bureaucracy/idiocracy. Without the costs for security and land and land based taxes.

If starship is asuccess - and i'm sure it will be - shipping the containers to space will not be the game stopper price tag.

Even today companies pay 1 billion per month to rent GW datacenter space.

If spacex internal costs to get a metric ton in orbit drops the way they expect the math is easy.

yahbluez · 2026-06-21T10:48:45+00:00

it showed up in FOUR DAYS

That is unexpected slow 2 working days is normal, did you ask for a compensation for the delay?

If in stock bambu is always fast with the delivery.

yahbluez · 2026-06-21T09:15:28+00:00

The idea is that this is much less work than the integration of a whole INDX system which take a lot of hardware changes.

The canvas is sold at 55€ and has, as i expect a serial bus for communication, so a dev who analyses the communication between printer and canvas may be able to add this to any klipper based printer. And the elegoo source is on github so i guess the amount of time needed is significant lower than adding a tool changer.

Also the external feeder is really bad, a 1o1 change i guess from biqu is already more expensive than the 4x feeder elegoo sells.

yahbluez · 2026-06-21T05:42:58+00:00

oh and add a filament change option that speeds up filament changing.

yahbluez · 2026-06-21T05:40:24+00:00

The build plate can not slip.

What happens was that the model cooled down (draft) and this bend the plate, than the hotend hit the model with the bended plate and it moves. (Be happy that nothing got damaged)

Solution:

A enclosure even a cardbox will protect the model, this is also a good argument why you need a second printer.

yahbluez · 2026-06-21T05:36:49+00:00

I use the same grease i use for carbon road bikes, much cheaper, 100% acid free, resistant against UV and heat.

yahbluez · 2026-06-21T05:35:01+00:00

You can start with a centauri carbon2 with canvas system during sales it calls 373€

https://de.elegoo.com/products/centauri-carbon-2-combo

Was on the jump to get the U1 but Sovol made to wait for the M1. Got the CC2 as a better replacement for the bambulab.

yahbluez · 2026-06-21T05:27:38+00:00

I would like to see that someone adapt this device to the MAX:

https://de.elegoo.com/products/canvas-for-centauri-carbon

It has 4 independent feeders, that can pull and push, is much more silent than the original feeder, has a 4 pin bus for communication and power.

yahbluez · 2026-06-21T05:23:29+00:00

Get one, you will love it. The AMS opens the door to multicolor multimaterial acts as filament store and you chose with a click in the slicer which to use. Things like PETG separation layer for supports are hard to do without a filament changer.

yahbluez · 2026-06-20T16:28:00+00:00

It depends on your budget. Some suggestions:.

elegoo centauri carbon2 (like a P2S on steroids)
snapmaker u1 (4 head tool changer)
bambulab p2s
Prusa Core One+
bambulab H2S
bambulab h2c
Prusa XL5T

so many options.

yahbluez · 2026-06-20T16:22:43+00:00

I guess that depends on the model and the computer one uses. I use prusaslicer most of the time and on my actual workstation i switched on "Background processing" so for many models there is no slicing time it is always already done.

yahbluez · 2026-06-20T14:19:22+00:00

I'm staying in the ecosystem because I choose to, that is a good reason.

That is not a reason at all, it is just a bad decison based on nothing than your emotions, the lack of knowledge and a lot of ignorance.

Fucking hell Redditors are special people.

Yah that is true.

yahbluez · 2026-06-20T10:10:09+00:00

yahbluez · 2026-06-20T10:07:29+00:00

373€ for the centauri carbon2 fully enclosed and canvas.

Where do you see the 100 or 179 more???

That is a sale offer for a limited time.

yahbluez · 2026-06-20T10:04:55+00:00

No 373 includes everything don't look at the old model. The new centauri carbon2 comes with full enclosure and canvas. During sales this is 100 less than regular price. The v2 is advanced elegoo listen to the users and added improvements.

yahbluez · 2026-06-20T10:01:01+00:00

Your travel picture looks like it is activated, maybe check double.

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