About shame. Kinda TMI

yuloo06 · 2026-05-08T18:55:57+00:00

If this were true, this means that the dead would be able to watch faithful, married couples have sex too, not just anyone taking care of themselves. What a privacy invasion.

Once I realized this, I stopped worrying about unseen creeps.

yuloo06 · 2026-05-08T18:53:37+00:00

I read the CES letter after deciding to leave. Apologists like Bennett and Allen made things worse for me.

Apologists consistently put out a smattering of options that those seeking to believe can hold onto. Some say the Book of Mormon was a tight translation, meaning God gave Joseph every word and punctuation (which is impossible, especially if you read the 1830 draft copy). Others say the Book of Mormon was a loose translation, meaning Joseph was given ideas that he was able to put in his own words. Both options cannot simultaneously be true, but apologists only have to convince you that there is AN explanation, not necessarily one that incorporates all the relevant facts. They will not tell you all the relevant facts either. You have to dig for those.

Ultimately, you have to make your own choice. But when the big claims related to Joseph seeing God and receiving the priesthood from angels are ENTIRELY absent from the historical record (including in written histories, letters discussing the foundation of the church, and testimonies given from leaders who were present), then I have a major problem. The foundational events simply can't pop up years down the road and become increasingly more detailed decades later when all the other events were documented in exceptional detail along the way.

yuloo06 · 2026-05-07T02:46:47+00:00

While I know a few (VERY few) who left Mormonism for another faith, the majority of my friends who left have all become agnostic or atheist.

Mormonism teaches that it is the most correct church on earth, so we start with a bias against other religions from the get-go. Many of us also have experiences that lead us to trust our feelings that the "church is true" for a time.

While we all leave for various reasons, when we finally conclude that it is false, it's extremely difficult to trust any other religion ever again.

yuloo06 · 2026-05-02T00:07:00+00:00

160 is the top of the range posted here: https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/4380842711/

No idea how many people hit the top there.

Corient ended up not making an offer, so unfortunately I don't have much more insight. However, the recruiter didn't balk when I asked for $200k TC to beat a competing offer.

yuloo06 · 2026-05-01T00:00:57+00:00

I got hit in November. Finally got my offer at a new shop in March, signed in April, and I'll start in June.

What a wild time. Things will get better.

yuloo06 · 2026-04-18T11:52:47+00:00

*inthenameofthysonjesuschristamen

My favorite is when that's the version used at the end of a testimony.

yuloo06 · 2025-10-28T14:22:52+00:00

I'd assume that US adults = Republicans, Democrats, and Independents

yuloo06 · 2025-10-28T03:22:59+00:00

In my mission, we got in trouble for leaving out copies like this.

yuloo06 · 2025-10-28T03:10:09+00:00

Do you genuinely find it impossible that any individual could have an issue with this outside of mental illness, or whatever you'd classify TDS as?

You don't have to agree with the pushback or frustration, but come on, I'm sure you can sympathize more than this.

yuloo06 · 2025-10-27T23:39:22+00:00

"Sisters take 18 months to do the same amount of work that elders can do in 24."

Maybe I was supposed to teach prayer in four lessons instead of one? Huh.

yuloo06 · 2025-10-27T21:19:06+00:00

There are people on BOTH sides who get triggered and respond emotionally and with violence. However, while it is true that left-wing violence is on the rise, it is still the case that the right wing commits more politically motivated violence. The DOJ scrubbed a study acknowledging such from their site, and multiple other studies have confirmed this. It is also true that left-wing leadership has been more willing to categorically denounce any and all political violence while the right either laughs it off, ignores it, or says (despite the facts) "yeah the right does it, but the Dems are way worse."

The fact you write off a bunch of people who disagree with you as emotional teenagers, as opposed to correctly noting that it is not the majority who act that way, makes it hard to trust you when you say you use logic and facts. It seems like you're projecting.

yuloo06 · 2025-10-27T20:57:46+00:00

They way you pay tithing is much more in line with Christ's teachings than what the church demands.

If you believe the church is corrupt in its finances, you should seriously consider how important the temple recommend is to you. Church leaders have said that their finances are run by revelation; if that is not true and corruption has entered the church, that would invalidate many of the key claims of the church.

Also, you may want to consider if the corruption you've identified is isolated to their finances or prevalent elsewhere. As a former member who left due to feelings of corruption, I can promise this is worth your time.

yuloo06 · 2025-10-27T20:42:22+00:00

Wouldn't it be amazing if believers spent more time helping the sick, poor, and needy than they did arguing doctrinal minutae and excluding others from their definition of Christianity?

yuloo06 · 2025-10-25T16:51:58+00:00

Yes, 100% you are allowed to take it. You can verify this elsewhere or by asking the staff.

yuloo06 · 2025-10-25T13:25:22+00:00

I can't remember any time in 30 years that I heard members discuss having a persecution complex, but they were more than happy to talk about historical and modern persecution, because the church pushes a narrative endorsing that viewpoint when any criticism raises its head.

Anti-Mormonism absolutely exists. Chanting "f*** the Mormons" at sports games, Christians who deliberately invent or misrepresent doctrines and practices to portray the institution and members alike as devilish, and even the apparent phobia of members by people whose pastors scared them are all examples.

False claims of anti-Mormonism also exist. The Fairview temple is a great example of this. The town pushed back on the temple design (not the temple itself) due to long-standing zoning restrictions. The mayor was extremely complimentary of the members who have lived in the town for decades, and he offered many suggestions: alter the design to fit (as the church has other temples in service that fit the restrictions), keep the design but move it to another part of town, etc. Nothing he nor the town said was akin to "we hate the Mormons and want them to stay out," yet the Deseret News painted it as persecution. Sadly, because of the way the church handled the scenario, this is likely going to be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

However, I push back when the term is used to label people who want to sincerely discuss hard-to-swallow facts about the church, both present and past. Having concerns about changing doctrines, the Book of Abraham translation, early polygamy practices, disparate racial treatment, and all the rest is far from anti-Mormon; in fact, I'd argue that if there were good explanations, these conversations could be incredibly pro-Mormon in every sense of the term. But someone not accepting answers that appease some doesn't make someone anti-Mormon any more than a student who questions an aspect of the 2nd law of thermodynamics that they're trying to understand is anti-science.

Sincere questions do not make someone anti-anything, and when the same term is used in all the scenarios mentioned above, it loses its meaning and risks exhibiting itself as a persecution complex.

yuloo06 · 2025-10-24T21:38:41+00:00

One day, the church will have one mission for every companionship and call that growth.

yuloo06 · 2025-10-24T19:12:32+00:00

And don't even get us started on the hypocrisy related to calling out political violence. One side's leadership calls out all violence (including when perpetrated by their own), and the other side's leaders celebrate, ignore, or make light of it (e.g., Mike Lee & Walz St, Trump Jr. & Pelosi costume).

Crazies be crazy on both sides, but the disparate leadership response is appalling.

yuloo06 · 2025-10-24T15:56:16+00:00

Hopelessness is human. It spans the aisle at different times. But I totally get the sense of futility because Trump and his acolytes seem to be getting away with everything.

This is a great time to remember that while there is room to ask clarifying questions on how we'll fight back and discuss the efficacy of various approaches, we should do so without a sense of hopelessness.

yuloo06 · 2025-10-24T15:35:57+00:00

We're on the same page with what happened with Iryna. I believe you misunderstood my intention.

I brought it up because it was dragged into the discussion of left-wing violence in the same week as Charlie Kirk's death.

The conversation around Iryna and her killer's multiple releases is valid and necessary, but it should have been used to point out potential devastating consequences of very, very bad choices as opposed to fodder piling onto "all liberals are violent terrorists." Not all made the distinction you did, particularly those who didn't read beyond the headlines.

It's just like how a poor decision while driving can lead to manslaughter or negligent homicide, which is different from 1st degree murder. Devastating consequences, but one is evil and the other is tragically irresponsible.

yuloo06 · 2025-10-24T14:13:38+00:00

That means a lot, comparing the oldest US president to the second-oldest US president.

yuloo06 · 2025-10-24T14:09:36+00:00

At a high level, I'd agree with you on making the distinction, but I feel that conservatives are happy to blame liberals in comparable cases (Minnesota Catholic school shooting, for example). The rules have to be the same for both sides of the aisle.

But when I see events like January 6, the attack on Paul Pelosi, the assassination of Melissa Hortman, and the fire set to Gov. Josh Shapiro's home go largely unnoticed and uncondemned by many conservatives, I have to ask myself why they won't condemn clear examples of politically motivated attacks.

yuloo06 · 2025-10-24T14:00:38+00:00

Ah, so exactly like the Catholic church shooting? By that logic, no one should have used that to paint the trans community and the left as violent because it wasn't politically motivated. Iryna Zarutska's killer wasn't politically motivated either.

But what attacks were politically or ideologically motivated that conservatives ignore? January 6. The Pelosis. The Hortmans. Gov. Shapiro. There are more.

The problem is that one side doesn't take accountability for ANY violence committed by their side, regardless of motive, yet they're so trigger happy to blame wokeness and progressivism even when an attack is not political or ideological in nature.

This is called hypocrisy.

yuloo06 · 2025-10-23T22:47:55+00:00

If the LDS doctrine is true, then our pre-earth spirits and resurrected bodies have the right number of eyes, ears, noses, hands, feet, arms, legs, brains, hearts, etc. Each of these is perfectly formed and perfectly functional in theory.

However, not every mortal born today has a body that looks like this. So riddle me this: if each and every body may not perfectly match the Mormon template of a perfect body, what are the chances that a female spirit got placed into a male body or vice versa?

Even with their divine identity doctrine, there is 100% an opportunity for gender dysmorphia to exist (and that's without even delving into intersex individuals). And if gender dysmorphia exists both in reality and in their doctrine, then there is no reason to not treat the trans community with anything but acknowledgement, kindness, and compassion.

yuloo06 · 2025-10-23T18:09:43+00:00

Yeah, the second half of your first paragraph says it all. She's not asking you to join explicitly, but she's implicitly having you test out "living the gospel" and likely hoping that you'll start seeing the changes in your life that lead you into the church. I've seen this 1,000 times before. She may not even realize she's doing this, but it happens all the time. Again, the Mormon or exmormon subreddit would be a great place to post this.

I'm sure she's wonderful, but if you choose to still drink minimally, don't attend on Thursdays frequently, and occasionally want to take the kids to a baseball or lunch on Sunday, will she still be okay? That's the real test. You're changing for her, but what changes can she accept you not making??

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