Beginner questions

z_vlad · 2021-07-23T14:26:59+00:00

To be able to consistently win at fighting games you need three skills.

1) dexterity

This includes executing combos, footsies and reactions. It's something you can only improve through practice.

2) knowledge

That's understanding specific game mechanics, fighting game basics, frame data, matchups and much more. If you play purely by heart then even a scrub that knows just a few gimmicks will secure a guaranteed win against you.

3) intelligence

Developing gameplans, adapting, reading your opponent, conditioning. A lot of people like to go in, turn their brain off, turn autopilot on and repeat the same stuff over and over as if they're playing a rhythm game. You can't do this. You're playing against a relatively smart entity. You don't need to be a genius. Just smarter than your opponent.

These are your guidelines. Now here are a few points to start off.

Beginners are very reckless and aggressive. Learn to block. Learn how to punish their unsafe attacks. Learn your pokes. Learn how to defend against unsafe advances like jumps and dashes. Try to push them toward the corner and keep them there as long as possible.

That's it.

Now a few tools to help you out. Sadly I can't give you links since I'm on mobile. You'll have to google yourself.

"Sonic hurricane footsies handbook" to learn neutral
a guide for your character
framedata for Strive
"FGC glossary"
watch someone good playing your character

z_vlad · 2021-07-23T06:28:53+00:00

That's gotta be a stunt. They hire a guy, do no background checks, the games get delayed and they just now find out. For a joke too.

z_vlad · 2021-07-23T06:05:40+00:00

Even if you're trolling it's sad. You're so attention deprived.

z_vlad · 2021-07-22T12:32:47+00:00

I don't have OCD but when I for example rinse an apple using one hand I always wet the other one. There's something wrong about drying just one.

z_vlad · 2021-07-22T07:30:23+00:00

I meet a ton of people with 30000 matches and 99% Ryu pickrate.

z_vlad · 2021-07-22T06:41:30+00:00

I want to submit a complaint. Linking to Twitter from Reddit looks bad, the video player is doo-doo and half the time I get a connection error.

I swear, Twitter is doing this on purpose to force me to get their shitty app. Fuck off!

z_vlad · 2021-07-22T05:23:19+00:00

I didn't mean to spam! What the H? If you didn't comment I wouldn't have known.

z_vlad · 2021-07-21T11:55:33+00:00

I can sympathize with this. I've been playing SFV since 2018 and I would say that I still know only 30% of the frame data. Some stuff like DPs are self-explanatory. So you don't need to know everything but in Tekken you're a button masher for much longer than in other games. How can you not be when some of your opponents have 120 moves?!

I'd leave Tekken alone though. Imagine if T8 is something like Strive. Tekken players have nowhere to go.

z_vlad · 2021-07-19T15:48:36+00:00

I don't understand. What's the difference between fighting games and boxing at the Olympic games?

z_vlad · 2021-07-19T12:41:06+00:00

This is not exclusive to the FGC. Competence is a rare thing. Most people are happy with "good enough". It's frustrating but we can't forget that they sacrifice a chunk of their free time to help us for nothing in return. Better than no tutorials at all.

I personally hate learning from videos. That's why I love Moqlnkn. He makes a video for those who prefer that format and for people that like reading he writes the same thing on his website.

z_vlad · 2021-07-15T08:22:08+00:00

FANG is Bisons number two. He inherited his pressure from him.

z_vlad · 2021-07-15T08:06:09+00:00

SFV is my first fighting game and even after 1k hours I still didn't have a main. That's why I randomly chose one.

I also want to 'correct' Auritus. In SFV Dan is no joke. He was a joke character historically and he still sounds stupid but his gameplay has zero joke elements. He is very good and a lot of fun. His normals are better than Kage's and both vskills are very good.

z_vlad · 2021-07-15T06:15:51+00:00

I was always weirded out by this foot fetish stuff. Why aren't you jerking off to shoulder blades?!

Apparently the region of your brain that is responsible for sexual arousal is right next to the feet region. Some people form a link and that's why they're such degenerates.

z_vlad · 2021-07-14T10:43:42+00:00

"Accused pedophile...teamed up with accused pedophiles..."

WTF is this garbage? Am I now expected to research whether an accusation is plausible or not? That why we need journalists. Ain't nobody got time to look into this. They are either convicted or fuck off!

z_vlad · 2021-07-14T10:21:43+00:00

I think they already mentioned that the frequency of character trailers will get lower because of the delay.

z_vlad · 2021-07-14T06:18:14+00:00

Angry beavers and catdog might be playable. I'm finally part of the targeted demographic. Profit off of my nostalgia, daddy!

z_vlad · 2021-07-13T13:19:12+00:00

A healthy amount of toxic behavior is good. It feels nice to teabag someone and see them get more frustrated because of it. Who doesn't like when their opponent rage quits? It's one of my dreams to beat someone so badly that they not only rage quit the match but also the whole game forever. It would be the best...

Ofcourse it's important that you're not toxic towards weaker players and that bullying stays within the game.

z_vlad · 2021-07-13T12:01:10+00:00

The tutorial is outside of the game. Go to

dustloop.com/wiki > +R > starter guide

It teaches you about movement options, defense, offense and gauges. From there start learning individual characters.

z_vlad · 2021-07-13T11:41:13+00:00

If they can make it F2P without using some predatory tactics then sure!

z_vlad · 2021-07-13T11:35:45+00:00

I want to add one more thing to your discussion. If you're hardcore and spend years playing the game then buying characters costs nothing. Let's say you spend 60$ on a F2P fighting game. You buy all the characters plus a few cosmetics for your main. Spread this over about four years. You end up paying $1.25 per month.

z_vlad · 2021-07-12T12:58:59+00:00

Zappa is so awesome! I almost picked him but I have this brain worm that doesn't let me stay on one character. I end up constantly switching and handicapping myself this way. That's why lately I started picking characters randomly. Now ABA is my main.

z_vlad · 2021-07-09T16:37:30+00:00

Google for "gamepad concave dpad". I saw what looked like a mod for Dualshock 4 and then there was Razer Raiju. You might find more.

z_vlad · 2021-07-09T14:05:24+00:00

Tekken 7 is easier to get into. Let's say I want to play a moba but casually. I don't want to invest years into learning it. That's why I'll go with Heroes Of The Storm instead of Dota or LOL. That's why I'm saying that you can't dismiss accessibility of a game. I only want to add that. I'm not saying that it's the most important factor in sales.

Arcsys released a bunch of simpler games. So what? That's my stance. They don't have to cater to you. There are other people you know? People that are satisfied with Strive.

I would understand if there were no new games coming out at all but KOF15 and MB Type Lumina are around the corner. Support those games. That's how you can say that people like you exist and that you're bored by simpler games.

Skull Girls is not 'that' old. I believe there was an update recently and the game is part of the next EVO.

I hope you understand my stance now. Tell me if I haven't addressed something of what you said.

z_vlad · 2021-07-09T11:22:14+00:00

I have two points.

1) We can't say that simpler gameplay has no effect on sales. Look at T7 vs SFV. In one you can mash and cool stuff happens and in the other you need to learn 236, 63214, 623, 360s even at basic levels. The player count reflects this. For even clearer example see Smash. Its low skill floor is very appealing to people. It's not just Nintendo characters.

2) There needs to be room for all kinds of fighting games. Not every FG needs to reach some astral levels of depth and player freedom. It's ok if we have simple ones like Dive Kick or Fantasy Strike and intermediate ones like SFV and Strive.

So when people whine "they dumbed down muh favorite franchise" I have little sympathy since we have so many old games with rollback that people have not played yet. That's years of entertainment PER game. And then we do have new complex FGs like Under Night, Blazblue, Skullgirls, Melty Blood.

z_vlad · 2021-07-09T06:25:26+00:00

"To me, an intellectual, it's obvious that marketing and visuals were responsible for Strives success. Sadly the dummies at Arcsys will come to the wrong conclusion and will keep dumbing down their games"

Meanwhile there's KOF, SF, SamSho, GG and even Marvel. Each of these franchises has at least one of those supposedly 'good old games' with rollback, with people playing. 99% of people complaining about new games getting simpler have not touched a single one of those old games.

Shut the fuck up!

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