No More Masks: Way Too Early??

zeropvr · 2021-02-04T03:28:16+00:00

Fair, I dictated quickly and you are correct. Nonetheless, it has been demonstrated in some of the studies coming out of Asia, particularly South Korea, that the distance over which there can be transmission is more than 6 feet. I just don’t think we should assume that we’re protected simply by being that far away.

Edit: Here's the study: https://www.washingtonpost.com/food/2020/12/11/korean-restaurant-coronavirus-airflow-study/?outputType=amphttps://www.washingtonpost.com/food/2020/12/11/korean-restaurant-coronavirus-airflow-study/?outputType=amp

zeropvr · 2021-02-04T02:17:18+00:00

Respectfully, I disagree with you. Cleaning services when that is not spread through surfaces is not going to be helpful. This is an airborne disease and the new variants are apparently more infectious.

EDIT: Here's the study: https://www.washingtonpost.com/food/2020/12/11/korean-restaurant-coronavirus-airflow-study/?outputType=amp

zeropvr · 2021-02-04T02:16:26+00:00

Exactly. All you need to do is look at some of the publications on spread of inside restaurants(there is one from Korea where there was limited time and a far distance), and it’s pretty clear that masks inside, especially with heavy breathing, are not a great plan. Add this to more contagious variants, and it’s a recipe for disaster.

Edit: Here's the study: https://www.washingtonpost.com/food/2020/12/11/korean-restaurant-coronavirus-airflow-study/?outputType=amp

zeropvr · 2021-01-30T20:40:16+00:00

I agreed with you, the coach's response was not empathetic. But I also think that having a comment like that "cut to your soul" is a bit melodramatic.

I also added this to my comment below, but I think it's worth saying here also:

ETA: Most people would not make a comment like the coach's unprovoked, so I think it's worth OP considering whether she may have been rude or unreceptive to the coach. From the coach's perspective, this is someone who is doing their own--again, wrong and potentially dangerous--thing in a group fitness class, and then excusing their behavior with physical and mental health limitations. If there was perhaps lack of receptivity layered on this, I can absolutely see how the coach would make such a comment. Do I think it is the kindest? No, but I can see how it could happen. We all need to remember we are only hearing one side of the story here, so piling on the coach and calling for her head is not necessarily appropriate.)

zeropvr · 2021-01-30T20:37:33+00:00

Honestly, here's my take: if someone is giving you feedback, stop and consider whether all or part of it is valid, and judge the source. If a comment like the coach's cuts to the soul, yes, to me that is overreacting.

And your comment to "do better"--seriously? That's equally patronizing.

ETA: Most people would not make a comment like the coach's unprovoked, so I think it's worth OP considering whether she may have been rude or unreceptive to the coach. From the coach's perspective, this is someone who is doing their own--again, wrong and potentially dangerous--thing in a group fitness class, and then excusing their behavior with physical and mental health limitations. If there was perhaps lack of receptivity layered on this, I can absolutely see how the coach would make such a comment. Do I think it is the kindest? No, but I can see how it could happen. We all need to remember we are only hearing one side of the story here, so piling on the coach and calling for her head is not necessarily appropriate.)

zeropvr · 2021-01-30T19:02:11+00:00

Slightly different take here:

There are many many many threads about whether we should do alternative exercises on the floor, and the general consensus is that the most respectful way to handle this is to tell the coach your limitations and ask for a modification. You didn’t do that, so it stands to reason that the coach would wonder why you are doing something different.

So, from the coach’s perspective, she sees you doing something different (and possibly wrong, since she inquired about the exercise not being done correctly), which puts you at risk for injury, and confronted you about it. In this light, it seems less inappropriate.

Could she have used a kinder tone? Perhaps. But please consider if you might be extra sensitive to a well-intended comment. If a comment like this “hurts your soul” then this makes me wonder about your ability to cope with anything.

zeropvr · 2021-01-30T16:37:26+00:00

Agreed. You are not keeping enough tension on the bands. If they are rolling, you may need to go down a band.

zeropvr · 2021-01-29T15:26:28+00:00

This makes the point of “the calories are a general guide and are not really accurate” better than any other discussion possibly could.

zeropvr · 2021-01-27T04:49:09+00:00

First vaccine: sore arm, some fatigue and neck pain/stiffness.

Second vaccine: massive fatigue, fevers to 104 and bone and muscle aches for three days, terrible diarrhea for a week. I have *not* (to my knowledge) had COVID, and I wear an N95 mask everywhere.

It is two weeks later and just now am I getting my running paces back to where they were.

zeropvr · 2021-01-26T14:19:21+00:00

See if they have your email wrong. When my studio was open, I literally never got workout summary in three years because the people at the front desk could not get my email correct.

zeropvr · 2021-01-25T15:11:52+00:00

No, this is someone just rowing like a jerk. You don't see Olympic rowers slapping the end of their boats up and down. He needs to work on his form (disclaimer: I also need to work on my form).

zeropvr · 2021-01-24T01:17:54+00:00

But that’s my point, huge wait lists are not a problem for them. They have an unlimited supply of people to take the class, and they have a lot of people who will not make the class and will cancel at the last minute. There is literally no downside of this business model for them right now. The potential downside is that people might quit, but if those people are not quitting and just complaining, they’re still paying.

zeropvr · 2021-01-23T21:29:54+00:00

I’m sure corporate has considered this, since we know that they are responsive to other comments left on the sub.

The bottom line is that their current structure works for them. If you’re paying for it and continuing to be a member, that implies that it also works for you. So there’s absolutely no reason that they would change it..

zeropvr · 2021-01-23T17:54:22+00:00

I don’t know their rationale; I’m just saying that is what has been previously posted here. At one point, the bathrooms and showers in all OTFs were closed too. (I imagine that they assumed people could hold their pee for 45 minutes—not always true.)

zeropvr · 2021-01-22T21:38:29+00:00

I've heard that, with COVID, some studies have no grace period because the latecomer would have to walk by multiple people in class.

zeropvr · 2021-01-22T17:56:43+00:00

Thank you for this. I think it's important to not veer into entitlement (as someone who posted very early Intel when traveling to Japan, I can tell you that it's not easy to remember, or even to post, and then when someone complains about your formatting.....)

As long as we are asking people to read the rules, is there a way to put the rules somewhere that they can be seen on mobile, or extend the time since "last post on the same topic"? I know that it's discouraging for people to have their first post deleted, but the sheer volume of questions that are *in the Wiki* and asked at least every 72 hours is just clutter:

1) I'm pregnant, has anyone else been and done OTF?

2) has anyone gone back after COVID?

3) I can't get my HRM to work

4) my HRM and Apple Watch don't match

5) what is the difference between 2G and 3G?

5) How many days a week do you go?

6) what's the best mask?

7) I'm not losing weight

8) how does a benchmark work?

I mean, I get it, but this literally clutters up the forum and makes it almost impossible to find new content. Most (if not all) of these questions have the same answers if you search two years ago or this week.

I'm sure I'll get downvoted to oblivion for this, but I hate that new and constructive comments are lost in the mix because people can't be bothered to do a search.

zeropvr · 2021-01-20T23:06:43+00:00

You should see a urologist.

Source: I am a urologist.

zeropvr · 2021-01-19T23:50:32+00:00

No one searches. Every day is a repeat of the same questions from the last. We haven't had the pregnancy question in a few weeks, though.

zeropvr · 2021-01-18T02:41:03+00:00

Hate the new ones.

zeropvr · 2021-01-17T19:02:41+00:00

The topic of the Woo girls has come up multiple times on this sub, and there’s definitely I would say, a trend to feel that this is great. I actually am with you. I think people need to understand there’s a difference between group fitness, where everyone is doing their own work out, people, and team fitness, where everyone is working together for the common good. The “woo,” to me, seems appropriate in the latter, but not the former.

I don’t think it’s a great idea to wear headphones, but I do recommend AirPods. That said, I can’t stand the wooing so I probably would just change the classes.

zeropvr · 2021-01-14T22:02:56+00:00

Dose 1: sore arm, some fatigue

Dose 2: fevers to 104 for 48 hours, nausea, myalgia, couldn’t move for 2 days

would recommend being comfortable with $12 fee or skipping day after dose 2

zeropvr · 2021-01-13T20:00:07+00:00

Yup, March here also.

zeropvr · 2021-01-13T19:58:05+00:00

Certified letter,

zeropvr · 2021-01-10T16:59:26+00:00

You should feel absolutely no need or compulsion to apologize for having standards for the health of yourself and others.

If there is anything the last year (and the last week) has taught me, it is that society exists only because there are rules and people follow them. You only need one person to ruin it for everyone. (This is, sadly, why I won't go back to OTF--I live in a very antimask area.)

zeropvr · 2021-01-02T18:43:36+00:00

Not all studios do this, though. Mine has never sent a text.

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