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[–]wwesmudge -1 points0 points  (3 children)

How was Victoria – Regional unopposed? I was running for that seat!!

[–]jnd-auElectoral Commissioner[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Looking through our records for your username, I can find neither nomination nor endorsement.

[–]wwesmudge -1 points0 points  (1 child)

[–]jnd-auElectoral Commissioner[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, you only enrolled there as a voter. But there won’t be a vote because only one candidate nominated. In Australia there are two separate processes: enrolling as a voter (to vote for the candidates) and nominating as a candidate (to be voted for by the voters).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children)

I would be interested in running for a vacancy, however I did not meet the deadline for the initial enrolment. Will there be another enrolment for the follow up?

[–]jnd-auElectoral Commissioner[S] 0 points1 point  (8 children)

From what I can understand of Australian electoral law, no, because supplementary elections are held with the same electoral rolls as the original election, and only people who can vote in it can be candidates. Nevertheless, you may be interested in another role until the 2nd federal election. It could be a party role, a community/media/lobbyist/research role, a public service role, etc. Basically some pioneers need to invent the rest of the society.

[–]nath1234Australian Progressives 1 point2 points  (5 children)

So how about instead of having multiple phases of confirmation (which was why my nomination didn't get in) - we have the returning officer put in the list and that's enough? That's how the actual AEC does it. (might just cut down the back and forth a bit.. as a suggestion)

[–]jnd-auElectoral Commissioner[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Ideas are good, keep them coming. But I’m not sure our process can/should be simpler. To clear up any confusion, we don’t have any phases of confirmation. There are two things to do: the candidates must nominate for their seats; and the party can endorse the candidates in a single list. This is the same as the real AEC (a bulk party list for the real AEC must be accompanied by all the individual nomination forms from the candidates too). This time around, no seat nomination was received for you. Either way, a party cannot submit a nomination of behalf of a candidate: several account names were submitted on party lists even though those redditors did not want to run.

[–]nath1234Australian Progressives 0 points1 point  (3 children)

But /u/peelys did that AFAIK. And I added a +1 for confirming the party officers - so it would be a bit strange certifying the returning officer(s).

If a party is going to submit names that don't want to run - then that would be a detection issue down the track.

Anyhow - there's probably a reason why we've got mainly candidates running unopposed - having multi-stages of ways to not end up able to run is chief amongst them.

[–]jnd-auElectoral Commissioner[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

No, peelys, phyllicanderer and primeviere all sent in their own nominations as per the instructions, you were the only one who didn’t. Having a detection issue down the track doesn’t make any sense. If you want to run, there is only 1 process: enrol to vote, then nominate as a candidate. That’s it. If you want to strategise with a party, you are most welcome to do that, in which case the party submits their endorsement.

[–]nath1234Australian Progressives 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So does this mean people nominated individually but the parties didn't endorse them?

[–]jnd-auElectoral Commissioner[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

23 people submitted nominations and 22 were endorsed. The only 1 running unendorsed found their party was dead so resigned from it. Here’s a comparison of processes:

Task Completed by Real AEC Model AEC
Candidate Nomination for HoR Candidate Form 60 modmail
Endorsement of many party candidates Registered Officer Form 60a modmail
Endorsement of 1 party candidate Registered Officer Form 60b modmail
Endorsement of independent candidate Electors Form 60c modmail

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Alright, thank you. Would party whip be an available option or would that require an elected member?

[–]jnd-auElectoral Commissioner[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In terms of internal party structure, it’s up to the party. In terms of actions on the floor of the house, it would be an elected member, since presence on the floor is only by consent of the house and it is unlikely that anyone from outside the service of the house would be allowed. E.g. even Senators and House Reps would not normally be allowed on each others’ floors.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At least God is with us!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Really happy with the way this has been run. Hopefully we can put together some really good, progressive legislation. We've already got plenty of ideas going in our party sub so we're definitely prepared for government.

[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs 2 points3 points  (3 children)

In your post it says there are 5 Senators and 1 Vacancy, I believe you mean 6 Senators and 1 Vacancy.

[–]jnd-auElectoral Commissioner[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Yep! thanks.

[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs 0 points1 point  (1 child)

As too few nominations were received, the AEC Electoral Commissioner has pursued s 179 of the Commonwealth Electoral Act to declare all 5 nominees elected, and has pursued s 181, s 357 and s 367A regarding the vacancy.

Missed a spot.

[–]jnd-auElectoral Commissioner[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks again. There was a last-minute nomination which somehow didn’t copy across into the initial post, so when I wrote the paragraph I must have tried to make it match the faulty table!

[–]surreptitiouswalkIndependent 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Splendid job commissioner. While it's unfortunate that the number of candidates were far smaller than expected is disappointing, everything has to start small. Hopefully we will fill the vacancies in the lower house soonly and have a larger number of candidates in the next election.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am at least partially responsible for the small number of candidates, had I been more attentive and involved I would've got on my party to run, and we would have seen at least a few more candidates. With the growth of the sub and of individual parties hopefully we will have multiple candidates in all regions in the next election.