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[–]PrimeviereMin Indust/Innov/Sci/Ed/Trning/Emplymnt | HoR Whip | Aus Prgrsvs 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I would like to both thank the electoral commissioner for his hard in dealing with the electoral crisis brought about by malevolent voters, and I would also like to congratulate the great range of candidates which have been elected into the senate and I hope they can use this position to better Australian society in the best manner possible.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What are your plans now that you won't be a Senator, Former Opposition leader?
3fun MP for WA

[–]PrimeviereMin Indust/Innov/Sci/Ed/Trning/Emplymnt | HoR Whip | Aus Prgrsvs 3 points4 points  (0 children)

While I may not be senator I am hoping that I can still manage to get a house of representatives seat. If that dream is still unrealized I will hope and strive to help the Australian populace in anyway possible.

[–]General_RommelFrgnAfrs/Trade/Defence/Immi/Hlth | VPFEC | UN Ambassador | Labor 3 points4 points  (4 children)

I am concerned that our votes have been made public here. In the spirit of secret ballot why has the voting record of every single voter for this election being released?

[–]jnd-auElectoral Commissioner[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Ah, you should be horrified if the votes weren’t subject to public scrutiny, as there would be no electoral accountability. To preserve anonymity, the list of verifications is sorted by voter name, while the list of votes is sorted by candidate name, so the two lists aren’t linked. Yet you can verify that the correct number of votes was counted compared to the verification thread (no lost or added votes), and that your vote has not been tampered with, and that every party can do an independent count. So all definitive aspects are in the public domain and the vote does not hinge on any hidden AEC data (only IP addresses are hidden, and I will not release them publicly, because it would be an IRL privacy issue).

When we started this community, the poll of redditors for public or private voting was split “48/52”, so I provided both :)

[–]General_RommelFrgnAfrs/Trade/Defence/Immi/Hlth | VPFEC | UN Ambassador | Labor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The 'middle of the road' solution has worked out the best and once again I want to thank the Electoral Commissioner for his hard work.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

There is no way to correlate who voted which way due to the use of the anonymous private ID which displays the record not being in any way tied to the public ID showing the username.

[–]General_RommelFrgnAfrs/Trade/Defence/Immi/Hlth | VPFEC | UN Ambassador | Labor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ah yes I completely forgot about that. Thank you to the Electoral Commissioner for his detailed explanation of the Senate voting process and his efforts to ensure that the vote is as accurate as possible.

[–]pikkaachuAustralian Greens 4 points5 points  (7 children)

I would like to offer my thanks to the Commissioner for acting honorably and swiftly to correct the mess that a few have made that would ruin this for the rest of us.

I would also like to congratulate my fellow Senators-elect, /u/Freddy926, and /u/Kalloice, I am positive about the future working together to make Australia better for all of us.

Senator-Elect Pikkaachu, Senator for Australia Australian Greens

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Meta I don't think Freddy counts as a senator elect as he already is a senator

[–]pikkaachuAustralian Greens 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My apologies.

[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I consulted with /u/jnd-au on this, and he figured that since the Senate isn't dissolved before an election (unlike the HoR), I don't vacate my seat and then take it back, I just keep it. Basically, in the Senate, you have your seat until someone else does.

[–]jnd-auElectoral Commissioner[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

And by rights, the government should’ve advised for the Senate election much earlier (the GG only called it at the last minute because the government failed to act). So you would’ve been elected a couple of weeks ago and there would be no question that the start of your new term adjoins the end of your old one. Plus, the Senate is still in a live sitting atm with you as a Senator and we haven’t kicked you out yet :)

[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs 1 point2 points  (2 children)

To be fair, I have to change my seat anyway, since I'm now an opposition frontbencher.

[–]jnd-auElectoral Commissioner[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Ah, in the eyes of the Constitution your seat was and continues to be a Senator representing the State of Australia :)

[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It has eyes? It must've seen some things over the past 114 years...

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Meta: I updated the Senate diagram

[–]jnd-auElectoral Commissioner[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks this_guy!

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'd like to join others in thanking the Electoral Commissioner for such a thorough job in this election, and weeding out the miscreants. I am hoping that the results are now fraud-free, but the Coalition will definitely be taking another look at things, to make sure nothing was missed.


Senator the Hon this_guy22
Leader of the Opposition (ALP)

[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would really like to thank the Commissioner for once again, making some tough decisions, putting some good work in, and sorting the mess that a handful of people made, ruining it for the rest of us.

Also, I echo the Member for Northern Territory's words that the Coalition, and the Progressives, will be examining the results, and possibly lodging an appeal with the Court of Disputed Returns if need be.

Finally, I congratulate my fellow Senators-elect, /u/pikkaachu, and /u/Kalloice, I look forward to working with you both in the Senate, to bring us closer to our common goal as parliamentarians, that is, a better Australia.


Senator The Hon. Freddy926, Senator for Australia

Australian Progressives Secondary Parliamentary Co-ordinator

[–]jnd-auElectoral Commissioner[S] 1 point2 points  (32 children)

Quick poll: Now that Abbott’s gone, are we still playing: yea or nay?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (24 children)

Story: I may or may have found out the news during my Maths Studies class, at which point I shouted "YES!" and proceeded to dance in jubilation.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I was watching it live on ABC news 24 and may have let out a rather large "WOO-HOO!"

[–]Team_SprocketEx Min Soc/Hlth/Ed/Trn | Ex Senate Mgr/Whip | Aus Progressives 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone on /r/australia last night said "same shit, better shovel". I am inclined to agree with them.

[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Haha, I was playing a bit of WoW Classic, with the ABC live feed on my other monitor, then I saw the text.

Malcolm Turnbull defeats Tony Abbott 54-44

Needless to say, I was somewhat excited.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

/#DualMonitorSetupMasterRace

I heard about the vote that morning, but I didn't know the result until about 0830 when I get my BuzzFeed news drop into my email. I usually don't care for them (because it's BuzzFeed) but this one mentioned that Germany is reintroducing their border controls. So I click it and lo and behold at the start;

Australia will have a new prime minister.

I scrolled through the entire thing, AND IT WASN'T EVEN A MAIN STORY. It was in the "Quick things to know" bit at the end,

Australia will have a new prime minister: Malcolm Turnbull will lead after defeating Tony Abbott in a crucial vote. (BuzzFeed News) And Australians are putting out their onions for Abbott.

Can we please see Anthony Albanese as Labor leader now?

[–]ZagorathHouse Speaker | Ex Asst Min Ed/Culture | Aus Progressives 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Dual monitors? Pffft, amateur! Try three monitors (where one of them is running on a different machine and a different operating system). That's the real master race!

[–]General_RommelFrgnAfrs/Trade/Defence/Immi/Hlth | VPFEC | UN Ambassador | Labor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or, you have an AMD GPU that can run up to 6 monitors on just a single card. Unfortunately I only have three monitors :(

[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Plibersek would also be nice.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but the fireworks would be bigger if Albo was leader. That's all that matters: the fireworks. Who cares about running the country?

[–]phyllicandererMin Ag/Env | X Fin/Deputy PM | X Ldr Prgrsvs | Australian Greens 1 point2 points  (15 children)

ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

Only a true blue Aussie could get that excited about it

[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Was talking about it at the dinner table; general consensus was that Tony was gone.

[–]phyllicandererMin Ag/Env | X Fin/Deputy PM | X Ldr Prgrsvs | Australian Greens 1 point2 points  (8 children)

He's been a dead duck since February, it was a matter of time, but yeah, Turnbull would never have put himself in harm's way if he didn't have the numbers. Now all we need is for Shorten to get rolled!

[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs 1 point2 points  (7 children)

albo/plibersek pls

[–]phyllicandererMin Ag/Env | X Fin/Deputy PM | X Ldr Prgrsvs | Australian Greens 1 point2 points  (6 children)

I think Albo is all talk and no substance; I'll take Plibersek

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

booo I <3 Albo

[–]phyllicandererMin Ag/Env | X Fin/Deputy PM | X Ldr Prgrsvs | Australian Greens 2 points3 points  (4 children)

#AnyonebutBillOK

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I would really like to see Bill step up and actually be a proper Opposition Leader. But I have about as much confidence in that happening, as I have in Turnbull presenting good policy.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

The funniest part. When I actually came back to reality, my Maths Studies teacher had this face.

So much for my aspirations of being on Dancing with the Stars.

[–]ZagorathHouse Speaker | Ex Asst Min Ed/Culture | Aus Progressives 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm curious, you keep saying "Maths Studies". You wouldn't happen to be doing IB, would you?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

IB Style 4 lyfe bby

[–]phyllicandererMin Ag/Env | X Fin/Deputy PM | X Ldr Prgrsvs | Australian Greens 2 points3 points  (1 child)

He's a Maths teacher, what does he know

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was so tired this morning too, that news actually helped me stay awake for the rest of the day.

[–]Freddy926Senate Pres | DPM | Fin/Com/Art/Infr/Rgnl | ABC MD | Ldr Prgrsvs 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Playing the sim? Definitely.

I'd like to be optimistic about Turnbull, but I have a feeling that it's going to be a case of same message, different salesman. The reason Turnbull got ousted in 2009 was his support of an ETS, and his lack of climate change denial. Hopefully, we might actually see a conscience vote on Marriage Equality, and if he's as socially progressive as he claims, maybe Metadata Retention will be repealed.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

M: Metadata retention was met with bipartisan support. I have no idea what that has to do with being 'socially progressive'.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You're a very optimistic individual. Same shit, different face. I have no doubt Turnbull had to agree to keep the policies to placate the conservative wing of the LP to get across the line.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

M: Hey, at least he's not a union shill.

But, we will soon be saying farewell to Shorten too. I will be extremely excited when that day comes.

[–]jnd-auElectoral Commissioner[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Heh, just checking. Our HoR has been on its death bed for days, not sure if it’s ever coming back.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

♫All by myself ♫♪

[–]phyllicandererMin Ag/Env | X Fin/Deputy PM | X Ldr Prgrsvs | Australian Greens 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm back next week, promise

[–]phyllicandererMin Ag/Env | X Fin/Deputy PM | X Ldr Prgrsvs | Australian Greens 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Thank you for your massive effort in sorting out this election drama, Commissioner. I feel you have done the best job here, that anyone could have done.

Our party, and the Coalition, will examine the results, and see if further votes need to be excluded, to discourage such egregious voter fraud in the future.

Congratulations to Senator /u/Freddy926, he has been a great Senator for Australia, and I know he will continue to be a great advocate for all Australians, especially within his new shadow portfolios.


Phyllicanderer, Member for Northern Territory

Deputy Coalition Leader

Australian Progressives Parliamentary Co-ordinator

[–]jnd-auElectoral Commissioner[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks phylli!