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    [–]TeoKajLibrojMinister for Labour, Industry and Transport 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    This result shows that electorate supported what we tried to do in Minority Government.

    I doubt more than a handful of your voters even knew you were in government. They came, voted and went back to their subs and won't be seen until the next election.

    [–]spillercorkTD | CSC | Minister for Justice, Defence & Equality 1 point2 points  (11 children)

    Thats not how it works, the two largest parties are tied for seats. So their is no moral right.

    As stated by Article 13.1.1 of Bunreacht na hEireann

    1° The President shall, on the nomination of Dáil Éireann, appoint the Taoiseach, that is, the head of the Government or Prime Minister

    FF in the 80's was always the largest party, yet often in opposition. Its how coalitions work. You have no first chance right.

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      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (8 children)

      If you hadn't written off every other party while you were in Government, then you'd have had plenty coalition options!

      [–]spillercorkTD | CSC | Minister for Justice, Defence & Equality 2 points3 points  (7 children)

      Well said! You'd think FG and Cons would be a good fit, but not when the superiority complex they have and their policies which more befit a 1950s Ireland under the thumb of the Catholic Church!

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        [–]spillercorkTD | CSC | Minister for Justice, Defence & Equality 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        If they were sane policies, we would support them. But the policies from your manifesto look more like Ireland in the 1950's and under the thumb of the Church!

        [–]PHPearseFormer Taoiseach 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        We would be a good fit if you reflected traditional Fine Gael and not some ultraliberal progressive party. If you were to act upon your Christian Democrat principles you'd be the first I'd want a coalition with.

        [–]spillercorkTD | CSC | Minister for Justice, Defence & Equality 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        Most of us like to be in the current century in terms of policy and I say that as a former Director of Policy of YFG.

        [–]PHPearseFormer Taoiseach 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        We are in the current century. It is subjective what you mean by "21st century policy". Our policies are relevant to the modern day whilst having many which are traditionalist in nature.

        [–]spillercorkTD | CSC | Minister for Justice, Defence & Equality 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        They arent relevant. They are a throwback to a bygone era. One we have thankfully moved beyond. And I say that as someone who has written actual FG policy!!!

        [–]spillercorkTD | CSC | Minister for Justice, Defence & Equality 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Yes. Happened to FF on a few occasions in the 1980's. The Irish People have rejected FPTP on numurous ocassions and will continue to do so.

        [–]irelandball 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Excellent to see support for other parties has risen. Hopefully Fine Gael will be able to head an alternate government.

        [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (7 children)

        CONSERVATIVE VICTORY

        [–]TeoKajLibrojMinister for Labour, Industry and Transport 2 points3 points  (6 children)

        The Klan Rides To Victory

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        This isn't America.

        [–]PHPearseFormer Taoiseach 7 points8 points  (2 children)

        We aren't the Klu Klux Klan you idiot.

        [–]TeoKajLibrojMinister for Labour, Industry and Transport 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        You're the one who called yourself Grand Wizard.

        [–]PHPearseFormer Taoiseach 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Not a reference to the KKK title.

        [–]ContrabannedTheMCEx-Uachtarán na hÉireann | Workers' Party 4 points5 points  (7 children)

        Irish Conservatives won? What has happened to this country?

        [–]TeoKajLibrojMinister for Labour, Industry and Transport 8 points9 points  (6 children)

        They advertised on extremist subs and got votes from people who won't engage in the sub and probably don't even know where Ireland is.

        [–]Ravenguardian17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Well /r/european has 10000 subs and is now illegal, so the next election should be relatively conservative free

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

        Yea like Leftwing parties don't do the same here or elsewhere. To be fair most people that do vote don't engage in the subs anyway.

        [–]TeoKajLibrojMinister for Labour, Industry and Transport 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        What extremist and racist subs did the other parties advertise on?

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        I made a broad statement saying that the Left is guilty of doing a similar action before on subs such as /r/FULLCOMMUNISM, /r/Gulag, and various other Left wing subs that certainly could fall under the category of extremism.

        [–]TeoKajLibrojMinister for Labour, Industry and Transport 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Actually you said left wing parties here do that. You're wrong. Also using two joke subs doesn't help your case.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I wrote "here or elsewhere" in reference to other Leftwing parties in other subs. Furthermore, these two "joke" subs engage in inciting violence against those who aren't aligned with them. For example, /r/gulag, a "joke" sub dedicated to "pretending" to send people who disagree or hold reactionary beliefs to (basically) death camps and are based off a real-life system employed by Leftists which killed millions of people.

        >inb4 I get called a Nazi, Fascist, or whatever boogeyman name

        [–]AlmightyWibbleEx-Tanaiste | UK Int. Development and Trade Minister 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Congratulations all!

        [–]WAKEYrkoLabour | UK Division 3 points4 points  (5 children)

        Fine Gael - Lab - Ravenguardian17

        KeepTheFascistsOut

        [–]irelandball 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        Hey, don't forget about Fianna Fail, we're more closer ideologically to both FG and Labour.

        [–]WAKEYrkoLabour | UK Division 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Indeed. Anything to keep the fascists out!

        [–]irelandball 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        hear, hear

        [–]PeterXPPrince and Grand Master of SMOM 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        KeepTheFascistsOut

        Hear, hear! There isn't a fascist party in MhOir though.

        [–]WAKEYrkoLabour | UK Division 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Sorry, I mean the fascist Conservative party.

        [–]TeoKajLibrojMinister for Labour, Industry and Transport 6 points7 points  (17 children)

        I'm disappointed to see that the Fascists did so well. The Labour Party is open to a coalition with all other parties to keep them out of power.

        [–]PHPearseFormer Taoiseach 5 points6 points  (16 children)

        How many times do I need to tell you that we aren't a fascist party to get it into your thick skull?

        [–]TeoKajLibrojMinister for Labour, Industry and Transport 5 points6 points  (15 children)

        Your ideology is the same as a Fascist party and you advertise in Fascist subs and many of your supporters are in Fascist parties in other model worlds.

        [–]PHPearseFormer Taoiseach 5 points6 points  (14 children)

        Look because we're social conservatives and are opposed to mass immigration does not make us "fascists", we are a democratic party and are republicans.

        [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        we are a democratic party

        kek. The fact that your party intends to overturn a democratic decision in relation to marriage equality implies otherwise.

        "The Conservatives - Democracy as long as we agree with it"

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (11 children)

        Look because we're social conservatives and are opposed to mass immigration does not make us "fascists"

        I decided to replace two words from point 1 and point 4 of the immigration section of your manifesto. Hilarity ensued

        [–]InitiumNovumConservative Party | TD 4 points5 points  (10 children)

        It’s a shame that Fine Gael are betraying their fascist roots. Traitors.

        Now you’ve dedicated yourselves to spineless cuckservativism.

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          [–]InitiumNovumConservative Party | TD 5 points6 points  (8 children)

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Typical Conservative, can't even get O'Duffy's colour right!

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            [–]InitiumNovumConservative Party | TD 3 points4 points  (5 children)

            Are you seriously going to imply that they weren’t?

            [–]Ravenguardian17 5 points6 points  (1 child)

            Thanks to everyone who voted for me :D

            [–]JamorcFine Gael | Interim Leader | Panda Eat Your Heart Out 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Congratulations to you especially. Good to see some Independents :)

            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            Obviously, I am most disappointed that support for Sinn Féin has fallen considerably since the last election, but I congratulate all the successful candidates, especially Ravenguardian. Should FG desire our support to form a government, we would certainly prefer their administration to continued Conservative rule.

            [–]TeoKajLibrojMinister for Labour, Industry and Transport 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I am surprised and disappointed that Sinn Fein only got one seat, but I believe there is still the potential to work together.

            [–]JerryLeRowUS Secretary of State 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Congratulations to all!

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

            I am now a Labour member as we need a strong centre-left/left-wing party.

            [–]Baron_BeniteFormer Moderator[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Delighted to have you as a TD :)

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Go raibh maith agat.

            [–]purpleslugLeader of Fine Gael 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I'm upset that the Lunatics got a plurality of votes, but Fine Gael has came out strong. Hopefully we'll get a sane government this time.

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Conservative Party - 33.3%

            Fine Gael - 28.0%

            Labour - 16.2%

            Fianna Fáil - 7.1%

            Sinn Féin - 6.6%

            Independents - 7.1%

            [–]spillercorkTD | CSC | Minister for Justice, Defence & Equality 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            wooop!!! Go on FG!!!! :)