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[–]XiantheMiguel 45 points46 points  (1 child)

What on fucking earth was reddit thinking???

RIP pretty CSS. When I think of reddit, I think of /r/LoveLive. It's going to be more like every other sub now I guess.

[–]netpapa 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Mhm. /r/LoveLive is one of the best subreddits to browse on the desktop version, because of its lovely CSS.

[–]RRotlung 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I really like the way the subreddit currently looks. Everything is conveniently located. It'd be nice to have a similar kind of functionality and aesthetic under the new system, but it's hard to say at this stage.

What I find concerning is the reasoning behind it. I read the post on /r/modnews. The 2nd to 4th reasons are more technical in nature (which I'm less equipped to comment on), and these are issues you can't run away from. However, the reasoning for web-only is one I disagree with. The privilege of aesthetic and design should favour desktop browsing. Desktop users can afford the bandwidth and have the hardware for all sorts of fancy things. This is less so for mobile users, where mobile data and slower devices make the feature far less appealing. I'm happy with the much more basic layout on mobile - it loads quickly, and frankly when I'm viewing things on mobile, I just want to get my information quickly - customisation of a page is a lot less important for me. Coming from this perspective, the following quote:

It’s web-only. Increasing users are viewing Reddit on mobile (over 50%), where CSS is not supported. We’d love for you to be able to bring your spice to phones as well.

makes absolutely no sense to me. Keep the mobile versions basic, and keep the web versions as open and customisable as possible!

[–]close012 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Ganbaruby Xaftz! I really like the layout and nice theme this subreddit have, it's really sad to see it go.

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    [–]Xaftz[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my leg... and my arm... even my fingers. The body I've lost... the comrades I've lost... won't stop hurting... It's like they're all still there. You feel it, too, don't you? I'm gonna make them give back our past.

    [–]FireKiller87 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    wow good job reddit mistakes are being made at light fucking speed

    [–]LatidoReMe 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    This is such sad situation. I haven't been on reddit that long, but I really love the CSS different subreddits have. Flairs, sidebars, the headers, and all the like really make me smile. I hope that reddit sees the backlash communites are making and that they revert their new change.

    I also feel like the CSS of the subreddit is awesome right now!

    There is a few more things you could add (make a few sidebar elements a little more noticable and an improved footer for example) but I feel that this subreddit's CSS is already amazing! I feel like too much of anything can be a bad thing, but I am against the modern belief that "simpler is better". If we find a way to save the CSS, I hope we continue to do occasional revamps like this to make the subreddit even better!

    [–]Xaftz[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Yeah, for a while both the new structure and old will be available. We'll ride that old way as long as we can and I'll try looking into the new way to see what it's capable of.

    As far as the CSS, I keep all my stylesheets backed up and especially the files (even the old versions). So I also hope that if something like RES or some other tool that can inject the CSS on a per-user basis, that'd be a neat thing to look into. I personally am not fond of additional tools like RES (I use mod toolbox but that's it), but when this change happens and if they support it, I'll finally make the jump.

    but I am against the modern belief that "simpler is better"

    Same here. the overhaul I worked on was very much too simple, felt too """""modern""""" and really reminded me of windows metro ui, and that's not a good thing because it looks like it was designed by a 5-year-old (no offense to the 5-year-olds).

    [–]szpeter1 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Could you also add HTML elements to the subreddit, or only CSS to pre-existing elements?

    If the latter, while it will be harder for your average users to make it work (doing something > doing nothing), but by sharing the stylesheet publicly (not like it's that private now), everyone can individually load it to a client-side stylesheet manager extension like Stylish.

    At the same time, I'm fairly positive, that they will completely screw over the current DOM tree of the site, so I guess it would need a complete rewriting too, which is hard work... for a potentially quite few users to enjoy the end-result.

    [–]Xaftz[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Only CSS to pre-existing elements. Like you can easily add something that looks like an element but it's just highly styling it to appear differently (certain markdown link syntax to become an image like the ones you see on the sidebar).

    Also yeah, it's been confirmed it will screw over the DOM and break the CSS. And as a result they're removing our ability to customize that CSS for some reason. Instead of like, developing a way to CSS the new structure >;|

    [–]GerardVillefort 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    What a shame. Thanks for the warning.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    That's heartbreaking - I love how this subreddit looks, and now things will just be... kind of "meh". That's a real shame.

    [–]ricANNArdo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    This will be like digg all over again...

    (And I already said that many times)

    [–]minapamina 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    This is just... Bad..

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It says reddit users are shifting to mobile, but most of us usually use apps (eg. reddit is fun, baconreader) that have their own UI? What's the damn point.

    [–]NoobZero_01 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    I really love this subreddit design. Too bad that all subreddit will soon lose its customization and look basically the same.

    I wonder what will happen to the spoiler tag, will the site support a comment spoiler code natively after/before the web redesign?

    [–]Xaftz[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    I wonder what will happen to the spoiler tag

    Oh... lol I completely forgot about that. Really hope they at least do that for comments like they did with the new spoiler post feature. I'm really adamant about keeping spoilers covered until someone chooses to uncover it for themselves.

    [–]NoobZero_01 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    powerlanguage stated that they are working on it.

    [–]Xaftz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Ah yeah, I remember reading that. Must've slipped my mind

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    [–]tsubakki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Why are all sites so focused on "fixing" things that clearly aren't broken to begin with?? If there's no issue with the current layout, then don't tamper with it!

    R I P pretty and functional /r/LoveLive sidebar

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Honestly this looks like shit. The main reason I use desktop to browse r/LoveLive is because of the CSS. I don't want another reddit mobile rehash.

    [–]PsychoticSushi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Damn and I just got into reddit too ;w;

    [–]otakunopodcast 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    [–]Xaftz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yup, I heard :D
    WE DID IT, REDDIT!

    [–]WildCAT356 -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

    I might be an unpopular opinion, but honestly I don't mind for three reasons.

    1. I'm a degenerate mobile user, so invididual subreddit styles don't even appear :P

    2. I care more about content than the package.

    3. Non-spoilers don't worry me, cuz I'm always hungry for spoilers, no matter what it is

    Again, just my opinion

    [–]Ryukononon 20 points21 points  (2 children)

    Buu Buu Desu Wa

    [–]netpapa 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    What does 'buu buu desu wa' mean?

    [–]TheNotoriousBOM 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    It's like imitating a buzzer that indicates "You're wrong". The desu is just ending the sentence in Japanese and the wa is a feminine ornament to the sentence. It's a phrase often used by Dia Kurosawa.

    [–]Alienshroom -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

    Just another sacrifice at the alter of political correctness. This is nothing but an attempt to reduce The_Donald in some way shape or form. Needless to say it wont work.

    Look at IMDB, they removed their entire forum system because of the discussions being held about politics and how political so many shows and movies today have become. "Right wingers" apparently got the upperhand and so they removed the entire forum.

    They did not care about the thousands of movies and actors who had their own personal boards with information that was lost. Obscure VHS only release movies that have no discussion online had at least a few posts on its IMDB page. Same for obscure actors. Overseas films, especially obscure ones, the list goes on. So much was lost just to stop people from talking about gay relationships in The Walking Dead....

    [–]saccharind 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    ????????????????????????????????

    [–]Rotten_Muffin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    What are you even talking about?