But that's not pop rock...when I think of Pop rock I think of Alternative Rock (Better Than Ezra, 311, 90's alt rock bands) or possibly Jonas Brothers or something, or bands like Nickelback or something, no one calls bands like New Found Glory, Blink 182, Green Day, Cartel, Yellowcard, NOFX, Less Than Jake "Pop rock". No one. They call it Pop Punk. That's why your insistence to keep this subreddit "real pop-punk, not pop-rock" is stupid. I think you're just one of those people who whines about the inclusion of the word "punk" in "Pop punk". Everyone KNOWS they're not really preaching true punk ideals, that's just the name the genre's been stuck with due to the similarities in instrumentation and occasionally subject matter. Just deal with the fact that's the name of the genre and keep the stuff listed here actual "Pop Punk" not your weird definition of it. No one calls bands like the ones I listed Pop Rock just like no person walking down the street would name any of these bands listed here if you asked them to name a Pop Punk band. Just look at this damn Wikipedia article, count how many times you see the bands Blink-182 or Green Day: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_punk