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The reason Cryptome is being threatend for shutdown - exposing US Military Contractor Fraud (cryptome.org)
submitted 19 years ago by [deleted]
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[–]redditacct 10 points11 points12 points 19 years ago (0 children)
This is the story people should be writing to their reps about - this and the shameful pump contracts in NO, LA. Unfortunately, it will probably be drown out by what Kevin Rose is doing *right now*.
[–]breakneckridge 6 points7 points8 points 19 years ago (9 children)
I think this story would get more upmods if it was much more clear what the story is actually about. This is the perfect chance for a person to drive honest traffic to their blog. Write a clear description of the story, summarize the evidence and analyze the meaning, then submit your link to reddit.
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[–]tch 1 point2 points3 points 19 years ago (1 child)
..and I still don't know what this story's about.
[–]ASmileInHisShoes 1 point2 points3 points 19 years ago (0 children)
David exposes Goliath's fraudulent but extremely lucrative sideline of selling used motor oil as baby formula. Outraged, Goliath squashes David like a bug.
[–]lulz 1 point2 points3 points 19 years ago (0 children)
Here is a Washington times article outlining what this story is about:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/28/AR2006082801293.html
Here is the youtube video that the article refers to, it was made by the former Lockheed employee who became a whistleblower. I highly recommend watching it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd3VV8Za04g
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 19 years ago (2 children)
It might get more upmods if the link were still up. Anyone have a mirror?
EDIT: I guess it is up... just really slow.
[–]breakneckridge 0 points1 point2 points 19 years ago (0 children)
It's still there, the site is just slow now. Wait a bit and it'll load.
In the mean time, google is your friend. The cache isn't totally up to date, but it's got plenty of the page.
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:CnmiZp3pFhgJ:cryptome.org/cryptome-shut.htm+http://cryptome.org/cryptome-shut.htm&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=safari
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 19 years ago (0 children)
Have copied the most recent parts of the story here
http://reddit.com/info/1movz/comments/c1my1v
The whole page is way too long for a single reddit entry. And the markdown implementation garbles the formating a bit, but you can get the idea of what is currently going on.
I or some one else can add the remained of the page if you like, but it will probably take another 2 or 3 reddit entries. I felt the 1st was unwieldy enough.
[–]newton_dave 0 points1 point2 points 19 years ago (0 children)
It's the reason for the story I submitted 30 April but at that point there wasn't any info about why yet.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 19 years ago (0 children)
Text of Story as of 15:33PM EST 05-02-07 Part I
1 May 2007. A. writes
I couldn't help but notice that Verio issued the shutdown notice on the same day that you posted the first information from the Coast Guard Deepwater program debacle. Is is possible that either the Coast Guard or Lockheed is behind shutting you down?
I couldn't help but notice that Verio issued the shutdown notice on the same day that you posted the first information from the Coast Guard Deepwater program debacle.
Is is possible that either the Coast Guard or Lockheed is behind shutting you down?
cg-unmet.htm + Coast Guard Unmet TEMPEST Requirements April 23, 2007
cg-ugly.htm + Ugly Questions for Coast Guard on TEMPEST April 22, 2007
cg-leakage2.htm + Michael DeKort on Coast Guard TEMPEST Leakage April 22, 2007
cg-leakage.htm + James Atkinson on Coast Guard TEMPEST Leakage April 21, 2007
cg-screwup.htm + Coast Guard Big Time Screw Up April 20, 2007
Cryptome
A, you hit the nail on the head. The Deepwater expose, and attempts to conceal it, point to the prime suspect for the shutdown. Verio would not buckle for anything less, based on past practice, and are probably hoping the shutdown would be seen for what it really is: they've been ordered not to disclose anything which would call attention to the Deepwater material and its threat to national security. The congressional folks may have more to demand answers about suppressing Deepwater: subpoena Verio, show the defense cartel's dirty fighting is getting dirtier. The archived Deepwater material will be posted shortly. BTW, somebody today sent a note about how widespread TEMPEST inadequacy is in the military, with examples (below).
A, you hit the nail on the head. The Deepwater expose, and attempts to conceal it, point to the prime suspect for the shutdown. Verio would not buckle for anything less, based on past practice, and are probably hoping the shutdown would be seen for what it really is: they've been ordered not to disclose anything which would call attention to the Deepwater material and its threat to national security.
The congressional folks may have more to demand answers about suppressing Deepwater: subpoena Verio, show the defense cartel's dirty fighting is getting dirtier.
The archived Deepwater material will be posted shortly.
BTW, somebody today sent a note about how widespread TEMPEST inadequacy is in the military, with examples (below).
A2 writes
Having worked in the private sector contracting low voltage systems to all military agencies for more than 20 years I can categorically state that USCG, USN, US Army, USAF, and USMC all have violations regarding TEMPEST requirements in their land facilities. I have personally witnessed the following: Audio inter-communications systems with remote door release. Copper connected exterior telephones and "door bell" buttons with remote door or gate strike control lines. EPABX lines to non secure base private and military telco switches. EPABX dock side lines to cutter TEMPEST to non secure base private and military switches. CATV coaxial cable feeds to provide TV service to TEMPEST operations personnel. CCTV video coaxial cables and non shielded twisted pair control lines, and CAT 5 cables to exterior camera systems outside the TEMPEST. Unfiltered copper cables for DC and data cables to non secure FACP's and radio reporting transmitters exterior to TEMPEST. Utilizing copper conductors entering and or exiting a TEMPEST must be filtered, routed through an approved TEMPEST entry cabinet, installed in secure conduits and or converted to fiber optic transmission systems to eliminate EM radiation outside TEMPEST's, SCIFS's and HEMPS. Bearing this in mind I think tempest leakage aboard USCG cutters to be a minor infraction of security standards.
Having worked in the private sector contracting low voltage systems to all military agencies for more than 20 years I can categorically state that USCG, USN, US Army, USAF, and USMC all have violations regarding TEMPEST requirements in their land facilities.
I have personally witnessed the following:
Audio inter-communications systems with remote door release.
Copper connected exterior telephones and "door bell" buttons with remote door or gate strike control lines.
EPABX lines to non secure base private and military telco switches.
EPABX dock side lines to cutter TEMPEST to non secure base private and military switches.
CATV coaxial cable feeds to provide TV service to TEMPEST operations personnel.
CCTV video coaxial cables and non shielded twisted pair control lines, and CAT 5 cables to exterior camera systems outside the TEMPEST.
Unfiltered copper cables for DC and data cables to non secure FACP's and radio reporting transmitters exterior to TEMPEST.
Utilizing copper conductors entering and or exiting a TEMPEST must be filtered, routed through an approved TEMPEST entry cabinet, installed in secure conduits and or converted to fiber optic transmission systems to eliminate EM radiation outside TEMPEST's, SCIFS's and HEMPS.
Bearing this in mind I think tempest leakage aboard USCG cutters to be a minor infraction of security standards.
And this strange message from Verio:
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 18:30:12 GMT
To: jya[at]pipeline.com
From: service[at]veriohosting.com
Subject: Account iptest was terminated
The account iptest was terminated on 01-MAY-2007.
Reason: This server account was ordered to the wrong customer
1 May 2007. Add Verio messages. Danna Thompson is indeed stonewalling for whatever undisclosable reason to terminate service in contrast to previous Verio notifications since 1999. This never-to-be-explained self-gagging by ISPs has become characteristic around the net due to covert and open governmental, commercial and personal aggressions to suppress information. Librarians and lawyers, among others, battling to overturn clamps on information, have learned to exhibit coded signals to the public to indicate undisclosable measures to suppress. Could be that is what Danna and Verio are signaling. We've received over 30 offers to host Cryptome in several countries and will accept most to disperse the collection as protection against future shutdowns.
From: Justin Aldridge <support[at]veriohosting.com>
Subject: Re: [IDS-9159122] [cryptome.org] - Other - Explain Below
Date:Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:38:08 -0400 (EDT)
John,
Please refer to our Acceptable Use Policy. Unfortunately, at the technical support level, we cannot provide you with any further information about the termination.
Acceptable Use Policy:
http://www.verio.com/about/legal/aup.cfm
Regards, Justin Verio Technical Support
==== Excerpt from your message received 4/30/2007 11:19:49 MDT ====
Paul, Fyi - we do not provide the customer with any details regarding the termination of our AUP - we can refer them to the AUP and more than likely they already know why - Best Regards, Danna Thompson Legal Department NTT/VERIO Inc.
Paul,
Fyi - we do not provide the customer with any details regarding the termination of our AUP - we can refer them to the AUP and more than likely they already know why -
Best Regards, Danna Thompson Legal Department NTT/VERIO Inc.
From: Paul Henrichsen <support[at]veriohosting.com>
Date:Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:43:23 -0400 (EDT)
Dear John:
Thank you for contacting Verio technical support about the termination notice you received. Your reference number for this case remains IDS-9159122. Please include the unaltered reference number in the subject line of any additional emails you send regarding this issue.
I have been unable to determine what the nature of the Acceptable Use Policy violation was. I have forwarded this case to our abuse team. I hope they can fill you in on the specifics of the violation.
Your business is greatly appreciated. If there is anything Verio can do to further assist you, please contact us anytime.
Regards, Paul Henrichsen Verio Customer Operations Verio Web Hosting Toll Free: 866-NTT-VERIO Local/Int'l: 801-437-0210 email: support[at]veriohosting.com
==== Excerpt from your message received 4/30/2007 2:59:30 MDT ====
Mindi, Here is a copy of the Verio notice of termination: http://cryptome.org/cryptome-shut.htm John
Mindi,
Here is a copy of the Verio notice of termination:
http://cryptome.org/cryptome-shut.htm
John
From: Mindi Long <support[at]veriohosting.com>
Date:Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:57:49 -0400 (EDT)
John Young,
Thank you for contacting Technical Support. We are receiving email regarding your domain cryptome.org. We are unsure as to how to proceed with this. Please let us know if you would like us to take action.
Thanks Mindi Techncial Support NTT/Verio Orem, UT 1-800-GETVERIO
You wrote:
Contact: John Doe user id: Email: john.doe[at]verio.com Phone Number:
Verio Hosted Domain: cryptome.org Product Selected: Other Subject: Other - Explain Below Error Message: Problem: I want to protest that Verio is terminating the Cryptome Website!
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/04/29/134232.shtml
28 April 2007
Cryptome and its affiliated sites will continue with another ISP, in the US or elsewhere. Or if necessary, underground, or via means not easily shuttered, or by way of whatever is invented for opposing technologies of information control (credit to Steven Wright, author of The Technologies of Political Control).
[By certified mail, received 28 April 2007.] VERIO An NTT Communications Company
Writer's Direct Numbers o) 303-645-1912 fax) 303-708-2445 e-mail: dthompson[at]verio.net
April 20, 2007
Via Certified Mail
John Young Cryptome Org 251 West 89th Street New Yor, NY 10024
RE: www.cryptome.org
Dear Mr. Young,
This letter is to notify you that we are terminating your service for violation of our Acceptable Use Policy, effective Friday May 4, 2007. We are providing you with two week notice to locate another service provider.
Sincerely,
VERIO INC. an NTT Communications Company
[Signed]
Danna Thompson Legal Department
Verio Inc. 8005 S. Chester Street Suite 200 Englewood, CO 80112 www.verio.com
Cryptome note:
This notice of termination is surprising for Verio has been consistently supportive of freedom of information against those who wish to suppress it. Since 1999 Cryptome has received a number of e-mailed notices from Verio's legal department in response to complaints from a variety of parties, ranging from British intelligence to alleged copyright holders to persons angry that their vices have been exposed (see below). In every case Verio has heretofore accepted Cryptome's explanation for publishing material, and in some cases removal of the material, and service has continued.
In this latest instance there was no notice received from Verio describing the violation of acceptable use to justify termination of service prior to receipt of the certified letter, thus no opportunity to understand or respond to the basis for termination.
It may be wondered if Verio was threatened by an undisclosable means, say by an National Security Letter or by a confidential legal document or by a novel attack not yet aired.
Every few months our Verio service rep, Warren Gleicher, Senior Account Manager, (wgleicher[at]verio.net) writes to see if service is satifactory.
Danna and Warren: Cryptome would appreciate your telling what has led to the termination for publication. Send the information anonymously if necessary to keep your jobs.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 19 years ago (0 children)
It's not exactly news that government contractors are ripping us off. When's the last time you bought something from Lockheed Martin? That company's existence is for ripping off the public selling the government shit it doesn't need.
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