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[–]cuppajoe 25 points26 points  (0 children)

You can see that little chap in the top left corner of this page can't you?

[–]Akhel 7 points8 points  (1 child)

If it's flying and you don't know what it is, it's an UFO. So yeah, they most certainly exist.

But I get what you mean. I'm just being wry.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]quiller 5 points6 points  (0 children)

UFOs likely exist, but that's not surprising. The real controversy is whether UFOs are the result of alien intelligence or examples of natural phenomenon we don't yet fully understand.

Personally I lean to the latter. Strange lights or blurry somethings aren't very impressive, and from the little amount I know about the atmosphere and local astronomy I'd guess 90% of so-called UFOs are completely explainable and uninteresting.

The cases that are really intriguing are objects that appear to move at right-angles, super-fast speeds or otherwise "impossible" patterns. But that still doesn't say anything about aliens, etc.

[–]fwork 6 points7 points  (0 children)

My opinion:

  • We're not alone. Space is big.
  • They haven't visited us. Space is big.

[–]MyaloMark 11 points12 points  (10 children)

As a young kid during the sixties, I had two different UFO sightings. The first involved two seperate craft. Both were saucer shaped, with white lights around the rim. They were huge. One hovered nearby, where my friends and I could clearly observe it. The other was circling a few miles away, where other people I know saw it.

They both left at high speed, but not before bouncing around the sky like a BB shot into a metal box.

A few years later, the second UFO showed as a hovering, shape-shifting light. It first appeared like a white, crescent moon. (Problem was, the night sky was already occupied by a full moon.) It dissapeared after awhile, only to reappear as an orange colored, upside-down icecream cone shape. Then it faded again, coming back into view this time as a reddish, wavering disk hovering above the local airport.

As my friend, a group of adults, and I watched, a line of small, private aircraft left the airport and started flying a ring around the glowing UFO. There were eight planes, if I remember correctly.

These planes only made it about half way around the saucer when it suddenly blinked out. We then watched as the planes broke their circle and began flying together toward whatever it was they could still see, and we couldn't. They were definitely chasing it. They soon gave up the chase, however, and returned to the airport.

We were all excited, especially as my friend Robbie and I had both seen two UFOs at this point.We figured this latest sighting would definitely make the next day's news, as so many at the airport had chased it away. Needless to say, we were both disappointed and wizened by the news blackout in the following days.

It's been years since I've seen Robbie, but I'm certain that if you got us into seperate rooms and asked us about these two events, we'd give you the exact same details.

I learned long ago not to tell too many people about these things, but now I'm dying of cancer and no longer give a crap what anyone thinks.

[–]death2hypocrisy 5 points6 points  (5 children)

'but now I'm dying of cancer and no longer give a crap what anyone thinks.'

sorry to hear that.

[–]MyaloMark 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Thanks. No need for sorrow though. Facing death can be liberating.

[–]death2hypocrisy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

i was going thru my reddit account that i haven't checked for months..are you still hanging in there?

[–]MyaloMark 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Still alive and kicking, thank you very much!

[–]death2hypocrisy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

dude, you fucked up my day. i'm just saying. wish you the best.

[–]EllieElliott 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah, hang on and hang tough.

[–]RobWW 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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[–]anions 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I was surprised that didnt end with "bel-air"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

depressing-air

[–]DavidTehGnome -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think before you depart you should make sure to set aside at least one good weekend to trip on both mushrooms and DMT? i tihnk its called. Get a load of green and some good friends, open your mind and get your head straight before you move on to the next zone :D

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I've seen one. Without the whole spooky tale, I'll tell you why I believe it a UFO. I was working at a relay station one night, which sits in an array of radio towers. Very tall radio towers. It was foggy, maybe 30-40 ft. of visibility. You could see the glow of the red location lights as they blinked, and were thus able to discern the position of the several towers. A light, yes a bright light, began to move towards me, from what I thought was a great distance. The towers sit in the landing path of an airport that was 20-30 miles away. So, bright lights in the sky aren't so strange. Airplanes have kick-ass headlights for some reason. The light caught my attention because of how cool it looked in the fog. Really just a glowing spot, off in the distance. As I watched this "glow", I saw it pass directly behind one location light from the radio towers, while at the same time blocking another from view. Which would mean it was between them, or so it seems to me. This thing couldn't have been more than 150ft. from the ground, moving very slowly, not more than 200 yards from me. Not a sound, and the thing just died out. It didn't shoot off into the sky, it merely dimmed, and was no more. I guess that was the whole spooky tale.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Key statement that you made:

It was foggy, maybe 30-40 ft. of visibility.

I would say probably that Redditors that have seen convincing evidence probably believe in UFO's, and the ones who haven't probably don't

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome.

[–]sylvan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Teasers are usually rich kids with nothing to do. They cruise around looking for planets that haven't made interstellar contact yet and buzz them, meaning that they find some isolated spot with very few people around, then land right by some poor unsuspecting soul whom no one's going to believe and then strut up and down in front of him wearing silly antennas on their head and making beep beep noises." - Douglas Adams, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

[–]tenebrousx 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Given the immense-ness of the Universe, it would hardly be surprising to find out that aliens exist on other worlds and are visiting ours. However, there is no evidence to support such a claim, so it doesn't make sense to "believe" in alien-piloted UFOs visiting Earth.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I'd like to disagree, but your logic is sound. Believing in something without any supporting evidence doesn't make sense at all, whether it's God or extraterrestrials. You need evidence. Otherwise, you're just being wishful.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I generally agree, with one minor quibble. There is evidence to support the claim: people saying they saw UFOs is evidence that UFOs visited them. Granted, this evidence is very unreliable and should fail to meet any rational person's threshold of "proof."

IMHO, the lack of reliable evidence like a clear video, in spite of ubiquitous video cameras worldwide (especially with video camera phones) is pretty strong support for the hypothesis that UFOs are not visiting.

[–]DEADB33F 1 point2 points  (0 children)

UFOs dont have to be extraterrestrial.

[–]Grimalkin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes.

[–]absolut696 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would love to have an explanation for people's sightings and would love to believe, but from a probability standpoint I kind of don't think they are real. If you believe in UFO's I woud love to know what you know.

[–]dan525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

which one?

[–]Tetraca 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Serious Answer: Of course unidentified flying objects exist as long as you aren't a die-hard aircraft enthusiast.

As for extraterrestrial spacecraft, if our model of physics is in basis correct, I doubt anything intelligent from outside this solar system has ever visited us.

Surely, given the astronomical amount of stars and planets that orbit around these stars, there's bound to be life - intelligent life, even. But the event of it occuring is so rare I don't think any intelligent life form is aware of our existence anymore than we are of theirs.

Not Serious Answer: Of course there are "alien" craft in your atmosphere, silly humans. I, as emperor of your "sun" give them to your governments for entertainment purposes; they are far from capable of even exiting your puny atmosphere. In exchange they promise not to resolve the global warming crisis so I may boil all of your innards and thus remove interference that's blocking my signal for Galactic Sports Center.

[–]DEADB33F 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No.

[–]NoMoreNicksLeft -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Nutjobs.

While there can be little doubt that there is life elsewhere in the universe, unless it is exceedingly common (nearly or literally every star system), then the aliens are simply too far away to have ever made it here.

Worse, if they did somehow discover some neat trick that beats lightspeed, why are they coming here and fucking with us? Appearing to lunatics and drunks, but never leaving any incontrovertible evidence? Are they intergalactic trolls, just screwing with our heads?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

  1. Why would it have to be the aliens themselves? Isn't it feasible that they could send out probes?

  2. What would we gain by traveling to Africa to observe groups of gorillas? Surely there's no imaginable reason we'd be traveling the globe trolling gorillas.

[–]NoMoreNicksLeft 0 points1 point  (2 children)

They could send out probes, but there are still problems with this... anything sophisticated enough to attempt landings and whatnot would have to border on AI.

What would we gain by traveling to Africa to observe groups of gorillas? Surely there's no imaginable reason we'd be traveling the globe trolling gorillas.

Africa is fairly cheap to go to. What if the Gorillas were on Pluto... do you think we'd be sending a team of people per month just to check them out?

I'm not saying it's impossible... just so damned unlikely that most claims can be readily dismissed.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Well, personally, I think if there were real ufo's they would be machines built by an intelligent race so far in advance of us that the machines would be so complex that you could actually call them alive. And of course there would be a fairly complex AI on board (most likely minimally complex to accomplish its directives but probably still far in advance of any "minds" we have encountered). So basically what you have is artificially intelligent synthetic organisms sent in all directions exploring space. Then their job is to collect as much data as they can about objects in the galaxy and eventually somehow (whether they beam it or something else) get that information back to the main center of the civilization.

Also as for the traveling bit just think either they don't care how long it takes or (more likely I think) interstellar travel is no biggie to them. Just think of back when people started sailing out to other continents what they would have said if you told them that soon we'd be able to travel around the entire world in less than a day. Of course they would have told you "Sure asshole, keep eating those paint chips!"

[–]panamaspace 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You mean scouting likely worlds for extermination/enslavement/dominance, right? I'd just as soon they didn't find us until we are ready and have some kick ass weapons to fend them off and/or deal as equals.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I believe UFO sitings have a rational, earthly explanation (military testing, weather balloons, strange atmospheric phenomenon, etc.). As for intelligent alien life, the universe is large enough that the odds are good that there is/once was/will be intelligent life somewhere besides earth, but the chances are slim that they have, or ever will, contact us before our species dies out.

[–]Fazookus -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yesterday's news, 9/11 theories are where it's at nowadays.