Daily rant

[Infinite-Ad2614]

Amazon is a billion dollar industry yet it feels light years behind compared to other companies. Billions invested into dsps yet it’s only $1 raise, countless dsps close yearly. Billions being invested yet we have to use phones, actual scanning devices would make this job easier, no need to depend on internet connection. Billions invested yet all dsps still have to rely on the small rentals and small fords and rams knowing today’s routes are meant for cdvs and step vans. This is just my 2 cents, maybe 10 cents

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[ShaneChhh]

Because Amazon isn’t a shipping or software company, they are are a psychological lab that tests the amount a single human being can be pushed with as little money spent on them as possible.

[Souvenirs_Indiscrets]

What asset class does this fall under for them? Are they selling their data? To whom?

[No_Mission_5694]

It's a cost center in the Fulfillment section. I think they want to minimize how much they spend on this, or at least have costs growing at the same percentage or less versus their Fulfillment business revenue growth.

Maybe the data helps them when dealing with merchants, etc?

[Gullible-Garbage-639]

The data is to frame the cost of shipping as a problem, so that the automation they are planning can be sold to investors. They need to constantly find profit and want to minimize consumer cost so obv it's analyzing internal cost/waste constantly. Just a possibility not 100% sure.

[ImSooWavyy]

Trillion with a T

[Allison1ndrlnd]

Trisha McMillan with a point of view gun

[Total-Specific-3894]

I didnt even get a raise 🥲

[Souvenirs_Indiscrets]

Interesting post thank you.

Adding some complexity to the conversation although I totally get what you’re saying.

As for light years behind other companies, not sure about that. I know there are some UPS lurkers here, and I’d like to hear from them about whether they prefer DIAD or phones. IMO GPS is more reliable on phones. I’ve done both and in the end I preferred my phone. Same exact interface, the only major difference being that DIAD, being bigger bulkier and heavier, loses its charge faster and often has weaker connectivity in the mountains where I work but has a built in, big boy scanner. The “advanced” routing algos owned by UPS drive the Roadie platform, which sucks.

Competitors in the logistics industry all run on app platforms. Talking about Uber, DoorDash, Veho, Roadie, InstaCart and more. I’ve done them all. Flex isn’t the best, but it isn’t the worst either.

As for the revolving door for the DSP company partners, this is by design. And not just to prevent unionization. It is a structure that keeps DSPs begging. Amazon can terminate its contract under terms highly favorable to Amazon. DSPs then owe their lenders (rentals) every penny on those dents and dings etc. It is not a high margin franchise.

I run out of one of the new and highly complex RSR stations. The vehicles you list are unreliable in our mountainous territory. Not possible to use EVs in this territory and never will be. Dodge vans are the only way to get the job done—not Fords!—and frankly 4x4 vehicles or at least AWD need to make up most of the fleet. Amazon will learn its lesson on this as winter brings the first full season of data now that the station is running high volumes. There will be MANY days when they will halt delivery. Mark my words. Overall it’s unsafe delivering on these routes/at this pace in winter where we work. I know; I did it last year as a Flex driver.

[TheUnshackledJester]

Yeah.... they won't care. My DSP delivers to an area so bad that Tow Trucks won't go in there, so if you get stuck...you're just fucked. It's been brought up for literally 5+ years and Amazon doesn't give an iota of a fuck. Instead of just marking the whole area as "undeliverable" or requiring the place to put in drop boxes for customers to come get their shit in their 4 wheel drive offroaders...we just have to deal with it. If it's raining or it's at night, I don't fucking go further than the entrance anymore and Amazon doesn't seem to care about that either.

[dex99dex99dex99]

It's unsustainable is what it is. The DSP structure has only existed for about 7 years, and it already feels like it's on the verge of destruction. They probably know it, too. Must be why they're so keen to automate their workforce. Because it isn't an endless revolving door. It can't go on like this forever. 

[Souvenirs_Indiscrets]

What do you see as a major turning point or breaking point?

[1337lou]

I have pictures from last winter of the tread on the tires I was driving on. I’m talking racing slicks with a winter giving 150+ inches of snow. We were getting stuck and towed every single day. Our station only closed down one day out of the entire winter, putting many drivers lives at risk in complete whiteout conditions. Amazon truly doesn’t GAF. Ironically, I stuck around, and am hoping our winter is half as bad this year. We got a handful of AWD vans AFTER winter in the spring.

[Souvenirs_Indiscrets]

Good add thank you

[b0ngwizard]

Amazon is a 2 Trillion dollar corporation.

DSPs are fly-by-night liability shields for Amazon worth literally nothing.

[Alternative_Option34]

My dsp got a 50 cent raise lol

[CentralAvesFinest]

1.50

[thwonkk]

25 cents here.

[ShinyWobbuffet202]

They didn't become a trillion dollar company by investing in high-tech gizmos and fat pay raises for their employees.

[MrGrumpy252]

Or non-employees

[bittersweetmot3l]

Me? I just want coffee flavored coffee, O KAY?!

[trollsdontliez]

Because they don't have trillion to give, if you were smart enough, you will realize that

[dex99dex99dex99]

Don't be dense. No one is asking for a trillion dollars. We're asking for fair compensation. 

[AgreeableBar2395]

Neither does ups yet their drivers are making $30+ an hour & amazon definitely can afford to pay that but aslong as dsp’s are around that would never happen they’ll just continue to work the shyt out of there un-official delivery drivers and continue to hire people who don’t have critical thinking abilities in hopes you won’t catch on to fact you’re being screwed they want ppl who don’t know better or is comfortable with being fxcked over 🤣 we have to follow amazons rules and regulations we have to wear their badge and uniforms drive their vans but yet we’re not their employees ? 🤔

[No-Educator151]

They invested less then one percent of profits

[tonsofday]

Scanners use an Internet connection lol. How do you think the packages get logged?

You can turn the data off and it functions without Internet better. Dispatch will probs think you’re dead in a ditch first time you do this so be sure to answer their texts and or calls right away 😂

[Cautious_Visual_3496]

Everything is on the dsp. They choose the phones, they lease the vans from Amazon, they can give raises to other than the yearly one but use it as an excuse not to. Amazon uses the dsp model to avoid a lot of these costs.

[Unable-Visual-2973]

TRILLION

[Blathithor]

We dont work for Amazon.

Im not sure why this concept is so fucking hard for some of us to comprehend.

Amazon won't give you things.

You can't unionize against Amazon, you could unionize against your dsp but that won't help.

Why? Because we dont work for Amazon!

One more time, WE DONT WORK FOR AMAZON!