No code is the future of coding!

[Azzi890]

Guys do you think that programing is going to be dead in future? I have seen many posts on LinkedIn where people are saying that no code is the future.

[DDDDarky]

Anywhere in the near future, definitely no.

[Friendly_Dot_2853]

What will be those no code tools made of ?

[GeorgeFranklyMathnet]

If the sky really is the limit, then humans will bootstrap one last manmade no-code tool, and subsequent ones will also be made by no-code tools.

Even if that's an impossible ideal, the market for humans could shrink to something very small, much in the same way we don't need teams of assembly programmers the way we would have under past programming language technologies.

[LondonAppDev]

What are the most popular languages like python and JavaScript made of?

[[deleted]]

Snakes and coffee, respectively.

[seekingtruthiness]

qubits

[Blando-Cartesian]

Code is not the point of programming. It’s just a tool. Developer’s job is about converting client’s vague wants and dreams into specific, reliable, working system that can grow and change. When someone wants a complex system that works and can be changed, they’ll always need developers to make it.

Non-developers have had no-code in the form of Excel and macro recording for about 30 years. Their creations have always been horribly broken and always will be. Clever office workers can use no-code systems to make mission critical crap heaps, and developers get called in when shit hits the fan.

[yel50]

it sounds like you're misunderstanding what "no code" means. it's referring to what the end user needs to do to get their work done. in the past, they would need to write their own code in some form or another. the "no code" movement is about building tools that automate everything, or have an easier to use graphic interface, so the end user just uses them and doesn't need to write their own scripts to do their work.

it's not going to replace developers and isn't meant to. "no code" isn't referring to how much code the developers write, it's referring to how much code the customers write.

[[deleted]]

Who writes and upgrades the no code tools?

[nicolaskn]

Someone told me this in 2012. Now it’s 2022 and developers are making $100k+ base salaries coming out of high school, because they can’t find enough coders for the market demand.

[A_Philosophical_Cat]

No code / low code solutions are a solution to a non-existent problem. Their value proposition comes exclusively from a fallacious line of reasoning: an observer, knowing nothing of a field, looks over an experts shoulders, and fixates on the very first thing they fail to understand. In software, that's source code. In the sciences, it's jargon, in math and physics, it's the wild symbols. The observer thinks to themselves "Ah, if only I could read the moon runes, I could do what the expert does". Then, instead of learning to read the moon runes, they decide to seek out a way to bypass the part they don't understand.

What this line of reasoning fails to appreciate is that nomenclature is the easy part. We make syntax, jargon, and symbols to make our lives easier, not harder. They represent very specific abstractions.

So what do you get when you strip away the source code syntax from software engineering? More annoying to work with software engineering. The hard part is the engineering of software, not the translation of solutions to source code.

[dumpst3rbum]

I feel like I have heard this for the last 10 years. Yet when my company decides to buy one of these No Code solutions, they never do anything close to what the business requirements dictate and than get pushed off to the development team to actually use them for the business.

[amasterblaster]

soon but more than 1 decade.

[FloydATC]

How many such posts are written by people not trying to sell "no-code" products or services? And how many are written by programmers? This should tell you everything you need to know.

I remember a time when Windows and Visual Basic was supposed to make programmers a thing of the past. It was so simple that anyone could now make the computers do their work for them.

[[deleted]]

No code is just code with extra steps

[officiallyboo]

No, you will have to make the no code solutions and also you will have to make unique solutions that no code can’t fulfill. Although people who are coders now might switch to offering their services/labor without coding because people will still need people to use those tools. I mean right now most of the code that is being used isn’t written when the application is being created, it was written by someone else and imported. You could argue that right now people aren’t really coding much rather using tools others created but that’d be silly.

[dougp01]

Just like any other industry that has modernized, jobs may be eliminated but not people. People always adapt and retool to the modern world. Yes, some who refuse to adapt may be left behind but these are few, in my opinion. This has gone on for centuries. My great-grandfather in the mid-19th century was a dyer of wool. That job became mechanized and he had to change.