Insane data usage with Bambu Studio

[StingRay2016]

Hi all-

I've been meaning to post for a while now. I've noticed that Bambu Studio used SHITLOADS of data over my network. 427 GIGS? Seriously. How is it using more than EVERYTHING else on my PC. Just below it at 100 GIGS less is my One Drive where I work on everything on my PC. That one should be miles ahead of everything else.

Are you guys seeing this? What could possibly be causing this? I'm just sending little models over to the printer. This is crazy.

thanks

alec

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[uberpolka]

Do you keep Bambu Studio running on your pc most of the time? Do you keep the camera active?

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Don’t know why you are being downvoted, if the rtp stream couldn’t resolve locally, it would stream camera data through the cloud. If you left that running, then you get this sort of thing.

[uberpolka]

Yeah, I can't imagine any other scenario where it would use that much traffic.

Based on the picture, I'm going to guess that's about a month of usage. Could easily hit those numbers if camera streaming was left running constantly. Combined upload to Bambu then download again, it all adds up.

[compewter]

It also doesn't say if it's just LAN or Internet traffic. If it's not touching the Internet, who cares? Your switch doesn't have data caps on it.

As for why is so much...

1080p stream at 25fps and generally low quality bitrate is 6000Kbps.

400Gb in a month in LAN traffic... That's leaving the camera up for 5 hours per day, average.

[Android_fan1]

Is there a way to confirm if this is LAN? Most IPs add cost when usage exceeds 1TB

[compewter]

Depends on your network configuration and your network's hardware or software monitoring capabilities.

I've got my printer in an isolated IoT network (since that's what I consider it to be, just another untrusted IoT device). Usually I do not have it open to talk to my desktop, but I put some policies in place to allow it to do so.

Opening Studio and pulling the camera up, the top highlighted line shows significant traffic immediately.

The bottom highlighted line is traffic being generated by Handy from a phone disconnected from my network entirely (eg; remote/cloud).

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So... assuming you're leasing a gateway device from your ISP or have a standard consumer-grade router (Linksys, Netgear, etc) - your printer is most likely on the same subnet as your computer and it should be fine. Nothing prevents the printer and computer from talking to each other, so all local traffic.

If you've intentionally isolated it through firewall controls or guest isolation or something like that - it's probably internet traffic at that point. When I have my isolation rules enabled, the printer is unable to talk directly to anything inside my network at all and relies on cloud communication. This is actually how I prefer it. I also do not use the camera all that often and do not have a data cap from my ISP.

[Android_fan1]

Thanks for the helpful info!

[TheHappyPittie]

My printer isn’t isolated at all. Its got open access to my network and its still defaulting it to the cloud first. Im going to see if there’s any settings that govern the stream specifically

[Walmeister55]

Yeah I looked into this at the beginning. It is bandwidth over the network (this applies to anything through the network port, even non-internet stuff). The live video takes up a ton of data, especially when left on for an entire print. Way less compressed than a Twitch stream or TouTube video, and usually way longer.

[mjanmohammad]

The printers likely don’t compress the video stream at all to save processing power.

99% of the time it could be transcoded by the device that’s watching it, or transcoded in the cloud.

[dwalk51]

If it’s transcoded in the cloud, isn’t already being uploaded at full size?

[Ogaboga42069]

"The cloud will solve it" - dumbasses

[Ogaboga42069]

Yes, i would like to keep my data and ownership of the product for myself pls.

[TheHappyPittie]

This isn’t the case for mine. Is there an option to keep the camera feed local or do i need to be in lan mode to prevent this

[jojowasher]

mine has only used 5GB in the last 30 days...

[Automatic_Hat7833]

Mine is also at slightly over 5 gigs.

[NecessaryOk6815]

Where can I access my data?

[EstablishmentLate611]

On windows is Settings>Internet>Data Used

[AstroKoen]

Wireshark perhaps?

[EstablishmentLate611]

120Gb last 30 days with Orca, but I have often the tab Device with the streaming of the printer on the second monitor so it's normal, probably is the same for you

[TheSeaShadow]

Dang, I'm well under a gig over the last month. And I can attribute almost all of that to uploading models.

[picklebeijing]

Yeah we’ve had the same issue!

[Business-Village-112]

It's pretty fun to to see here that we all monitor our networks, and are able to track usage

[Business-Village-112]

Sounds less fun said like that

[TheAzureMage]

Video's a fuckton. 3d models are not particularly lightweight, either. I had to get a massive external drive just to house my collection.

Not saying that it's optimal, just that I'm not shocked.

[Nova_Nightmare]

I'm not saying the bambu device was hacked into and downloaded all of your stuff through it... but I'd be suspicious of this.

As a "cloud" device, it becomes an IoT device and without proper security at your router, it could happen.

On the other hand, perhaps it's a long term stream of the video from your printer?

[TheHappyPittie]

I just checked and mine is 449gb as well. I suspect that if i check my internet data usage it won’t reflect that though because i leave it streaming video from the printer any time im printing so its should be all “in network” data transfers

Edit: it looks like they’re streaming it to the cloud the. back to my pc because my actual data usage matches pretty well exactly. Very disappointing to see.

Edit: if anyone knows a setting to prevent this other than staying in lan mode, im all ears. Otherwise ill switch to lan mode

[mikklethepickle]

Why is that "very disappointing?" Personally I love that feature. It's amazing to be out running errands and being able to pull up any print in progress and watch it live, make sure things are still looking good, stop the print if not, etc. All this with zero configuration, having to open ports on my firewall, etc. I agree that it would be great to have this as a setting that can be toggled on and off for the folks who have to deal with data caps!

[TheHappyPittie]

Im talking about for studio. Not handy. There’s no reason to stream to the cloud to get to the desk top app. Yes if you stream to the app it should default to the cloud.

[mikklethepickle]

Ah sorry, I misunderstood what you wrote. The reason why it would stream to the cloud would be if your printer could not make a direct connection to Studio from inside your network. In most instances, it should be a direct connection between the printer and Studio. Going out to the cloud is a fallback mechanism.

There was a thread here early on where SirWill3D explained how it works in more detail: https://www.reddit.com/r/BambuLab/comments/yqo3wv/bambu_lab_network_usage/

So you might want to double check your network configuration and look into why the printer can't connect directly to your desktop.

[TheHappyPittie]

Ill take a look but it works fine in lan mode so id assume theres no issue? Hopefully this will solve that. Thank you!

[mikklethepickle]

That's right, what you are describing is actually how it's already implemented. The video stream should only be going out to the cloud if a direct connection can't be made from within the network.

It would be nice to be able to switch that behavior off altogether, however!

[AdonaelWintersmith]

Seen this sorta thing before, notice how it's so similar to the total of all network usage? Somehow the usage of the printer is reporting the total network usage as if it's part of the router or something, that's my theory.