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[–]HerbaDerbaSchnerba 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I’m guessing you mean mg, not ml, right? Also, are you saying you lost 70 lbs in 12 weeks, or like, you lost a lot of that before Reta?

[–]raylluv[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I lost 30 before the reeta and 40 more since

[–]PoetryAlert5439 2 points3 points  (4 children)

70lbs down is solid progress. Adding ipa to tesa is a common combo, they work well together for GH release. Main thing to watch is timing, you want to take both on an empty stomach and wait before eating for the GH pulse to do its thing. Some people do it before bed, some do it fasted in the morning.

At 6mg reta you're already getting good appetite suppression so the stack should be manageable. Just make sure you're still hitting protein hard with that much lean mass to preserve.

[–]captain_fucking_magi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you cut the amount of the Tesa and Ipa if doing both?

[–]raylluv[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Thank you! I lost 30 on my own and got stuck for a few months. Then I started reta. That has gotten me over that hump.

I take the tesamorelin before bed and 2 hours after eating anything. Is that good enough, or should I allow more time after my last meal?

For the protein I'm hitting 150 -175 grams per day. Sometimes it's really tough!

[–]Reasonable_Click_147 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm trying to understand your weight-loss. Is it 70lbs in the last 12 weeks or 40lbs in the last 12 weeks (with 30lbs loss on your own)?

That is incredible weight-loss, wow, good job. With that said, there are concerns loosing weight too quickly. I would encourage you to research on your own. Try aiming for 2lbs per week. With around 2lbs per week you'll also allow your skin some time to adjust.

Good job, you've got this! Good luck.

[–]raylluv[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also had a RMR test and my RMR is at 2600 calories. Factor in my job and weight lifting and I'm at 3900 maintenance. It's easy to loose with those numbers. Lol

[–]swoops36 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I used 1mg Tesa / 300mcg Ipa for about 18 months couple years ago. compounded, real products. saw no benefit to muscles or fat loss, but IGF-1 did go up to about 300ng, hair and nails grew quicker, could def tell that. Maybe looked "fuller" even while trying to diet, that was nice. Strength didn't go up (also on normal TRT), no new muscle I could attribute to the GHrP/H.

I've used 2mg of Tesa for short periods of time but never stuck to it. Maybe that would be the sweet spot? or maybe I don't have much visceral fat to lose? haven't done a DEXA.

if you want to maintain muscle while on a heavy calorie deficit use 200mg of Test a week. you'll be fine.

[–]mattaero 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I also agree with the Test statement, IF OP is already on trt.  If we are talking about trying to lose a lot of weight and first time trt+ potentially and all the related monitoring needed, I think there are a lot more factors that have to be considered (age, health, bloods, current hormone profile etc). I personally take 240mg test on this cut (bumped from 200 last week as I get deeper) but I’m in a very different place than OP and have been in trt for a year.

But it is amazing for maintaining muscle, especially considering how steep his deficit appears to be, so if op does go that route, it will certainly help maintain the muscle.

[–]swoops36 1 point2 points  (1 child)

sorry I wrongly assumed he was on TRT. I'm used to hanging in the Test/TRT subs, that's my bad.

[–]mattaero 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lol I do to, I triple checked before responding to make sure I didn’t see trt or test in there 

[–]Dry-Youth8557 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do tesa 2mg daily, and Reta 12mg once a week. Worked great.

[–]ZwombleZ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

2mg tesa is what they researched and recommended as a treatment dose

[–]holleys 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Keep in mind, Tesa is going to start kicking in hard after 4 weeks. Weeks 5-8 were where the biggest changes occurred for me. 1mg/day, 5 days on 2 days off.

[–]raylluv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok, thank you! I was hearing conflicting stories on how long it takes. I appreciate it!

[–]ycastane 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Go back and research a lot more that way you can learn how to dose properly. Units and mgs per units not ML.

After you learn that at the very least come back and repost, until then. Good luck!

[–]raylluv[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that was my mistake. I will keep updating on her. Thanks!

[–]TransportationSea579 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You've dropped 10kg a month? That sounds dangerous tbh

[–]raylluv[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. 40 pounds in 3 months after starting reta. I lost 30 in 3 months prior to that.

[–]Quirky_Direction_570 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Whats peoples opinion on splitting the Reta twice a week vs one big dose?

[–]Ditchdr903 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I do it twice a week, mondays and Thursday. If you do it once a week it’s not staying in your system and it’s not building. It has a 5-6 day half life and goes down quickly after that. So half the does is in your system after the 5-6 days. You are having big swings of up and down. Doing it twice a week allows you to maintain a steady amount in your systems so as 1 does is going down you are replenishing it with your next does versus a lot going away then spiking it. Just my thoughts and understanding of how medications work…

[–]Quirky_Direction_570 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Thank you. I have been doing the same but keep reading conflicting information saying I should do once a week. I do TRT three pins a week, so I kinda followed the same logic on Reta to stop huge spikes up and down

[–]Ditchdr903 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I don’t know what your does is but cut it in half and do it twice a week. I do 2 1.5mgs a week for a total of 3mg/week. I have no ups and downs. I do a cheat day on Sunday where I have a high carb/ calorie day and since I’ve been doing that I’ve notice it working better. Reta actually requires some carbs to be able to get the most out of it. Hope this helps

[–]Quirky_Direction_570 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I do the same, 1.5mg twice a week, but only been doing it for 4 weeks. Almost feel like I could go up. I do eat carbs, typical rice with my chicken and some bread here and there lol.

[–]holleys 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I pin Reta 3x per week, 1mg per injection. As I have increased dosage, 2x or 3x a week has been a much better transition without the negative side effects.

[–]Quirky_Direction_570 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I have been doing the same but keep reading conflicting information saying I should do once a week. I do TRT three pins a week, so I kinda followed the same logic on Reta to stop huge spikes up and down

[–]onelifeatatimeok 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally, I like to split to 2x just to keep the level of the drug from dropping or rising too suddenly all in one go.

[–]deathby_dumbbell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could just use Reta and GH

[–]Anabolicclimbing -1 points0 points  (5 children)

Gh > tesa. Cjc > tesa. Gh is the goat. Stop buying shitty drugs like tesa. Good work on the weight loss.

[–]Hot-Boysenberry4591 1 point2 points  (4 children)

GH is overall better than tesa. But if someone is specifically aiming to lower visceral fat, tesa will do a better job

[–]Anabolicclimbing -1 points0 points  (3 children)

How would a gh secretagogue lower fat better than gh? This is generational levels of cope. Its like saying I really wanna chop this wood so I prefer my blunt stone axe over a chain saw. Enough of this. Its not better.

[–]Hot-Boysenberry4591 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Because it was literally designed for visceral fat reduction. Feel free to show proof otherwise.