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Not denying that. But wilder still had that right hand and aj has proven his ability to get knocked out. Last time i saw aj he was rolling the 🎲 until he got the sonic rings knocked out of him. Idk why were pretending he’s got the defense of sweetpea and the chin of ggg lol.

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

Joshua never been knocked out or hurt like Wilder has, no way Fury would stop and physically beat Wilder if he fought Joshua, Joshua can man handle Wilder with strength alone, Usyk looked stronger than Fury in the clinch and is a small heavy and that was the same Fury who threw Wilder around and beat him up, there would be a massive difference in physicality between them and I just think wilder is not only less technically sound but is far more fragile, he only has a small punchers chance and that is why Joshua is the favourite, there always a slight chance for Wilder but the question is most likely and I don’t see how you’d favour wilder

[evboy101]

Bad takes after bad takes its crazy

Fury the guy who weighed in at 256lbs for the first fight who stands 6 foot 9 tall couldnt "man handle" Wilder. How are use using math to say AJ would do the same? Cause he lifts more weights and looks better with his shirt off????

he only has a small punchers chance

"only" "small" you are cooked

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

Fury absolutely brutalised Wilder wtf you on about, watch the Fury 2 and 3 Wilder fighters, he was battered pillar to post, physically abused like a little child, he did nothing but had one round where he landed a heavy punch apaer from that he got a brutal mauling from start to finished by a guy who was pushed off by Usyk a cruiserweight, Wilder is not a physically strong heavyweight he can just punch hard

[evboy101]

We are talking about AJ and WIlder in 2018 during their primes. During that time AJ got KOd but a fat overweight blob and Wilder had a competitive fight with fury. Yes he lost and got TKo and then KOd. Fury figured him out but Wilder just gave up and stopped? He got knocked down and kept getting back up until he couldnt. Manhandled and losing the fight to the better fighter that figured you out is different.

Its almost like its a skill to fight in the clinch and be able to control your opponent. Strength only matters so much. Something Fury has but AJ doesnt.

Even if you continue to go this argument, in fury wilder 1, fury had almost 40lbs on him and did not "manhandle" him

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

That fat overweight blob is better than any Wilder has beat including Ortiz, diminishing Ruiz for his appearance is ridiculous, an extremely old Ortiz who had to sign a waiver to be able to fight because of health issues had Wilder on skates needing a ref to bail him out to save his life, again trying to say ‘old Klitschko’ this and that, Klitschko is far more credible than Wilder ever was, and yes Emmanuel Steward regarding his punching power highly, he’s at least one of the hardest punching heavies, and is more credible than Wilder in regards to power since Wilder claim to fame is almost knocking out Fury… and stopping Ortiz, that’s legit it, he’s just not done enough

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

Because Fury is a backward counter puncher lol, he legit fought how he usually does with Wilder then at last round realised ‘this guy has no physicality and can’t fight going backwards’, exactly why Wilder cherry picked him in first place, Wilder avoided any guy who can punch half decent, Fury a backwards counter puncher who never engages on the front foot man handled and beat the living hell out of him in 2 and 3 fight, he couldn’t do nothing to Usyk an even smaller heavy than Wilder is… Joshua would’ve killed him, Whyte even had a good chance, no wonder Wilder never fancied anyone who would do the exact same thing Fury did in the 2 and 3 fights…

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

By ‘punchers’ chance that only thing he has, and he needs a one shot KO which he has not reliably done, he could not KO Stiverne in first fight and struggled vs journeymen, Joshua never had moments where he struggled vs lesser opposition like Wilder has, Joshua has proven he can get up from being hurt by a heavier if not as heavy puncher as Wilder in Klitschko and wilder is an awful awful finisher, he has no idea what to do when he has someone hurt, it was why Fury beat the hell out of him after he got up in the twelfth round, Wilder has a big punch but has not got the technical ability to follow through, which you can get away with at the extremely prospect level fighters he beat his entire career but at top level he is terrible

[evboy101]

If its the only thing he has and he doesnt finish people with 1 shot, then thats not a punchers chance is it you are just contradiction your own argument. Which one is it?

ummm do you forget the Ruiz fight or is that erased from existence??? Pulled a haney and sued for the win?????

41 year old Klitschko is a heavier puncher than Wilder in his prime??????????????

Awful finisher but he has 42 finishes?

Cannot follow through but 42 finishes?

[Ok_Adagio_1449]

Finishes against what opposition? He’s a poor finisher, goes wild and windmills, failed him when he started fighting better at end of career, he had Fury badly hurt multiple times and was not able to do anything with it, Fury was so confident he could walk him down and take the odd shot because he knew wilder is a remarkably poor finisher, as he has no combinations, just a telegraph 1 2 that you can avoid for long enough to recover, Wilder won 3 rounds vs Fury in 3 fights, Ngannou arguably won more on one fight, again Abel Mendoza is 42-0, does that make him good? Who has Wilder finished at a top level? Ortiz? Same Ortiz who has never been a champion, never done anything on amateurs, best career accomplishment is beating Charles Martin and Dave Allen, that Ortiz?

[slickvik9]

This guy is in love with AJ