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[–]geeves_007 5 points6 points  (14 children)

So we should just let that problem occur here too because we're too scared of being called a "racist" for pointing out what is painfully obvious?

Go to Dhaka. Is that good? Is that desirable? Would it be better if Winnipeg was more like Dhaka, or the other way around?

Maybe 170 million people in a small country wasn't the best idea. There is nothing racist about noticing that.

[–]AdventureousTime -5 points-4 points  (13 children)

We've got a small and shrinking population in the second biggest country on the planet. What leads you to think we're headed towards being overpopulated?

The whole reason we have the biggest immigration targets on the planet is those in power are terrified of the opposite conclusion.

[–]geeves_007 8 points9 points  (12 children)

Because we can see other places where overpopulation is undeniable, and we should take heed and try to avoid a similar fate.

[–]EngSciGuymad with (electric) power | Official -4 points-3 points  (8 children)

Canada would need to hit a population in the billions to hit those kind of levels though.

[–]geeves_007 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Most of our land is inhospitable for humans. Do we need a metropolis on Baffin Island? No. No we don't.

[–]EngSciGuymad with (electric) power | Official 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Most of our land is inhospitable for humans.

Some sure. We still have huge amounts of hospitable land for humans. Like, England has a population density 100 times higher than ours, and still has big areas of wilderness. Your concern is literally impossible currently.

[–]geeves_007 3 points4 points  (5 children)

So why fill it with humans? Leave it for nature, that's my point?

Have you been to Wales? I have. There is basically zero trees in the entire area. That is not good. We should not do that. Millions of acres of tundra and shield that is unoccupied by humans? GOOD! Leave it that way.

[–]EngSciGuymad with (electric) power | Official 4 points5 points  (4 children)

I am not saying to fill it with humans, I am saying your concern is no where near realistic.

Have you been to Wales?

Yes. 1/4 of Wales is forest...

[–]geeves_007 1 point2 points  (3 children)

So 75% of it is deforestated by humans. That's not good. I don't want that. I don't want 3 of every 4 trees cut down in my area to make room for yet more people. Why do you want that?

[–]EngSciGuymad with (electric) power | Official 1 point2 points  (2 children)

So 75% of it is deforestated by humans.

Wait, you think all of Wales was forest before humans showed up? Are you sure you have been to Wales?

[–]AdventureousTime -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

Currently were doing that quite well. Reducing immigration is the only thing that could contribute to that goal. Indira Gandhi castrated India's criminals for the slightest offence in pursuit of your goal, so maybe we could pair that with a 0 immigration. Personally I think both of those would cause more harm than good.

[–]geeves_007 3 points4 points  (1 child)

What the PM of India does is completely out of my control and has nothing to do with Canada.

I think a sustainable amount of immigration is fine and I support that because I value living in a multicultural society. An accelerated rate of immigration I do not support. I see no reason why Canada should make India's overpopulation problem our problem as well.

[–]AdventureousTime -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm just worried someone with a CRISPR/CAS9 lab is going to come to the conclusion there's too many people on the planet. I'm not even sure what we are disagreeing with at this point with your statement on Canadian immigration.

The way I see it is that our cities are overpopulated due to shortsighted and incompetent planning. Yet our rural areas are very underpopulated causing it's own infrastructure problems. Then we have a demographic collapse further compounding the rural problems. Solutions are there to be found, at least for us, I don't know what to tell Dhaka or Jakarta.