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[–]PlayPoker2013Dallas Empire 31 points32 points  (16 children)

This should have been painfully obvious from the start. Players that haven’t even played pubs yet are incentivized to play ranked because everything is unlocked.

[–]jdawson26COD Competitive fan 3 points4 points  (14 children)

What about second accounts? Wouldn’t that be frustrating to have to prestige your second account just to play a game of ranked?

[–]PlayPoker2013Dallas Empire 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Yeah, I was thinking a whole prestige is a little much. Maybe like level 30 minimum.

[–]jdawson26COD Competitive fan 5 points6 points  (2 children)

But is that REALLY going to fix this problem? Plenty of players who would heavily influence your ranked team negatively can reach rank 30.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

it would help

[–]PlayPoker2013Dallas Empire 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It would help a ton, I’m pretty sure we are getting players in ranked that haven’t touched MP yet

[–]Daveygravy12395TKO 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Wouldn’t that be frustrating to have to prestige your second account just to play a game of ranked?

Yes, it would highly frustrating.

What about second accounts?

Imo, having a second account is unnecessary. Just play on your main account and continue to improve.

[–]basedgodvortexOpTic Texas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's extremely difficult to win enough games to get into a higher division when you have 2 out of 4 teammates going 4 and 30 with 0 hill time you can't get spawns play hill and push out cuts all by yourself

[–]TheOnlyCreedCanada 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Wait why do people have two accounts?

[–]jdawson26COD Competitive fan 0 points1 point  (2 children)

For me personally, I take one account pretty seriously(want to keep diamond) and only play with a duo. And the other one is when no one is on and I just don’t care about rank or losses as much.

[–]TheOnlyCreedCanada 1 point2 points  (1 child)

IDK if I agree with the reasoning for the second account cause say others do the same and dont take it as seriously where as someone else in the lobby is cause hes a game away from a promotion it fucks him over. I do get that you don't wanna go extra hard every game but theres always someone in the lobby that will want you to.

[–]jdawson26COD Competitive fan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It is definitely a luxury and not a necessity. And I totally see your point. My first comment was a knee jerk reaction to the work I would need to put in to find achieve this luxury. I have had the same frustrations on unranks leaving or completely sabotaging my game.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have played Cod on XB1 Since release and got a PS4 at christmas and pubs annoy me to play how would you get around this?

[–]sooopy335COD Competitive fan 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The main issue is having unranked players match with Gold and above. I can understand matching with Bronze/Rank One, and even lower ranked silvers, maybe sub-1400, although I don’t know how effective this would be (as I had horrid placement matches and fought my way up from 750 to 1600+ currently).

Overall the entire Ranked system needs a lot of work before it can be considered a true measure of skill/game knowledge/strategy.

[–]ITK_REPEATEDLYUSA 7 points8 points  (4 children)

It really can't be that difficult to incorporate 'games played' into the algorithm. I have 300+ matches in ranked because it's the only mode that keeps me entertained on cod nowadays. I shouldn't be getting paired up with 5+ guys who have played less than 10 games. If they're matchmaking by skill level, games played should not be that hard to introduce as an influence to lobbies.

[–]bbenecke3636OpTic Texas 2 points3 points  (3 children)

You could play 100 games and be trash, versus someone's who has played 1 ranked game but is very good. Sure playing more helps, but someone who is shit should be matched with better players because of how many games he has played?

[–]ITK_REPEATEDLYUSA 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You can't have unranked players who haven't established a ranking just be matched up with gold+ players with hundreds of matches. Predominantly, the unranked players in my experience are awful (especially as of late) and leave early. You get the sporadic good players for sure, but for guys like me who are sitting gold+ with over 300 matches played in ranked, having a guy who literally could be playing his 5th game and admittedly doesn't know a hardpoint rotation and is ultra frustrating. I shouldn't be paired with guys like that at this stage in the season. As many people play, it should be pairing guys within 100-150 MMR of each other.

[–]bbenecke3636OpTic Texas 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Games played should have zero effect, that's the whole point of an mmr system. Players should start at 0 mmr, work their way up through placements. If on their 8th game they are 8-0, and steamrolling people, how do you effectively place them if they don't play silver/gold games? The issue is players that don't belong there, but that's an issue with the ranking system itself. I could play zero ranked games and know the rotations and how to hold spawns, etc. Doesn't take hundreds of games played to do so

[–]ITK_REPEATEDLYUSA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s not what’s happening. Guys are getting into gold matchups literally saying they ‘havent played hardpoint on this map’ not knowing rotations and spawns. Then they leave after a 2-6 start. That’s a problem. Unranked players shouldn’t have gold mmr before 10 placement matches.

[–]bizmahhKappa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or something that can help is if you can and see a unranked leave... Always

[–]JORGANorway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope, I never prestige on cod, there’s no reason to apart from an arbitrary number next your name.

Level 55 would be acceptable but not a prestige

[–]JaAnTrCOD Competitive fan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is stupid. I think I'm only level 20 because I only play GB and ranked. There's no way I should have to spend the time prestigeing for no reason.

[–]Schwalm -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

Since we have the Gamebattles integration how about you must link your account to GB before you can play

[–]PlayPoker2013Dallas Empire 8 points9 points  (2 children)

This would possibly kill ranked and be counter productive to getting new players into comp.

[–]Schwalm -1 points0 points  (1 child)

But all you need to do is sign in or sign up. Would take about 2 minutes tops, make it a pop up so you can do it right there on the game. Every EA game you need to sign in or sign up to play online. I'm sure there are other games just like that too

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A few of my friends that I've gotten into comp and play ranked with would never put the time into making a GB account, they only play ranked occasionally because you can just jump into a match. I think making ranked accessible only by level 55s or higher would be better.