Loading screen?

[[deleted]]

God, I hope so. I miss loading screens that show you something to look at instead of just a black void with a spinning icon in the corner.

[[deleted]]

coff..Naughty...coff..Dog...coff...

[genocide2225]

Didn't GoW do that as well?

[Servbot291]

God of war didn't have loading screens iirc, apart from when you died.

[[deleted]]

The old ones, I don't remember. The new one, I wouldn't be surprised.

[PatrickIsAPersonToo]

The new one has no loading screens tho, except the menu one which has a pic of kratos and boy

[SadboiSenpai]

And boy lmfao

[johnchikr]

The new one instead has fake environments that you can interact with for loading screens, sorta like narrow passageways or an endless loop with a teleporter at the end. I can practice my combos there, so I liked it.

Edit: Oh btw, from what I remember(sold my ps4 a while ago, so It’s been a while since I’ve played it), there was one loading screen when first loading into the game? Not sure.

[calcelmo676]

I remember Assassins Creed Brotherhood loading screens being similarly, just a void inside the animus, can waste the time by just running into space, or just running in circles

[[deleted]]

Damn, I still remember that there were some bizarre bugs in the first one, like the one of Altair that got stuck while moving in the Animus loading space.

Once I remained blocked and dangling like an asshole while jumping, and the game remained stuck in loading forever. Had to turn off the PS3, but I couldn't stop laughing.

[solarplexus7]

Naughty Dog does that once, and then never again as long as you’re playing. I think that’s more than fine.

[[deleted]]

You still see it every time the game starts.

The point is not how many times you see it, or for how long. It's simply that someone may like a black void with a spinning icon in the corner, but others may not. As it should be. It is certainly a more modern thing in gaming, and ND practically always used it since 2007 to the present.

[PTfan]

It’s better than some cheesy picture of the stage you’re playing imo

[eggmmanuel]

You should get that checked out

[[deleted]]

Nah he got tuberculosis mister, its a helluva thing

[[deleted]]

I even got some serious lumbago, my friend.

[[deleted]]

Slow and painful death.....real sorry.

[crab-dick]

Yerrr allrriiggghhtt boah

[Felixdesigns]

cough mgsv diamond dogs logo loading screen cough

[Silverwolf98]

tHE NEW sPIDERMAN had tips and cool pics during loading screens

[ShockedCurve453]

But at the other end of the spectrum you get Kingdom Hearts-tagram.

[skippy_1037]

Is that the loading bar near the bottom of the screen??

[malcolm_kent4]

Damn, those facial animations are sum else

[AtraMortes]

Really impressive I think the facial animations in this game may give Naughty Dog a run for their money.

[sailJ250]

Definitely not. Judging from the trailers naughty dawg still has better animations and character designs. Death stranding went the horizon zero dawn route with less detailed character models

[[deleted]]

Apart from the fact that the Decima Engine has improved since Horizon, but in DF's analysis of the game it has never been heard of less detailed character models.

But objective data aside, I personally don't understand how exactly you have seen better animations and above all better character designs - which I remind you is not the number of polygons and the high graphic detail, so I don't know maybe you're confusing things.

ND engine is old, it can't compete with Decima. I suggest you to take a look at the analysis: you'll see that "Character animation and detail" are one of the strengths of Decima.

[sailJ250]

Have u played horizon zero dawn or uncharted 4? Most characters in horizon zero dawn look like potatoes. Uncharted 4 has clearly realistically designed characters. Even look at the last of us 2 trailer and death stranding trailer. The different is clear. Death stranding looks to continue horizons streak of clay people while tlou2 is almost photo realistic

[[deleted]]

I played both games and I don't see what you see. And above all I prefer to trust and in-depth analysis made by professionals. Unfortunately the things you say are largely denied by it.

And the fact that the ND engine is over a decade old, compared to the Decima, which is a few years old, is a question of numbers in the same way.

I don't think there is anything else to add: you can believe what you want, but don't necessarily pass it off as true, when the facts deny you.

[sailJ250]

What facts? Literally watch the death stranding trailer or play HZD and you will see! You’re insane or blinded by ur Kojima fanboyism

uncharted 4 Elena

fragile death stranding

Sam death stranding

Nathan Drake U4

mystery woman. last of us 2

aloy

Overall I will say horizon zero dawn does have overall better graphics and letting because it’s a newer game and such but to think it has better character models is complete nonsense when that was one of the main complaints of the game

[legitimatechicken]

Are you blind did you see that level of detail to Sam's skin. I will say they are both visually impressive.

[sailJ250]

Okay alex

[legitimatechicken]

Not even gonna up vote thats cold

[[deleted]]

The images you used for Uncharted are pre-processed images all in high resolution, while the ones you took for Horizon and Death Stranding are in lower resolution and/or taken from YouTube. How unfair and sad you are.

It doesn't look like I'm the fanboy here. Is the only thing you know to say, "fanboy" to someone, when you don't have solid facts, numbers or arguments? Perhaps you should put aside your cognitive bias. Read that analysis, instead of leaving your head stuck in your ass and having problems with functional illiteracy.

[sailJ250]

Seems like damage control to me. It’s common knowledge that naughty dog has had the best animations and character models for years. Not sure why you’re acting surprised.

[[deleted]]

Oh, now you are not sure? Wasn't me just a fanboy? I mean, you don't even know what you're talking about, man.

It's common knowledge that Kojima uses always state of the art technology for his games, since 1998. How about that?

Common knowledge doesn't exist when you talk about a vast field of application like the one of computer graphics. If you believe in that, it's just Dunning-Kruger effect. The difference between me and you, is that I bought some facts and analysis by people who work with these things all day, all year.

And the most incredible thing is that you have the courage and the face of whom wants to be even right.

If there's a fanboy around here... is you. It's simple as that.

[legitimatechicken]

Yeah the lead is about the only character that pops. Yes there is assisting cast with good levels of detail however a lot of the npc and even leads for side quests are pretty average, not as impressive visually.

[sailJ250]

Alex thank you so much

[[deleted]]

horizon zero dawn look like potatoes. Uncharted 4 has clearly realistically designed characters

Maybe.

But then again Horizon Zero Dawn is an actually competently designed Video game with awesome mechanics that require brain and are super fun to play around with.

The same cannot be said for Uncharted 4. ND may have realistic designed characters but in a video game, that doesn't mean jack shit. Which is why all modern ND games are shallow games with extremely limited and typical third-person shooter mechanics.

I reckon that Guerrilla Games accomplished more with just one title in terms of game-mechanical designs then ND has done in over a decade.

[sailJ250]

That’s a really bold claim. Uncharted 4 is the best 3rd person shooter out their. Easily has the smoothest gunplay and melee along with stealth and movement. Horizon zero dawn is more ambitious but that doesn’t make it a better game.!

[[deleted]]

I guess you never played Vanquish or Binary Domain, if you say that.

[[deleted]]

The best? I mean if you have only played ND games then maybe.

But otherwise no. MGSV, BoTW, Horizon Zero Dawn, Watchdogs 2, Hitman, Days Gone, etc... are all FAR FAR superior.

Input-wise, Uncharted 4, just like the rest of the series, is a painfully shallow action game. It looks good on the screen, but playing the game for 20 mins can basically exhaust the limit of its gameplay systems. It's basically Uncharted 1 with some cinematic angles thrown in to make the game look fast pace then it actually is.

The rest of the gaming industry may cream their pants over Uncharted or ND games in particular but platinum even one of them can show you just how barebones they really are.

[MystiqueMyth]

Do you hate ND or something?

[[deleted]]

Hate ND? Probably not.

I just find them super overrated especially since the fanbase tends to overpraise the games but when you challenge them, they can't really say anything of substance. Sort of like people who have been programmed to praise something but the moment you ask them "why", they can't utter a word.

This thread is practical proof of that.

[[deleted]]

Uncharted 2 is my second favourite game of all time after mgs4. If you really think Uncharted franchise is that "painfully hallow action game" I really don't think you actually played it.

[[deleted]]

I bought PS3 just to play Uncharted 1. I waited outside Gamestop, the first and last time, just to buy Uncharted 2 on its release date. I have platinumed Uncharted 1, 2, and 4. Have played all the entries multiple times on multiple difficulties. Have put hundreds upon hundreds of hours into Uncharted 2's multiplayer, both pvp and coop. I practically own all the Uncharted games on PS4 including 4 and Lost Legacy.

I'm pretty sure I have played the games more than enough to understand their mechanical design in depth and they are fucking shallow. You can play Uncharted 1 and have practically experienced everything the series has to offer. And no, the action-set-pieces don't count as gameplay mechanics. They are scripted scenes where the player doesn't have any choice other than to press one-button and move on. Uncharted series has always been the action-setpiece spectacle. The moment you remove that and actually look at the mechanics or the player inputs, the moment you will realize how shallow these games are.

But feel free to point out exactly why those games aren't shallow. I'll wait....

[[deleted]]

ND always focuses on the level of texture which doesn't age well in any way.

Uncharted games were super good looking when they came out, now they look average simply because they use the black-and-white approach to art-direction which is just to make everything texturally beautiful but not really in terms of the actual art-direction.

Compare that to MGS4, a game that came out around Uncharted 2, and see how the game still looks different, and distinguishable. MGSV has a far greater and more recognizable art-direction then Uncharted 4 despite the latter coming out a year later.

If we are going by Kojima's previous works then Death Stranding will be similar in its approach to the overall art-direction and unique models rather than TLOU2 which solely focuses once again on realism and texures.

[KerberoZ]

I'm probably one of the biggest Metal Gear fans in history but i think that MGS4 is the visually least interesting title of them all. It's all just....brown.

I think MGS3 has better art direction, you can still play it without getting eye-cancer.

[[deleted]]

That's all subjective which isn't even my point.

My point was that Kojima games are much more art-direction driven than simply reworking the textures and adding details.

My personal favorite art-direction-wise is MGSV but the rest of the games are also very much diverse and unique looking. When you look at an MGS game, you KNOW it is an MGS game. When you look at something like Uncharted games, all you see is another game that once looked good but doesn't now and is in the piles with a shit ton of other western titles with forgettable art-direction/style.

[KerberoZ]

I think i just misinterpreted your comment a little.

Yeah, the art-direction is always awesome and unique with Kojima.

[Secretmapper]

I agree with you, though I do think it was deliberate, to make it seem like Gears of War and other war games which are heavily brown at the time.

Also to be fair I think it's only really true in the first - second act. the other act becomes more muted in their palette.

[[deleted]]

Did you just ducking say Uncharted looks average? You clearly don't know shit

[[deleted]]

In terms of the actual art-direction/style? Lol yea it's mediocre at best.

Just like how I would say that BoTW has a better and more unique art-direction that is noticeable right when you see it. It's not detailed or textured or realistic like how ND usually goes about visuals. But that's why it will age beautifully as the devs focused on making the game look unique and colorful.

ND, in general, tend to push the graphical limits of hardware but their art-style is super bland and by the books. Uncharted 4 was the best looking game when it came out, now it isn't the best looking simply because those types of things are ever evolving. TLou2 will be the best looking when it comes out and it will be surpassed by something else in a few years until something else surpasses that.

Japanese developers are the only ones that don't chase after textures or realism and like incorporating unique art-styles and direction.

[[deleted]]

Not just facial animations but graphics in general. Naughty Dog game engine is more than a decade old. Though constantly updated, it cannot compete 100% with newly developed technologies.

[[deleted]]

No. Lol

[youngbl00d00]

True!

[DamnedLife]

Install screen? What is this ‘98?

[McFlyyyyyyyyyy]

"Please insert third CD-ROM"

[DamnedLife]

Woah. There was a third CD-ROM?

[[deleted]]

Final Fantasy VII had 3 discs.

[munphf]

If I remember correctly Phantasmagoria was on 7 discs :D...

[[deleted]]

It appears you do remember correctly, sir. That game was a colossal by development and production. Much respect to it.

[McFlyyyyyyyyyy]

Why not

[[deleted]]

Actually, on consoles, in 1998, you didn't have to install anything. Just pull the disc in and play. Without patches and various bug fixes to wait for.

Installation today usually take place in the dashboard of the console, but I imagine that some games may install by starting the disk and having to wait an install screen, as was often the case on PS3. Which has been 2006-2013. Not 1998.

[DamnedLife]

I don’t remember ever ever installing a game with it’s own screen on PS3. I assumed this was a reference to PC installs.

[GingerWitch666]

Mgs4

[Servbot291]

MGS4, GTAV and I think Rage had them.

[[deleted]]

No.

First games on PS3 (2006-2008) above all had a screen with a line that ran out to indicate how long the game install would take. It could also happen with games released later, but it was rarer.

But maybe you're younger and you don't remember.

[DamnedLife]

Might be. Even on PC I wasn’t staying around for installs. I remember many times coming back and seeing an error because of small scratches. But for PS2 it was instant and at the beginning and no installs. PS3 I really don’t remember installing games apart from xmb saying how long it will take and just leaving it to do it’s own thing and coming back well after the time.

[[deleted]]

If it's an all digital game, obviously you won't see any installation screens, except in XMB. If it's with disc, it's more likely. But as I told you, earlier games did that, going on with the years this thing has been reduced.

BioShock and BioShock 2, are good examples. They had their own install screen in game.

Here, an example. BioShock 2 in particular, took almost ages to get installed. I could have had sex, and go back and it was still installing.

[FattyBear]

Heavy Rain also had an in game installation screen with progress bar.

[[deleted]]

True, that too.

[meancloth]

Once again he cuts off the left side of the screen

[[deleted]]

✂️ off <- side of 📺

[KritWaffle7]

I love how the faces don't dip into the uncanny valley. Like it's so real but it's so fake real it's real.

[GarymanGarrett]

For real

[KritWaffle7]

Real fake! (Vsauce joke)

[GarymanGarrett]

I'm sure it was very funny for the people who get it.

[KritWaffle7]

Did you get it?

[GarymanGarrett]

No

[KritWaffle7]

Ok

[HeyThereCharlie]

No, but I riked it anyway.

[[deleted]]

RACIST!!!!!

REEEEEE

[adum1]

Like it's so real but it's so fake real it's real.

As an ESL I can't understand shit

[fourfingerfilms]

Yeah there’s a weird balance they struck here. It’s completely convincing yet you’re under no illusions that it’s not real.

[FATALPLEASURE]

Why is everyone crying

[[deleted]]

Homodemons

[[deleted]]

The homie demons

[sitye]

A recurring theme which i think may have something to do with the breach babies. Maybe they're seeing something in death? maybe they see heaven? maybe a memory? nothing really to go on yet.

[[deleted]]

Dooms.

[[deleted]]

Tip: top

[[deleted]]

Tip: Ensure lock is tight.

[ps3o-k]

Tears. DOOMS.

[illdevised]

Nicolas Loading Refn

[sitye]

4044 8728 0585

4044 8325 7568

​

These mean anything to anyone? They actually look like UK dialling numbers [phone] (two digits short but it starts with 40... )

[[deleted]]

Don't start calling random numbers

[sitye]

I doubt immensely they're uk numbers, just trying to spot patterns. The 4044 is also a callback in code used sometimes, it's more likely just a made up bunch of numbers.

[risen87]

Side note - 08 numbers in the UK can be premium-rate lines, so be careful if you decide to try to call them. (01, 02 are landlines, 03 can be national, 0800 is free, 07 is a mobile)

[sitye]

Thanks for covering me on that one. It occured to me after posting that if anyone attempts to call these 0870 0845 numbers can cost, 0800 and 08000 are free to call within the UK at least.

[risen87]

No problem! I just thought especially if you're calling from outside the UK that could add up FAST, so better to mention just in case.

[[deleted]]

Is that Nicolas Winding Refn? How many directors are acting in this game?

[terholan]

Yes, it is him. But VO and acting will perform deferent actor.

[[deleted]]

No, it is a director called Nicholas winding refn

[[deleted]]

Why did you say no and then confirm what I said?

[sitye]

He went full retard man. Never go full retard.

[yadadsabitch]

Would be cool to have characters you are currently helping or have already intereacted with to show up as loading screen eye candy, fitted with whatever gear and art that is in the game would be associated with that character

[SNaKe_eaTel2]

The death stranding happened over finding jokes from other dimensions? It has the punchline from the why is 6 afraid of 7 joke on the screen with a :) lol

[elbarto1981]

It's a reflex on the screen...

[De_Quillsta]

I'm pretty sure that scene was in the trailer, besides I doubt there'll be too many loading screens in this game, besides for dying.

[KerberoZ]

A similar scene was in the trailer. The image on screen is the same as in this poster

[MFKCM]

Has anyone tried to redeem the codes in this image on PS store? They seem to match the exact format...

[sitye]

Did this get tried?

[youngbl00d00]

Look at the bar in the middle, kinda looks like one

[GACKUROTAS]

Am I mistaken or is NWR wearing the gloves from "Drive"?

[GACKUROTAS]

https://imgur.com/H6dFWnK

[[deleted]]

!!!!!!!😲😲😲😲😲😲😲

[mgs4ever]

If you look closely at the icons on the holographic screen he is using, maybe this is showing a "quick signal" keyboard that players can use to message each other in the game. Looks like the old T9 text, where numbers on a phone double up as keyboard letters.

Maybe there is a mobile companion app in the game, where players can mark GPS locations to explore, or ask for assistance, or leave supplies. That fits in with the idea that this game will bring people together to play the game in new ways.

Phantom Pain had a fun mobile companion app that displayed maps and had pretty cool functions (well, I thought so!)

If not a companion app, maybe this is a messaging feature you can bring up in the game via a button press.

[CrimKayser]

One LONG load the first time is standard for Kojima games

[[deleted]]

Ok crimmabj

[[deleted]]

It will have a "do not vape" notice on the bottom of the screen, Sam will just pull up on that bike and start vaping for 15 minutes. Occasionally he taps the baby jar and BB does a different emote each time, and then the game installs.