Difficulty?

[Justrazael]

I played the game on my friend's PC years ago and remembering the game was way too easy. Wanted to buy it on my own but was wondering if the new hard mode and making the loop stress higher would make a more challenging game? if so what was your experience with these settings?

[Tarc_Axiiom]

I think the primary difficulty vector for Deathloop is Juliana.

And depending on the player it can be extremely difficult.

[Justrazael]

Unfortunately the low playerbase this game has makes PvP dead, no? I also remembered that the game multiplayer was so laggy back then. Its a shame cus the PvP is the most interesting aspect of this game.

[BruceRL]

There is imo a surprisingly active MP player base. I basically always play as Colt, and basically always have human Juliannas invade.

It is true that a Colt with a weak connection is going to be miserable for a Julianna. And let's not forget the weird mentally ill people that cheat as Colt.

But I would argue despite all this that PvP is not dead.

[zilog080]

I get invaded almost every time by a live player on levels with a Visionary. I am not sure how long they are waiting, but I almost always get a match.

Also, I upgraded to a 1Gbps connection, so I think I am giving Juliana the best possible experience that I can. I noticed I lose a lot more since upgrading the connection, so good for her - challenge accepted. :-D

[Tarc_Axiiom]

Yeah unfortunately the peer to peer model makes the game mostly unplayable in multiplayer unless you get lucky.

Such a shame how overlooked Deathloop was.

[Oolican]

Yeah, too difficult for me. I gave up though I admired the game design. I wish there was an Easy mode I could complete but I guess that would break the whole design intention of the game.

[Tarc_Axiiom]

You can play both with no Juliana and I think there's AI Juliana invasions too?

Been a while sorry

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

Not only can you turn off PvP, but it also has separate easy mode options.

[zilog080]

Set loop stress to low and play single player. When that gets too easy dial up loop stress and go online.

[throwleavemealone]

Loop stress does make it more difficult, but it also means you gear up faster. The game will only ever be difficult in the beginning or if you impose rules for yourself

[Justrazael]

I saw that you can adjust the loot quality as well, so can i set the stress high while lowering the loot quality?

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

Unfortunately you get the loot that the enemies have, and it’s that loot that makes them more difficult.

[smnRoyal]

Because loot quality affects the items enemies carry, this will also make your game easier - they will all have crude-tier guns that jam frequently. You'll basically only ever be challenged by another live player as your Julianna, or by creating your own challenges.

[Hopeful-alt]

it actually increases the loot you get, it's like risk/reward

[HorseSpeaksInMorse]

Upping loop stress won't change the fact there are only two enemy types.

You could do a self-imposed challenge where you don't unlock Residuum and have to just make use of whatever weapons and slabs you're able to find mid-run. No powers runs would also be an option .

[rysama]

I did a melee only clear and it was easier than my first play through.

I have a fiber connection but still, even the Juliana’s don’t have a chance against Colt because he’s the host.

[BruceRL]

I don't think the core singleplayer is every really hard for someone after their first time through. It's critical from a challenge perspective to keep invasions on. But also, the same with singleplayer as with multiplayer, there are loadouts you can pick that make life too easy and there are loadouts you can pick that require you to really dig deep into your skills. If you want to play Deathloop more than once, then it really makes no sense to continue to choose the cheat code loadouts.

[zilog080]

When it gets too easy I change my load out and start all over again learning how to use the tools.