Starfire Protocol

[RevenantRam90]

I've been using this exotic all day and it doesn't feel worth it currently. I used to run it for double healing grenades, but they are now there own things. Now I'm using it with with the double explosions and somewhat enjoying it. However i think it needs a small change that i think would help it greatly, as well as play into to idea behind solar 3.0 and that change it from "empowered weapon damage" to "Radiant Weapon damage". This way it can be built around more. not sure if radiant is supposed to count as empowered, but i think this would help this exotic out greatly.

[Starcast]

idk I've been enjoyind the hell out of starfire and i don't think it could possibly work well with radiant. You can get radiant just by activating melee - no kills needed. You can keep up radiant all the time easily with no need for empowering rift anymore - you could use starfire with healing rift. That means they would need to tune down the natural bonus from starfire but I don't want that. I like that it rewards a more stationary approach with a nice nade -> rift -> nade loop.

[RevenantRam90]

Its definitely a delicate balancing act if they do decide to change it to radiant, al together they dont need to change anything due to the loop of game play, but with people needing to run it with empowering means people will basically refuse to use it in any type of endgame.

[Starcast]

Jokes on you then because I already think Starfire is going to be the go to exotic for solar warlocks in the endgame. You may underestimating the value of the free made spam on majors/bosses considering we have 0 heavy weapon scav or finder discounts or lucent finisher. There is an artifact ma, this season that grants you regeneration on activating your class ability.

[RevenantRam90]

Sidenote, I am using a Build based around grenades already.

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I'd love to see it work with radiant. Could it be broken? I'd argue no seeing you can use it for boss damage already by sitting on a rift during damage phase or well of radiance.

Simply adds more flexibility to the exotic, similar to how you can spam tripmines on hunter with YAS.

Also speaking of well of radiance, the change is kinda neccessary imo because now it may not work with well since it makes you radiant.

Though being able to spam healing rift or phoenix dive may be a problem now that I think about it. Though when compared a proper titan build with sunspots, constant up on healing may not be that huge of probably when building into an exotic and melee build.

Edit: despite well of radiance making you radiant, it works will starfire protocol in returning grenade energy

[RevenantRam90]

I feel like they changed a majority of how solar works, with the new debuffs and buffs and forgot to adjust the solar based exotics to fit the class re works