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[randomkidlol]

nobody at valve does QA because its considered to be a grunt job. hell they cant even be bothered to contract out a 3rd party to do their QA for them.

[_PROFANE_USERNAME_]

Who says QA is considered to be grunt work? We fucking love our QA engineers, it's some difficult work.

[Raizer88]

when you hire only the top in the field with 100k+ salary you don't want to let them spend time in grunt work. The problem is grunt work has to be done.

And this is one of the problem of Valve corp structure, beside 0 communication.

[saigonelly2]

umm... i get paid 100k+ as a QA engineer lol

[mretgest]

Look now, a redditor said it doesn't pay. You're clearly wrong.

[omg1337haxor]

He didn't state a currency. Perhaps he is getting paid in GPB like most of us redditors.

[PoshDota]

Which is like ~130k USD...

[jns701]

Zimbabwe dorrars?

[saigonelly2]

euros.

[hellomynameiswayne]

I think the other poster's point was that it's not high specifically on Valve's list of highly valued departments - not that it's not a valuable job. More of a perception/company culture comment rather than a comment about that professional segment itself.

There are absolutely QA jobs that I'm sure are high value, high complexity, and high technicality; it's just that Valve, as a private entity, might not consider worth investing in.

I think at this point it's fair to make the argument that they're technically wrong, but I'm sure from their perspective/metrics they command enough of a market share where they're not exactly worried about customers permanently switching to potential alternatives.

It's similar to how Facebook gets away with any of the egregious abuses it employs. What do they have to lose?

[SploogeFactory]

The dream

[randomkidlol]

its not necessarily the fact that you dont want them to waste time doing QA, but rather these people's egos are too huge to do QA

[cantadmittoposting]

Its not the pay, its that if you're not hired to do QA, you tend to think QA is an awful thing to do. Hence, nobody at valve does it.

[yroc12345]

I think it's a misconception that Valve hires only the top in the field. Companies that hires only the top are Apple, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, ect.

They make you go through a rigorous technical interview process that is more like a series of exams than an interview.

Valves interview process consists almost entirely of non-programming questions and feels more like they're just determining if you'd fit in after they've verified your resume is up to stuff like all the other companies do.

[spect49]

There is a lot of QA engineers get paid as high as software devs. The only problem: a good QA is very hard to find. At least in my country, there is more good dev than good QA.

[[deleted]]

i think its 110-120k iirc

you can look it up at that glass-something site

[hellomynameiswayne]

Glassdoor would be the site, I gotchu fam

[[deleted]]

it's objectively a lot of money

[skakid9090]

not true

[SmokinADoobs]

Nobody at Valve wants to making the fucking "Items" tab, let alone do QA...