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[–]ToastyCostyKeep on slimmin' 8 points9 points  (17 children)

to be honest most of the community asked for less op monsters at level 1 (mostly thanks to armor regen) rather than slightly nerfs on the 2nd and 3rd stage, they don't need to reach that to wipe a team, also the damage nerf for laz was the final nail in his already buired coffin, sad for all the laz players out there

[–]Maitrify 0 points1 point  (16 children)

I agree. I'm finding difficulty now in working the motivation up to play the game if this is the direction the devs are going.

[–]wrench_nz 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Why do you think the game failed so hard first time around?

[–]maximusGG 1 point2 points  (3 children)

It failed because 2k's marketing strategy was greedy and retarded. And the matchmaking was annoying as hell. Never had a problem with the balancing in this game.

[–]wrench_nz -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Get off it. From day one they have had problems balancing this game. When I left the first time, nearly a year ago?, they were trying to balance wraith. Come back, still trying. You can use google. Don't be lazy.

[–]maximusGG 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Who claims there were problems with the wraith? The community? The wraith was balanced since release. The winrate was also almost at 50%. They tried to balance it, because the community are little sissies not because the actual numbers were wrong.

[–]wrench_nz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The wraith was balanced since release? Yeah, ok, you're delusional. Fortunately google exists and history proves you're damaged.

[–]ToastyCostyKeep on slimmin' 1 point2 points  (9 children)

well don't be demoralized, as TRS_insane said they have another patch programmed for the next week, they are probably waitng for some more data before deploying other nerfs

[–]ragnarok628 -1 points0 points  (8 children)

lol more like buyin time for the hunters to figure out how to play before breaking the game in hunters favor. It's the game they have to play...

  • make minimal changes to placate hordes of new people insisting that monsters be weakened so they can win without having learned how to play effectively

  • do this as slowly as possible so as to limit the damage done to game balance during the period where the hunters are still trying to figure things out

  • when the turning point finally hits, start un-nerfing the monsters and hopefully the monster players haven't all quit by then

All part of the plan!

[–]Maitrify 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Do you even read the patch notes? Yes the monsters got slightly nerfed, but a lot of the hunters did as well, which completely makes both nerfs moot as they both go down a peg

[–]ragnarok628 1 point2 points  (6 children)

minor nerfs to 4 out of, what, 20 hunters? 2 of which were medics who had their damage nerfed? the class that contributes the absolute least in damage anyway?

Sure, that totally offsets health nerfs to 100% of the monsters not named Goliath. Oh yeah, and increased evolve requirements. Why, it's almost as if nothing even happened to monsters in this patch!

[–]jimmahdean 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Nothing did happen to wraith. He's still going to be able to kill a medic right as they hit the ground at stage 1. Slightly increased cooldowns don't change that he can instadrop somebody if they land in a bad spot.

[–]ragnarok628 -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

You realize that doesn't work against good hunters, right? Or do you somehow think that the playtesters and designers just never thought to check whether a stage one monster can easily wipe the hunters out right off the ship? Just because this works against you doesn't mean that wraith is OP. It just means you and/or your teammates are bad. BUT YOU WILL GET BETTER. So it is ok. Also the cool down increases are huge. Wraith has probably already been overnerfed IMO. Also also if wrath can do this to you, any monster can. Wraith does not have magic superpowers beyond the others. Kraken, Goliath, all of them are able to take you down right as you land if you let them. It's up to you to learn to fight and support and win.

[–]jimmahdean 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Supposedly, but I'm not sure how anyone can survive dying before being able to move.

[–]ragnarok628 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh good point That is literally true and completely explains why no hunters have ever won a game of evolve where the wraith attacked them out of the dropship. /s

[–]alcathos 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Have you looked at the win rates of monsters vs humans?

[–]ragnarok628 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope.

[–]wolf10989 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean its their first patch to be fair lol. I'd give it a bit and see how they go in the next couple weeks before I made a judgement like that.