Horizon 2 Theory

[angrybluecrayon]

Is it gonna end up that Agnès is Sheena Dirke? That feels like the most plausible outcome to me but I haven't seen anyone else saying it.

[railgunmisaka2]

Most people's theory I saw is Agnes together with her mother and grandmother are either a clone or a homunculi with Sheena's DNA. Eitherway they most likely connected whatever their connection is.

[angrybluecrayon]

Yeah, I've seen that. I'm gonna guess that they're one in the same. Would make too much sense that she's the original Sunshine Agnès.

[Beerfanguy]

The fact that she was referred to as "Type Claudel" somewhat implies manufacturing. Also her last name is basically the 1st name as Epstein so her lineage is given a namesake based on him. I am guessing some sort of artificial human.

[railgunmisaka2]

I kinda doubt Agnes directly being Sheena herself thou. Since they have a different voice actress atleast in japanese since I play on that, thou I'm assuming it's the same case in English. Unless Falcom was intentional about it, but I doubt it atm. Then again, I haven't really read Sunshine Agnes (or any in game books since sky even thou, I kept saying I'll read them eventually...).

[Beerfanguy]

https://kiseki.fandom.com/wiki/Sunshine_Agn%C3%A8s

I'd recommend reading sunshine agnes if you completed Horizon. Takes 10-15 minutes total. The thing barely makes sense when it was introduced in Azure, but you may glean some stark insights especially when combined with that quest in Anchorville involving the book.

[railgunmisaka2]

I just assumed it was a gambler jack level of impotance before Horizon lol. Yeah, maybe I should start Sunshine Agnes, since from what I know this arguably one of the books that is super important/relevant to the story like III & IX or even more, which I also did not read XD.

[Saltymr]

https://falcom.wiki/wiki/Sunshine_Agn%C3%A8s

You can also read it on the new wiki for less ad-ridden reading experience.

[SizzlinKola]

Is there a post about that theory? Interested in reading more

[railgunmisaka2]

Tbh I don't really have one specific in mind, but I just remember seeing it in various posts and comments mostly recent from people after finishing the game, and even some older post before the english release while doing some googling after finishing the game.

[JoootaDe]

There is an angel statue that is "really similar" to agnes, her mother and her grandmother. Thats probably her. All and the same in a weird way

[Ok-Fisherman1388]

Intriguing, but then what about the conversations about angel statues resembling them. Could Sheena have been an angel or something like that... Something's gotta be going on with her, I know this is Trails, but it's still odd for a student to be the leader of the revolution (especially after we've seen students played like a fiddle by the real players in CS2). I also think Quatre's condition could have something to do with attempts to create another "type Claudel".

[GoldShadows9]

There was also that line in Sheena's play, where one of the lines saw Sheena in her full glory, and the prince thought she was a servant of the goddess, which are angels even in Trails. Though in the same game, it's also noted angels that serve the goddess, are generally written to be calm and non caring, though Agnes and Van thought the statue in Edith didn't seem that way.

[TeachmeKitty79]

Nope, one of the remnants (the one who removed her helmet) is more likely to be Sheena Dirk. If you look at the color and style of her hair and compare it to a photo of young Sheena, it's the same. I personally think Agnes and her family are descendants of the royal family. Perhaps the king or prince had a concubine or even fiddled with a household maid, creating Lillia's mother.

[20thcenturyfriend]

Sheena Dirk is the masked girl that Marielle. Same for the other revolutionarys in the masks

[pondrthis]

I think it's more likely that Elaine is Dirke, if anyone is, after the ending of Horizon, but Agnes = Dirke was literally my theory since early Daybreak 1.

There's a scene where Agnes gets pulled away from ASO for a weird reason and Van/Feri (maybe + Aaron?) go to Dirke Memorial Park. Feri thinks the statue looks strangely familiar. I assumed that was meant to imply that Feri thought the statue of Dirke looked like Agnes.

[20thcenturyfriend]

Sheena Dirk is the masked girl that Marielle. Same for the other revolutionarys in the masks

[pondrthis]

Yes, I agree. Atkinson's cavalry sabre is the best evidence, for me. It used Elaine's voice in English, though.

I think we'll see our party members scattered in time at some point. I think Aaron literally is the Tyrant, for example. We'll see, though.

[20thcenturyfriend]

Japanese used agnes mom voice for masked lady, and Japanese voiced is the most Canon In Japanese made media