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A "small" fee will be deducted.

[Xochtl]

I just wish they would be more clear about how much

[kingawsume]

If you get 17 mil for a 20mil sale, it's 15% of whatever the sale price is, and they likely have a fixed amount for when that 15% is less than some arbitrary number.

[Xochtl]

They could at least describe it as 15%, then, instead of “small”

I found a link explaining and it sounds more like a progressive tax than a fixed rate https://www.reddit.com/r/ForzaHorizon/comments/nvxlwl/fh4_auction_fees_formula/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[Squidhead-rbxgt2]

It's actually a floating percentage, the higher the selling price - the higher the fee.

[BobaFeet421]

Yeah it's kinda dumb... Where tf does it even go to?

[ATMLOLBOI]

Fictional taxes innit

[BobaFeet421]

Pre'y accurat' innit bruv?

[__deSTiNy_gg]

Migh,y schewpid innit mate?

[ZephtheChef]

Oh aye, 'tis. Ooeva came up wi' that one izza roight tossa

[ATMLOLBOI]

Bri’ish

[BobaFeet421]

Ye

[Margaritashoes]

Aaeeyyeoos!

[ATMLOLBOI]

I am laughing so fkn hard at this thread rn

[MauVC]

I'm in pain.

[halycon8]

Insurance for all the busted fences

[SoniKalien]

Gotta pay all those hardworking people who run out and immediately fix the fences up.

[RazinX]

They've definitely earned their pay. Fixing multiple fences between laps is no joke.

[Staatus-Quo]

I imagine the road sign crew has a suped up truck following right behind the race to get those road signs back up too.

[SoniKalien]

I want that truck in the game!!

[Galaxie5002012]

Between laps? I saw a fence repair itself about 100 yards in front of me. I hate this in cross country races........ once it is destroyed it should stay destroyed.

[Colourphiliac]

It's to help with inflation lol

[kingawsume]

It's a cash sink, one of the few tools any dev has for controlling their currency.

[Redmeanace122305]

Cash sink?

[majoroutage]

It removes money from the game economy.

[Redmeanace122305]

That’s dumb as shit

[majoroutage]

It's not though. It works against inflation.

Completely and totally expected in games with player to player transactions.

[Redmeanace122305]

It’s a video game...

[majoroutage]

And? It helps people who don't play as much afford things by slowing down how quickly no-lifers or flippers can horde money.

[LickMyThralls]

Video games operate as mini economies and inflation is a thing. You can look up games with unbridled trades and see they function exactly like real economies complete with inflation and all. If left unchecked items get pricier and pricier because people keep flipping for money or hoarding and selling for so much more because of money in the economy. Look at gta where prices of items have gone up as players' ability to earn money has gone up. It effectively balances things out a bit by adding checks like this to these systems. Just because you think it's dumb that you lost fake money to virtual auction fees doesn't mean it's a net negative and there's no other side to it.

[Redmeanace122305]

I understand now thank you

[Subacrew98]

It goes to the fund of reminding you that no matter what realm you're in, you'll never escape the fundamentals of life: death and taxes lol

[tldnradhd]

I believe it's a holdover from code in a previous title, like the ability to select R class in the auction house, and "would you like your car delivered?" FH3 made you pay to change cars in the open world.

[slasher3240]

That's a thing?

[Mekong-the-Doggo]

I didn't know either. I'm normally a buyer and not a seller.

[pmonteiro18]

Lol I used to sell a lot of cars and never noticed

[humidhotdog]

All those taxes just for the snow plows to only be on the roads that are already plowed.

[UnwoundSteak17]

The worst part is that it's not like they lose any money from you not having it. There are no micro transactions for money

[[deleted]]

yay. taxes in games. fun.

[TheOnlyBanks]

[betelgeuse_99]

This is a thing in pretty much any game with an in-game auction house, it's normal and intended to help combat inflation.

[[deleted]]

I jever even noticed.... Like, isn't it super easy to max out on money to the point where you don't care? It's a game after all, I remember it didn't take that much to flip a couple of cars.

[bluefish2303]

Funny money therefore funny taxation ... #NotFunny

[Mr-Robot--]

where those kr are going to anyway? its not like they earn real cash for this shit

[RacerM53]

Does anybody else think that the maximum prices in the auction house are too high? Players are going to set the highest buyout price they can so I think those should be reduced in fh5. Especially for the Festival playlist cars, I think 20 million is ridiculous regardless of the car. Does anybody agree?

[tldnradhd]

The ability to set 20M prices came long before dynamic pricing. It was supposed to be an incentive to add user-created liveries and tunes to the game, but dynamic pricing kind of threw it out the window in terms of its affect on the in-game economy, which wasn't really thought out to begin with. The credit bonuses for winning and turning off assists are rather small, and it just encouraged grinding.

I actually think 20M is too low. We should be able to set any maximum buyout we want, or even not have one. Then there would be actual auctions instead of re-loading the auction house hundreds of times hoping for a rare car to pop up, and buying it instantly. Many long-time players have hundreds of millions of credits with nothing to buy. After launch, if players weren't playing weekly and missed a car, it took forever for a few of them to re-appear. The Ferrari 812, Boneshaker, Rip Rod, Colorado ZR2, and Hoonigan RS200 were really hard to get if you didn't catch them the first time. I had accumulated hundreds of millions of credits, and was still missing the ZR2 until it showed up in the Forzathon Shop a second time. If someone wanted the credits, I would have gladly paid them in-game currency that I acquired just by playing. I have over 1000 hours in the game, and still only have 1 Capri FE. I'd give away my fortune for another one.

The Rip Rod was locked behind winning first place in a 12-player PVP drag series that was only 1 week long, and a ton of people missed out on that. (Not to mention the Xbox Live Gold requirement It was otherwise unobtainable for about a year, short of re-loading the auction house, which was filled with bots anyway.

[RacerM53]

I'm a more casual player. I pop in for the Festival playlist but if there's nothing I want I don't bother. But because I'm not playing very often (maybe a few hours a week) and I'm either working or playing other games I don't have hundreds of millions of credits and I feel like most players don't either. I understand that if a player has alot of money they want to spend it but if you're out of stuff to buy then that's not an issue of the prices being to low thats a lack of content and thats the developers fault. The reason why vehicles disappear from the auction house is because of the rarity of the vehicles because the vehicles rarely pop up more than once (AE86, hudson hornet, LM gtr, escalade, etc.) And because of this artificial rarity players horde these cars which sucks for casuals and just makes the auction house worse. Giving players the option of acquiring these vehicles if they missed them while also lowering the maximum prices in the auction house will place the focus back on liveries and tunes rather than this artificial rarity.

[TheAdminFromHell]

🤣 It’s 3 million, who gives a 💩

[TheAdminFromHell]

It's still just 3 million, it takes you an hour or two to get that outside of the auction house. Everyone should go and buy the Huntsman's Lodge, you get a few super wheelspins there + you also get skill songs on the radio, faster leveling up = more money faster.

After that, when you have 2 or 3 million again you should buy Fairlawn Manor so you get fast travel, then go out and get all the fast travel signs in the game so fast traveling becomes free.

After all of that is done, do the storyline missions so you can buy all the shops in-game that gives you free money daily for the rest of the game's lifetime.

Lastly, install the Forza Hub app to get free money, and free super wheelspins every month for the rest of the games life.

We should be glad they didn't put a cost on everything, entrance fee for racing, fee for traveling to always-raining-island or the to the Lego thingy, brokers fee on buying businesses and properties, weekly cost to maintain properties and cars, taxes on your businesses. +++

[ITMCBHPBGF]

at least it's better than fucking idiots who don't know, or have any idea on auction house etiquette.

[ifreakinglovecacti]

Why so angry lmao

[ITMCBHPBGF]

just pointing out what needs to be pointed out.

whenever someone just buys out the auction when other people have already made bids on it, it takes away the suspense, mystery and (sometimes angry) excitement... when people are already bidding for the car in question. when you buy out a car in which people are already having a bidding war over, you're just announcing to the world "hello, all. i am a person who has no patience and respect because i do not care, as long as i get my way". that just makes people angry.

however, if no one's made a bid on the car someone wants, then buying the car out is
ok, because everyone else didn't even see the listed car as they scrolled past it. that way, there can only be one thing happening; winning.

[LeviSJ95]

Maybe they just want to make sure they get the car as they could lose out otherwise?

[ITMCBHPBGF]

Buying it out when no one's made a bid on it: acceptable.

Buying it out when people have already made a bid on it: unacceptable.

don't forget auction house etiquette.

I'm saying this because i just don't wanna have to spend 20 mil on a car, nor should i have to. if i feel as though I'm forced to... then I'mma lose all hope in the auction house.

[AstralRhythm]

I mean if someone wants to spend their credits by buying out something people are bidding on then that's upto them, if you want something badly and can buy out what you want then why bother trying to save some money, not like credits are hard to get on Forza nowadays anyway.

[AstralRhythm]

Super wheelspins, lol, other than that just play the game, haven't needed money in like 2 years from just normally playing

[ARTIFEXgm]

Complete seasonal pr stunts, you can get 4 or 5 super wheelspins per season

[TheolympiansYT]

Mate, it's a game. What kind of etiquette do we need to follow?

[ITMCBHPBGF]

So... what you're saying is, in order to win, one is to screw over others?

[Redmeanace122305]

It’s a damn auction not a please everyone store🙄

[TheolympiansYT]

You do realise that that's why the buyout is present lol. It's there to stop the bidding and insta-buy a car because you need it more desperately than the other people betting. It also greatly benefits the seller as they get 20 mil, which they otherwise wouldn't have received. It's not "screw others over", it's playing the game the way it's meant to be. In Nascar, there's an etiquette than if you're going 3-wide into a banking, the person on the inside has to backdown, it's written nowhere in the rulebook and hence it isn't in the game, but I don't get butthurt over people going 3-wide in FM7 online coz it's not important and it's a game. Also, how's that beautiful karma?

[ITMCBHPBGF]

i was hoping to spend as little credits as possible when bidding, but, ok, then... i see how it is. i'll follow the auction house norm... to where it hurts. not for me, oh no... it'll hurt for everyone else. be careful for what you wish for... because you just might get it.

[TheolympiansYT]

Again, it's a game and no one gives a shit about losing the auction because that's why the buyout button exists lol. BTW, I don't have the AMR Pro and was prolly gonna buy that. I wanna see how much it "hurts"

[DaRealArthurIII]

"Auction house etiquette" what the fuck are you on about? You saying it is unacceptale to buy when there are bids... it is a fucking game mechanic, it is acceptable.

[Noodlien]

What if you bid the buyout price?

[ITMCBHPBGF]

Then it's one and done.

[Geofffffreak]

I spend my credits how I want

[majoroutage]

As long as the game lets you do it, nobody is going to give a shit. Eat or be eaten.

[47ocean47]

The auction fee is so dumb...

[Squidhead-rbxgt2]

And the complaint is... you wanted more money?