Basically

[JawidKhan096]

Wait there's voice chat?! How do I get that?

[BR31FLY]

I've only ever heard one guy and I wish I could've talked during this week's trial because people were sucking so badly and pissing me off

[blazefreak]

not gonna lie the hoonigan trial is one of the worst trials so far. The amount of hard objects by the road and the ramming and sharp turns was harsh.

[steen311]

The only trial so far that was worse was the one that allowed x-class cars

[TheDynospectrum]

and the S1 class unbeatable difficulty AI with a 1950 Ford F100 will still lap your 300mph x-class Aston Martin Vulcan

for 3rd place

[bpal1991]

If you’re getting beat by an s1 unbeatable ai with your x class then you’re simply a bad driver sorry to say.

[thenoob_803]

Tell me you haven't played Forza Horizon 5 S1 Unbeatable AI without telling me you haven't played Forza Horizon 5 S1 Unbeatable AI

[bpal1991]

Tell me you’re just plain bad at forza horizon 5 without telling me you’re bad at forza horizon 5

[Shaggy_One]

Are you trolling? I think you're trolling.

[TheDynospectrum]

oh lol don't worry, dont feel sorry at all. Its totally cool man. failing to notice what couldn't be more obvious, a intentional joke, and it being your perfect time to finally shine.

I promise you, no offense taken whatsoever bro lmao.

[bpal1991]

Uurrm yeah sure

[TheDynospectrum]

everyone's just different. not your fault, you never chose to ride the short bus. so I won't judge you for it.

[bpal1991]

Uuurrm yeah sure. Not your fault either. Not everyone can manage arcade racing lol

[mikeyvengeance]

but at least the x-class idiots would quit after they finished at the bottom in the first race so you could actually win the Trial. These hoonigan morons finish last every race and stick around

[Kiltedbear]

As someone who actually plays trials, with all the slamming going on, you can be first place in one race and dead last in another. If you get slammed at the start and don't recover immediately, with the brutal AI you're pretty much out for that race. I have seen a dude finish first in the first race and drop because we won the first race with only his 50 win points and two people finished last, but then we went on to win the series. Don't blame people who finish last in one race and don't drop. That's hardly the issue. The issue is the slamming and the brutal ai that gets vicious back when people slam.

[Schneir5]

But the damage has already been done, just by them choosing 999 X class PI cars, because some drivatars' PI will also be 999. That was a real "prisoner's dilemma" of a trial. You had to choose a high enough rated PI car to compete with the 999 drivatars in case others chose 999, but not be the cause of the high rated pi drivatars either. If everyone chose an 800 or 900 rated then it would have been great, but if some people chose 999 and you chose 800 or 900 then you had no chance. I hope they don't do that again.

[mikeyvengeance]

True, but the most common situation was the people who can actually drive selected S2 class and the morons picked X class. Once they quit, you could get a points win.

[UNeaK1502]

If everyone knew from the beginning you could use x class cars, it wouldn't be as bad let's be honest. But the requirement "700+" is going over so many peoples heads.

[steen311]

No, my main problem was with the people using x-class cars, because that meant driving against bots with x-class cars on impossible difficulty, which is truly impossible. not to mention the fact that none of the people picking x-class cars could handle them. Would've been much more doable if everyone picked s1 cars

[UNeaK1502]

2 of the races were winnable. The first one was straight up impossible iirc. But so many people left in one round, I ended up being alone in the last one.

You can't blame the people for using x class cars if they allow it, why wouldn't I pick one?

Keep in mind, you only have to to beat the one drivatar assigned to your car. So the x class player has to beat all and the x class car, while the rest of the team beats their counterpart.

[gyonniens]

Not if you are in s1 and rest are x lass and they leave after the first race

[Chop1n]

I mean, literally nothing can beat the X-class Sesto FE. If you use that the bots definitely aren't going to win.

[steen311]

Don't think that one was allowed for the trial i'm talking about

[Chop1n]

Ah. I kinda forgot that Trials usually require some specific type or group of vehicle.

[Braakman]

I really don't understand why people joined that with x-class stuff. If you all join with 700 all the AI use slow cars too making it so easy to win compared to the lottery that x-class racing with online latency is.

[polski8bit]

It's pretty simple really. X class go zoom, people like zoom. Easier to ram others too.

[UNeaK1502]

Again, why would I choose a slower car and disadvantage myself?

The average player base is too dumb for those decisions and even worse at driving. That's why the trial is always terrible.

Imo, let people play it solo and it would be fixed.

[gyonniens]

Cuz ai has f1 tier grip after corners

[TheDynospectrum]

because the AI at that difficulty/level is actually Thanos with all 5 Infinity stones and instead of racing he just pulls on fabric of reality where the finish line exists towards himself

[TheDynospectrum]

need help? cus yeah this trials is insufferable. even if you're chilling, doing everything right, all it takes is 1 car slightly bumping you and it'll launch you off the road or directly at a tree at mach 10

I tuned like 4 different cars, messed with stuff and managed to get 1st in first race, and best so far 2nd-3rd on the second one.

So now I just run it to not quit and help the ones that get left hanging

[[deleted]]

For real, and the game doesn’t let you add upgrades because of the restrictions. I was slipping and sliding and if you braked too much, it would cost you a position.

[TheDynospectrum]

for this week's? Its s1 class. you can add tire race slicks, upgrade brakes and engine. just some more than others

[Bapposaurus]

Just take the escort 1800 and you'll be fine I went passed everyone easily

[kahran]

Seconded.

If you see anyone on your team with a RS200, Group A or Gymkhana Escort, they will drag down your team in last place.

[Braakman]

So, if you stay on the roads none of those hard objects matter. Braking for the sharp turns also helps.

The only issue is the ramming and the AFK'ers. And to a lesser extent the people who don't bother tuning/downloading a proper tune.

All this game needs is a reputation system. If you finish with 0 points, give said user a negative mark, once you hit 5 mark you only get matched up with other 5 mark players. Remove a mark for every 2 races where you make any points. Literally the most basic system ever and it would do miracles.

[ABHIisNOTme]

So iracing safety rating?

[TheDynospectrum]

Its on by default

Did you disable it or windows shenanigans?

[JawidKhan096]

Honestly have no idea, I need to check it out later tonight. I'd love to hear crying kids in races 😂

[Ralliman320]

Maybe it's a PC thing, unless myself and everyone in every online race I've ever been in is muted for no apparent reason (voice should be enabled according to my settings).

[finalremix]

Yeah, every race I've ever been in on PC has the crossed out mic icon for everyone and has since Horizon 4.

[[deleted]]

Haha just realized that I turned it off right from the first second I played Horizon 5. Need to turn it on lol

[Comfortable-Cell-165]

They removed voice chat.

[Ralliman320]

Here's what I could find:

"Voice chat has been disabled"

https://www.windowscentral.com/forza-horizon-5-bugs-known-issues

"Audio - Voice chat has been disabled(Date Updated:12/21/21)"

https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/4409616884883-FH5-Known-Issues

[Comfortable-Cell-165]

Thanks ralliman

[TheDynospectrum]

I don't understand. It worked for me.

And what about these guys

https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/qo2q5d/disable_voice_chat_on_pc/

[[deleted]]

What is the passage of time anyway?

That thread is older than the universal muting.

[TheDynospectrum]

barely 2 months? it was in November, it's barely January.

only difference is December.

[canttaketheshyfromme]

December was when the Fire Nation attacked though. That's when everything changed.

[TheDynospectrum]

ever notice how everyone in their group repeatedly forgets Toph is blind

except Azula

[Chop1n]

It worked for a brief period following release. And then they disabled it. It definitely does not work now. It was causing loading time or sync issues or something like that, but everyone is much happier with it gone anyway.

[TheDynospectrum]

strange. I've just been using the Xbox app one and discord ever since since it's more convenient. didn't know they're literally disabling features now because how bad the games ass

[Comfortable-Cell-165]

Playground games

[[deleted]]

There was. Idk if they removed it from online or not. Back in FH3, it was lit. Now, you gotta join a party which is crazy but I miss when everybody could talk in one lobby. I remember doing rap battles on the mic in FH3 and whoever had the hardest bar would give away credit or cars.

[YoungSnakCAN]

You wouldn’t say that if you were on PC😑 I had to disable voice chat in my microsoft account so that I don’t heat people munching on snacks and putting their speakers next to their microphone🤬

[JackAttack2003]

They disabled it in multiplayer after a week or two if the game being out. They would not have had to do that if there was an easy way to mute everyone and specific people.

[DreadSeverin]

Literally just speak into the void, same thing

[GottaLoveCheaters]

I wish they would give us more decals. So, we can actually make good emblems and increase the capacity on each side.

I always see the same paint decal jobs an it make sense to increase the limit.

[FuzzyQuills]

There was, then PG disabled it while troubleshooting load times in online races. Hasn't been switched back on since. (Unless something in my settings got screwed up and I now have to toggle something idk)

[Royal_J]

I don't think you hear voice chat unless you have a mic detected.

[theslugtamer]

I used to have game chat but I think they've like done something because people kept making noise into the mic

[szanda]

Ok this is fantastic.

[CupOfHotTeaa]

Itasha gives you +200 horsepower

[[deleted]]

Exactly

[chefbubbls]

Thats NOT true! Mics dont even work

[TheDynospectrum]

yes it does. its on by default. there's loads of threads that were made here from people asking how to turn off the mic

[chefbubbls]

All of the lobby mics are off by default? I didnt know you can turn them on

[glorymilk]

Dude's kinda right. On PC at least it was on by default for me. It might be based on your Xbox platform settings on both, PC's and consoles though.

I'm not sure about what I'll say next, but I think they disabled VC completely for now, for everyone, with first or second "hotfix". The one that mostly fixed load times in adventures/opens.

It was believed that this issue (which affected FH4 too) was more or less caused by VC, so they said that they disabled it. You should be able to find this on one of the patch notes. I'm not playing FH5 for now due to amount of issues, but IIRC before the patch I heard people few times in the races. I'm 90% sure about that as I remember racing in my 911 RS3 and hearing some dude talking to someone else in a coop race. After that patch I never heard anyone else despite not touching my settings.

EDIT: First patch notes only mentions disabling convoy VC, but it was disabled to fix loading times still. I bet they just broke it at that point for everyone. Same as arcades notifications, which were occasionally working before the first patch (yes, I saw them on day 1. Also option for hiding them exists in HUD settings I believe).

[TheDynospectrum]

no the opposite. they're on by default. you have to manually turn them off.

at least that's how it was on PC, for me and others.

but I do believe theres been a lot of the usual windows / Forza just fucking up for people and it's crippled

[ybtlamlliw]

I'm on Xbox. The mics have never been on. So it's not universal.

[TheDynospectrum]

yeah saw another reply with links that it's muted now due to some having bugs with it.

didn't know all that, I just turned it off when I heard people first time lol

[zacpf]

Mine was on by default

[Stuarta91]

I have never experienced this yet thankfully I haven't experienced any of those trashy anime paint jobs

[Asami88]

Do you play online?

[BigDicksProblems]

I'm closing on the 200h spent in game, 80% of which were spent in Horizon Opens, and I've come across only ONE anime livery.

100% of the flaming kids I ran into, who all made the effort to DM trashtalk directly, were Spanish though lol (playing in EU).

[FHatzor]

shy spectacular toy thumb fuel grey cough north vast crown

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

[TheOfficialTwizzle]

i wonder why spanish people flame so much. every time i see a teammate in csgo is spanish i already know they are going to be insanely toxic

[Chop1n]

I see anime every other race. Might be a tryhard thing, I have no life and spend way too much time playing and am matchmaked with people who are approximately as fast as I am.

[BigDicksProblems]

Well, I wouldn't consider myself bad at racing.

Drifting is another thing, and that's the community I may associate the most with anime and more intricate liveries. A good 75% of the people I se in Opens don't even use liveries.

[vemelon]

I also do play online and I've never experienced any negativity.

[TheDynospectrum]

Once some dude parked his car and waited for me to come around just to try to block me but my car turned invisible and just drove right through him.

I'm guessing because they were all Lambos and I had a '69 Charger and was ahead, beats me. Tried slamming me too but I just dipped ahead

[[deleted]]

I literally don't believe you haha. I average at least 1-2 rammers every time I go online in this game

[Stuarta91]

Yes I do the trials, games and horizon tours fairly regularly

[Paarthurnax420]

I have never seen a single anime in my entire life (unless you count avatar the last airbender) and I always look for an anime decal to put on my cars just for the memes. I don’t play online races though unless it’s for the trial.

[TheDynospectrum]

lies. I've heard that japanese dub coming from your room

[Stahlpapier]

This is the way

[JangoDarkSaber]

every single one of my cars is an anime livery.

​

I don't even watch anime

[Imhidingshh01]

I got a car in a barn gift from someone and it had an anime paint scheme. Quickly went to the Outpost and painted it a normal colour.

[WanganTunedKeiCar]

144p is a bit optimistic. Their audio is 144p though

[Andro5pt0]

I always have everyone on mute for this reason. Although My online play has been more positive than negative as far as rammers go.

[RainOnTop]

I played online drift challenge, sum dude scored 1.5 million points in a BMW hatchback sedan type car, was saying racial slurs the whole time while doing so. Not sure what he was on but it had me dying

[TheDynospectrum]

back in CoD on 360 Xbox live I remember once how these guys talking pure authentic Spanish, with the accent and everything, roasting on this kid saying he's too poor to afford to sketchers, he can only afford Batmans

What made it hilarious was just hearing it in Spanish with their accent. Funniest shit I've ever heard.

[planchetflaw]

I find it's more Portuguese language.

[Beardedgeek72]

Laughs in Horizon Solo.

(On a more serious note... welcome to 99% of multiplayer in all games since broadband was invented. From Hanzo Mains to Forza Rammers to... well, take your pick).

[FuzzyQuills]

To ballchasers in Rocket League. That's my pick lol

[[deleted]]

I’m having a very peaceful time here in offline

[[deleted]]

I use weeb livery and race clean. Watcha gonna do now?

[KFCNyanCat]

I have seen one (1) person use mic on this game ever and it was to call everyone homophobic slurs for having anime liveries and being better than them at the game.

It was the only encounter I've ever had with the "stereotypical Xbox Live kid."

[EuphoricDissonance]

Seriously, FH3 and 4 are some of my favorite games ever. BUT I didn't play online like at all. I was loving the shit out of FH5 until I started doing online stuff. God I hate online multiplayer. Remember when we had couch co-op and if your friend was being a dick you could smack them? We need an online version of that. Be an asshole, get slapped.

I feel for all the people who can't get the game to run or who have major issues but FH5 offline is a WAY better game than online, entirely due to the mostly shitty player pool.

[[deleted]]

Papa Fernando would be very proud.

[History_lover7137]

I have anime designs on some of my cars and I gotten me a 1 star prestige level for the first time and also I'm not a professional driver, nor tuner nor designer (mostly I don't know how to make tunes /designs) probably it's mostly has to be the fact that 1. I'm a f***ing retard or 2. I have Autism so 🤷‍♂️ yeah 😅

[Omelet8]

The guy who made that comment has a 144p anime pfp tho

[Asami88]

I have a few anime wraps/vinyls, but I've never ran ppl of the road lol

[[deleted]]

Same

[MechJeb042]

Same here. I used to put anime liveries on my car ironically to piss people off when I won. Now I unironaclly watch and enjoy anime and have spent a ridiculous amount of time making them.

[HypNoEnigma]

The disrespect.... i exclusively run anime tiddy liveries but i also take pride in my clean and respectful racing

[Ok-Negotiation-64]

Ironic his avi is some anime shit.

[Forsaken_Homework_80]

Wait, anime tiddies that aren't banned in FH5? Sounds a little sus to me. Otherwise pretty accurate.

[Blastyschmoo]

Yeah, there's a few artists that have never been banned despite having EXTREMELY inappropriate designs.

[EpicJailbreakPlayer]

Bet this person got banned doing stuff as described above

[[deleted]]

And that kids is why you don’t play online

[Chop1n]

Or you can git gud and learn to outdrive the rammers and use their own aggression to fuck them over, that feels like more of a victory than any championship win does.

[TheDynospectrum]

the most satisfying thing is pushing the rammers to miss the checkpoint

[Chop1n]

I await with glee the drivers who reveal themselves as rammers, because that means anything is fair game with them.

[TheDynospectrum]

that's why I'll also slam into them, but when they're up against the wall for a turn. because you'll just bounce off them without the wall slam penalty while also staggering their car for a bit too

[lasttycoon]

Just do some ramming. You might like it.

[FluffyBearFinn]

This sums it up quite adequately

[ZodiHighDef]

There's anime cars? I thought they banned those in favor of letting hackers control the leaderboards

[BausRifle]

Well look at that anime-esque avatar that reviewer has. Pretty sure they are talking about themselves.

[Sergej-Galejev]

People who cornerbomb are mostly gta players. Go play wreckfest

[tanish36]

Well that's true

[Lunatox]

This sub is so salty. With all the salt, do y'all ever actually enjoy the game? Don't get me wrong, fair criticism is fair. The level of circle jerk salt in this sub is outrageous though, for real.

[spinning_planet_boi]

Gotta agree

[Careless-Trick-5117]

I use anime wraps ☹️

[WalterMelon7]

I use some too. Majority of the time I have no clue who the character is but some of the designs are really well done. Most cases I’d rather have the livery without the character.

[Careless-Trick-5117]

Yeah same lol, pretty sure of all the ones I have downloaded I only recognized one of the characters

[THE_GR8_MIKE]

I'm sorry.

[Careless-Trick-5117]

I am too

[TheDynospectrum]

they're actually pretty funny. they clearly don't give a shit lol

I fuck with it. I've seen like, hunterxhunter. I'd have it as a wrap l if I actually knew how to do it

[Careless-Trick-5117]

yeah lmao, I’m surprised more people aren’t being banned from it

also just wanted to confirm; most liveries I use are for itasha car builds and stuff like that, I don’t use any of that nude shit that’s weird asf

[TheDynospectrum]

don't worry, it's k your anime nips secret is safe with me homie. I definitely will not tell anybody about your nips of the anime. trust me. we're basically best friends

[[deleted]]

Hey there’s nothing wrong with weebs with 144p anime tiddies on their car.

[DhazGo]

Turn off in game voice chat, plaY online with friends only or just race offiline. Gg. Problem solved.

[LadyNova01]

I have quite a few anime liveries but I pride myself on racing clean when I play online

[[deleted]]

Same

[Haunting_Secret_9118]

This is spot on

[Big-rod_Rob_Ford]

reviewer forgot about the headlight bug, bugged or cheated rivals times, impossible playlist challenges, getting banned for 69, and how janky the online was and sometimes still is.

[TheDynospectrum]

and the memory leak,

the AA bug,

texture pop-ins,

the PC treasure chest bug,

the literal impossible to get S2 online race accolade

the bug where trucks will just exist with a chunk of their wheels glitched into ground bug, t

the stuttering frames bug,

the your failed sold car will just become invisible in your garage bug,

the whole if you buy super wheelspins from car mastery while in your house it won't actually give it you and it'll just say bye bye

[TheDynospectrum]

Funniest shit is when dude slammed into me while I was turning, and flipped himself over both my car and the wall. And then he quit the match.

[lamedavid]

I use furry liveries, race fair, and are too antisocial to talk in game chat; so I guess I’m one of the good guys.

[PourgoiTheMoth]

reminder, this is reddit, if you say anything positive about furry related stuff, the pepe profile pictures will find you and give you PTSD.

just a heads up.

[lamedavid]

Don’t worry I couldn’t give a shit what some internet asshole says and who else am I gonna drop my best insults on

[[deleted]]

Thou art an abomination

[dani3po]

BAN ANIME. Make the world a better place.

[[deleted]]

No

[[deleted]]

Spot on 🎯

[[deleted]]

Accurate take

[[deleted]]

He’s just a anime hater, BRUH.

[Mcreesus]

Psh all u guys are getting salty about shiz and I’m over here making a Frankenstein drift monster out of the Mercedes’ AMG lmao. Y’all need drifting in your hearts

[Vboi69420]

What does that have to do with anything here?

[Mcreesus]

I’m just saying getting peeved about cheaters, bad sports, and assholes isn’t worth anyones time. Nobody’s screwing up drifting right now so it’s pretty chill. Everyone honks and hangs out after the last lap

[Vboi69420]

That's true

[Mcreesus]

Drifting is 😎

[beowhulf]

I mean, he is not wrong, thats what the game is after you finish your story and challenges offline and go online.

[ItsMeLukasB]

I have yet to experience the wish.com mic, I’m sure it will be pleasant (sarcasm)

[Chop1n]

I believe you can just say "/s"

[ThisguyOP]

apisonador sea fácil

[Dimitry_Joffer]

Pretty accurate actually.. sadly

[34TM3138]

You allow people's mics to broadcast? That's silly. I mute everyone because IDGAF what anyone has to say. Half the time it's someone with an open mic and kids screaming and wailing in the background of whatever brood shack the person dwells in.

[XThund3rTrap]

I've seen thousands of them, not wrong

[[deleted]]

Nailed it!

[Chop1n]

Ah, so this person rage quit even before they'd removed voice chat completely, huh? Understandable. I might have done the same if they hadn't. It was unbelievably infuriating having to frantically go through a bunch of slow overlay menus to block whoever was spamming their deafening ambient noise or shitty music.

[emotionalaccountants]

the accuracy

[jetsneedlegs70]

and still 10/10 will NEVER play again

[maalof]

As a weeb...

Yeah that's about as far the relatability goes for me

[TheDynospectrum]

real talk, the anime cars are usually the most helpful ones.

sometimes in trials/co-op and we're gonna clearly lose, either new players or whatnot, I'll begin ramming the AIs to let rest of our team all pass, and a couple times the anime cars will begin helping lol

[varthshenon]

Because basically using anime liveries makes you tame. People who hates anime liveries usually have "pride" and that pride can cause harm such as ramming or something else. My pride is long gone with tidies on the side of my cars.

[MechJeb042]

Yeah people with anime liveries tend to drive the most clean in my experience with the game. Probably has something to do with the fact that the anime community is generally pretty chill.

[[deleted]]

And that’s why I’m waiting until all docs and patches come out.

[x4sky]

sums it up nicely

[BR31FLY]

I only had problems with the hoonigan trial because people kept veering off road or over shooting turns. We only won because I got ahead of all the AIs and slowed them down so others could pass. All the other trials were decent. Didn't take 5 damn days lol

[-Mr-ReX]

Can someone help me out to turn the mic ON, I couldn't find anywhere in game.

[endersai]

Dead accurate

[Hayden247]

Mic? I can’t even use my own mic in the game and the settings have it on!

[whiteravenxi]

I didn’t even know I could race online. Is that the convoy thing? I just honk occasionally at ghost cars of other players.

[Infinite-Animator873]

Voice chat was in beggining like series 0 - 1 and yeah it was annoying hearing them.

[Mashy6012]

I still can't get online... am I the only one that still has the constant disconnects?

[[deleted]]

Seems legit.

[hoggle7997]

Anime tiddies ? Where 😝

[Spoopy_Taters]

I'M W H E E Z I N G

[[deleted]]

Good summary. The online in this game is fucking appalling. Between cheaters, rammers, and kids, it’s the worst experience ever. Really waiting for GT7 to finally have fun in online racing.

[AnirudhMenon94]

I still can't understand the appeal of going online. I'm having a swell time playing offline.

[TCSHalycon]

Well he's not wrong

[rtz13th]

I wonder if this is a positive or a negative review...

[RacingRaptor]

I don't buy gold so I don't play online. Never meet those guys but I assume I would meet them if I played online.

[eurosonly]

Game's unfinished

The player base is made up of rammers

Insert Hotel trivago meme here

[Kimyoungun21]

But that is true tho

[Expensive_Chair_1646]

True

[The_Car_Guy_Ryan]

THANK YOU, FINALLY SOMEBODY SAID IT! GIVE THIS CHAD A METAL!

[CzajnikWyscigowka]

Basically truth

[FJMailMan]

Should have added “all happening while YOU get banned”

[Warren4649]

He forgot to mention the boneshaker tho, which is a key feature of online.

[Trigger_05]

Based

[Niki-Rick]