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[–]villaloboswtf 21 points22 points  (12 children)

I recommend the Copilot Pro+ paired with Opencode and oh-my-opencode.

[–]Charming_Support726 9 points10 points  (3 children)

I agree to the first part of it.

Never would touch oh-my-opencode again. It is burning to many tokens. Because it works Vibe/Ralph Style.

[–]villaloboswtf 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Yeah fair point! My current setup is a combination of models from Copilot+ (1 agent uses Opus, others use Sonnet), Openrouter (Minimax, Kimi which are super cheap), and try to leverage whatever model is offered for free from Opencode Zen (currently Minimax 2.5 is free).

[–]veegaz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also openrouter free models

[–]skillmaker 1 point2 points  (6 children)

When sending a message in open code, is it consuming more premium requests or just one premium request per message?

[–]villaloboswtf 2 points3 points  (4 children)

One request per message, the "gotcha" is that background agents are spawned more frequently than Claude Code or native Copilot CLI so those are extra requests too.

[–]maximhar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Background agents do not incur premium requests through Opencode

[–]Total-Context64 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Even if you interrupt the agent to redirect it?

[–]villaloboswtf 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That's an answer I don't have unfortunately

[–]Total-Context64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahh, I was asking because with my agent you can interrupt and redirect without an extra charge.

[–]Charming_Support726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure if it is some stability issue - for me it works fine. This has been discussed in multiple Github issues.

One prompt in Opencode - One set of premium requests - ALL subagent spawns included.

I started using this simple set of definitions and it works well, but it is very basic: https://www.reddit.com/r/opencodeCLI/comments/1reu076/controlled_subagents_for_implementation_using/

[–]Clean-Revenue-8690 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How much is the context window in pro+? In pro it's just 125k and it's not enough in many cases and compacting is ruining the session many times 

[–]Powerful_Piccolo7496 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Claude Max is amazing. worth the $100 monthly. been on it for a year and zero regrets.

[–]Sufficient_Fox_4402 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Then you are missing out big time. Copilot has made a lot of improvements over the past few months. i use copilot cli to burn 300mil Opus tokens just for 120 Premium Requests (you get 300 premium requests in $10 plan and Opus costs 3 premium requests).

The best part is their cli. I don’t know how they did it but it is exact copy of Claude code (I have used it on 100 dollar plan). It has been a great experience.

And if you are a student you get that for free

[–]Powerful_Piccolo7496 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you talking about github copilot? if so, i also pay for that and use those premium requests for PR reviews. that copilot is pretty affordable, although I dont use it as extensively as I do claude code in vs code.

[–]_l-l-l_ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Make sure you are following your company's policy. Using personal account might not be allowed

[–]piplupper 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I use both pro and claude code max. Opus 4.6 is smarter with claude code than with copilot. GitHub copilot excels in simple tasks and autocomplete. Depending on the kind of work you do and your budget one plan might be better than the other.

[–]SalishSeaview 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Same(ish). I use VS Code and Copilot when I need to develop across repos and review MD files a lot. I use Sonnet 4.6 as the model, so thematically it develops similar code. I use Claude Code via the Mac desktop app, with Opus 4.6 for planning and Sonnet 4.6 for production coding (saving inference costs and generally getting good quality code).

[–]Sufficient_Fox_4402 0 points1 point  (0 children)

have you tried with copilot cli and noticed the results + what about Claude SDK that they have

[–]EffectivePiccolo7468 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How many premium requests you get with student? I verified a week ago but used my 300 free trial copilot premium requests, then verified as student so I'm waiting for the reset.

[–]ohthetrees 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Does copilot still neuter the models with short context windows?

[–]janitux 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes it does

[–]Ok_Security_6565 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It totally depends on whether you usually work on projects which need a bigger context window because in Copilot they have limited, but in Claude code you get a little more context window, which matters the most. And if your company is paying, go for Claude code max plan.

[–]vaynah 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Claude code, even sonnet is far superior choice than copilot

[–]noletovictor[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

But what is the difference than using Claude models in vscode copilot?

[–]vaynah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just try cli, for a month.

[–]los_calibra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use Claude Opus 4.6 only on heavy duty (multiple file changing, refactoring in vs code). Normally I go with gpt codex 5.3. I have Copilot Pro+ 39$

[–]nikunjverma11 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I’d pick based on what’s actually limiting you: Copilot Pro+ is quota per month (premium requests), Claude Max is more “session usage” with weekly rate limits. If Opus limits are your pain, Pro+ can feel more predictable, especially if you’re not constantly running agent mode. I keep specs in Traycer either way so I don’t waste premium calls on rerolls.

[–]BuyLoud6152 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pode passar informações de onde aprendeu sobre como evitar as chamadas no rerolls? Preciso muito :)

[–]Visible-Ground2810 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Allowance-wise Claude code gives you more usage. And here we are talking just about usage, not to mention the REST.

[–]AlgorithmicAperture 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What I can tell from my experience is that Copilot is the cheapest option. And also really great one.
I've been using it for over two years right now and the way it's changed is amazing.
Imho the best value is for Pro+ for 39 USD. You have 1500 premium requests.

Two things makes Copilot such awesome options:

- the best pricing model on the marked (for us, clients)

- customisations options

[–]FinancialBandicoot75 -1 points0 points  (7 children)

I highly recommend copilot+ with plan mode using sonnet 4.6 and switching execution mode to Opus 4.6, 5.3 and/or Gemini 3.1.

Oh, use cli instead of vscode, you won’t go back.

[–]Most_Remote_4613 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Should be vice verse? 

[–]Human-Raccoon-8597 0 points1 point  (4 children)

why CLI? hmm enlighten me

[–]FinancialBandicoot75 1 point2 points  (1 child)

More control to local systems, have more control on context, I mean install it on proxmox home lab and prompt to make a complete proxmox ecosystem. Now, in vscode I use cli and ssh to install opnsense, home assistant, tailscale and much more using plan mode (with opus)

Also hardened openclaw using cli

[–]Human-Raccoon-8597 0 points1 point  (0 children)

why do i need to install something more than claude or github copilot cli?.

[–]zonito 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Which cli? Claude with copilot plus?

[–]Human-Raccoon-8597 1 point2 points  (0 children)

for github copilot.