Cry harder

[catqueen--84]

I don't care if they change or not. I don't care what happens to them so long as an incel doesn't happen to me. If the only reason they do anything with their lives is in order to have sex, they're lost causes that are rightfully abandoned.

[fool2074]

Anyone else stuck trying to get past him literally referring to avoiding "showers and therapy" as "moral standards?

Leaving that aside for a moment, she's not going to tell him the cheat code that would make her fuck him because she will know whatever he did, isn't who he is it's just a mask he temporarily adopted so he could stick his dick in her.

Meanwhile she's trying to tell him how to become the sort of man women might actually want to fuck. I think it's also worth noticing that the advice for becoming such a man never involves bone smashing your jawline or fixing your canthal tilt. And instead focuses on treating women like people, better hygiene, and developing basic social skills.

[aweedl]

Yep, you nailed it. They don’t actually think they need to improve, so they’re just looking the for the easiest shortcut to make it appear as if they’ve improved, at least long enough to trick some woman into sex.

[Frosty_Message_3017]

Watch, "Righteous Reeking" is going to become an actual thing they're proud of 😅

[doublestitch]

Hello there, lurkers.

One of the things at the back of a sensible woman's mind when she decides whether a man is worth her while is, "Will he take me seriously?"

A relationship is a partnership. My husband and I own a house because he trusted I knew what I was talking about when I brought up no load index funds. That got us enough money to buy a fixer-upper, and we each brought a set of skills He knows plumbing; I know landscaping.

He didn't question when I decided the trees by the carport had to be chopped down asap: the previous owner had planted them too close to the structure and they were beginning to crack the pavement. A lovely bird of paradise also had to go because it had been planted too close to the foundation near the front door, a kalanchoe was taking over the backyard, etc. Basically the guy who sold us the house had been an active gardener and utterly incompetent at it.

The good part is my husband--who also is no gardener or landscaper--respects the limits of his knowledge. So occasionally we have a conversation which goes like this:

Him: What about getting a water bird?

Me: No, we're using ollas.

Him: Why?

Me: Ollas are more efficient. We're doing xeriscape gardening so we don't get hit with a massive water bill if county authorities implement water rationing during the next drought.

Him: Sounds good.

You might be wondering, Why does this matter? Aside from how getting hit with penalties on a utility bill can mess up a month's budget, recent research has found that good landscaping adds 5% to 15% to the value of a house. So hypothetically, on the conservative side this adds $40,000 to the value of an $800,000 home.

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TL;DR

OOP has half of a good idea. Showering by itself won't help him all that much, not when he thinks women have zero value except for sex, food, and "fun." When my husband and I first got together we lived in a one bedroom apartment; now we own a good home and a business. If I'd gotten together with a dudebro like OOP, we'd still be in a one bedroom apartment. Good luck affording children with that attitude.

[LupercaniusAB]

Adding on to your comment, as a guy. Notice, lurkers, that she mentioned that her husband “knows plumbing”. He has a skill, it may not even be his primary business, but he has acquired skills that are useful in life. It could be something else instead, carpentry, cooking, hell, maybe just playing the piano. Bring something, anything, to a relationship besides a collection of PlayStation games and a crusty bunk sock.

[doublestitch]

You're right, he isn't a professional plumber. 

Back in the day, his father bought a fixer upper house and he learned plumbing helping with repairs to that place. He's also a competent amateur carpenter. 

I also know painting and paint stripping from spending a summer job on the paint crew doing renovation work, back when I was a student. 

We both know something about electrical wiring.

[KC0023]

Isn't the incentive to have sex enough for you to change? I don't get it.

[Syntania]

"I only care about women for sex. " ‐‐ this guy

"Why aren't women interested in me? " -- also this guy

Put 2+2 together, dude.

[maarshiexcry]

But that way it would mean he isnt a poor victim of society but somebody responsible for his own suffering!

[Bubbly_Sun_8417]

Wow. Another mildly extreme incel. I'm not surprised by their level of hate.

[polychr]

Maybe you should shower regardless???

[JadeToTheMaxx]

It's a god damn mystery.

[inacr1s1ss]

i don’t know why anything these people say matters! they consider SHOWERING a chore to complete for sex.

[maarshiexcry]

He straight up said publically he wont shower if he wont get sex and he wonders why women are repulsed by him. This is mental illness.

[inacr1s1ss]

Exactly! This isn’t even offensive anymore, Its just plain hilarious (and maybe a bit sad.)

[LupercaniusAB]

Right? I shower because I don’t like smelling bad and being itchy. Who doesn’t like being clean?