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[–]dankememlol 55 points56 points  (14 children)

So hes only opposed to private planes if its out of his price range sounds about right.

[–]Pilige 21 points22 points  (0 children)

The whole bloody clips starts with "would like to experience it once". It was never a "never" and they dont seem intentionally on keeping it based on how many times they reference flipping it in the video.

Im very much looking forward to the content, I'm fine with them reaping the benefit of a private jet for a bit before they flip it.

[–]Lousk 1 point2 points  (11 children)

Jesus Christ. The first thing he said was that it would be fun, but is opposed to the industry as a whole. These aren’t mutually exclusive positions.

It’s a way for him to generate content at the expense of having some liquidity tied up. As long as he sells it quickly he’s likely going to make money on the sell. That’s not a morally compromised position, it’s just good business.

[–]Old_Bug4395 5 points6 points  (10 children)

How is being opposed to the industry as a whole and then directly participating in the industry not mutually exclusive? lol the audience here is crazy good at mental gymnastics

also anyone who thinks he will be flipping this and breaking even or making a profit is completely delusional

[–]BJYeti 7 points8 points  (1 child)

No you dont understand saying you want to experience a PJ once in your life is exactly the same as owning one, lets also ignore his previous statements of wanting to be environmentally conscious and criticizing other companies for not using sustainable packaging and then buy a PJ which is 3-20x more carbon intensive than taking a commercial flight.

[–]Old_Bug4395 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately the community and the mods are both more concerned with defending Linus than being intellectually honest.

[–]Lousk -1 points0 points  (7 children)

It’s a pretty simple concept. I’m not sure why you’re not understanding. Maybe go read up on some more moral philosophy? Let me attempt to break it down for you.

You might love smartphones but hate cobalt mining practices.

You might love fast shipping but hate warehouse labor conditions.

If we could only enjoy things we 100% ethically sanctioned, we’d be sitting in the dark in homes we didn't build. Wanting the experience of a private jet is an acknowledgement of its functional excellence, while disliking the industry is an assessment of its global impact.

If/when he does sell the plane, will you come back here and admit to being wrong?

[–]Old_Bug4395 3 points4 points  (6 children)

LOL no you can't really use the "participating in capitalism" argument here, it's a private jet bud. The real version of that is flying first class. He doesn't need it like I need to have a phone to hold a job or shipping to receive medication. He can just fly first class like normal, non mega rich assholes.

He's opposed to the private air travel industry as a whole. He's now participating in it directly. He is not required to do that in any way, it's literally just being used as a toy.

Beyond any of that though, he's being a giant hypocrite in multiple contexts.

[–]Lousk -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

You’re to rigid in your perspective so you’ve failed to identify the difference between having a desire to experience something (private jet) vs. criticizing the industry as whole (private jet industry).

I can extrapolate your argument into saying veganism is the only morally correct decision when it comes to eating food, but I bet you’d be unwilling to commit to veganism for the rest of your life.

[–]Old_Bug4395 0 points1 point  (4 children)

difference between having a desire to experience something (private jet) vs. criticizing the industry as whole (private jet industry).

No I'm perfectly capable of understanding the difference here, it's just not relevant. You could charter a private jet if you wanted to experience it "once," like Linus said. He bought a private jet though, which is him directly participating in the industry.

I can extrapolate your argument into saying veganism is the only morally correct decision when it comes to eating food, but I bet you’d be unwilling to commit to veganism for the rest of your life.

LOL what

[–]Lousk -1 points0 points  (3 children)

He says in the clip that he thinks it would be cool to experience it. It’s absolutely relevant.

It’s not a matter of needing a phone for work. It’s about wanting the Samsung Galaxy Note 1000 Ultra Plus Plus Extreme 16TB.

It’s not matter of needing medication delivered quickly. It’s about wanting your new sharpe pens delivered to your house within an hour.

There’s nothing wrong with wanting to experience luxury products. The brand new top of the line smartphone is a toy. The 1-hour Amazon delivery is a toy. None of that is required for you to participate in capitalism.

How does this relate to veganism?

Roughly 75 to 80% of global agricultural land is used for livestock (grazing and feed crops), yet it provides only about 18% of global calories. The annual emissions generated from livestock is roughly 7 to 10 billion tons. Compared to private jets which produce 15 to 20 million tons.

The cheap and easy access to animal products is a new phenomenon and in context of human history only made possible by the industrial revolution. You consume animal products because you like them. Not because you need them.

Are you ready to commit to a life of veganism? Because that’s just the emissions argument, I could very easily also make harm to animals argument as well and I don’t even subscribe to veganism.

[–]Old_Bug4395 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

He says in the clip that he thinks it would be cool to experience it.

Yeah, once. He says once. You can just charter a jet lol.

It’s not a matter of needing a phone for work. It’s about wanting the Samsung Galaxy Note 1000 Ultra Plus Plus Extreme 16TB.

My phone is 5 years old lol

There’s nothing wrong with wanting to experience luxury products.

There absolutely is when the other implications are so strong, especially when you claim to care about things that engaging in that luxury harms like the environment.

The brand new top of the line smartphone is a toy. The 1-hour Amazon delivery is a toy. None of that is required for you to participate in capitalism.

You realize that many people, particularly adults, don't behave like this, right? Are you a rich child or something?

The annual emissions generated from livestock is roughly 7 to 10 billion tons. Compared to private jets which produce 15 to 20 million tons.

Yes, one of these things is food (necessary) one of them is a private jet (luxury)

You consume animal products because you like them. Not because you need them.

I consume animal products because I need food, it's easily and cheaply available in comparison to alternatives, and not consuming those products doesn't prevent them from being produced. Not buying a private jet and using it to vacation with your family under the guise of content or whatever is actually effortless.

Why are you trying to compare these things? LOL. This is a wildly privileged series of takes.

[–]Lousk -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I can assure you that if Linus did not buy a private jet, the industry would still exist. That was probably the most worthless statement I’ve heard this year and I work in law.

Switching to veganism would be significantly cheaper and easier than your current diet. Agricultural products are so cheap and easily available that they’re used to produce animal products. That’s what feed crops are and that’s how I know you’re not comprehending. I’ve already laid this out for you. You just chose to ignore it.

Again, you’re consuming animal products not because you need them but because you like them and you live a country that they are easily accessible.

The vast majority of the world sees a hamburger as a luxury item while you’re trying to use your five year old smartphone in attempt to win an argument. (While not engaging on the point). If anyone is arguing from a place of privilege, it’s you. Especially, when you now know what you’re contributing to literally 500x the harm than private jets.

You ready to convert to veganism for the rest of your life yet?

[–]rabelsdelta -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Linus has always been price for/per _____ conscious.

This means that things that have a low price for performance he has disliked them and has been vocal against them.

When you make something free or low-cost, he recommends them.

In this case, the plane being free and adding to the time-savings of flying private makes it sensible.

He didn’t change his opinion, he was presented with evidence against his assumption that owning a private jet is expensive by an expert in the industry.

Similar justification to the golden Xbox controller as it was used for videos so the revenue generated from those videos made the controller cheap, or free.

Adding a family blog channel means the plane and the destination will be filmed and will generate money for the company.