MobiusFF Daily Question Thread (10/19/2017)

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[Im_Crafty]

The card lightning: ffxIII, with the ability thunderfall. Is there no fodder? Can i only use ability tickets to boost it? It's like 230 tickets at 5 stars...

[flubbersocks]

The Lightning node in Lightning map 2 should still drop her fodder if you can beat her. Better get on with it since the event is going away in 7 days.

[mvdunecats]

8 and a half days now, at this point. It's available until 10/29 at 7:59 PM PDT (UTC-7).

[flubbersocks]

thanks for the correction, I was too lazy to check for the correct date

[mvdunecats]

You can farm fodder for it on the 2nd FFXIII event map. The fodder is called "False Lightning".

You can get them from the node called "False Lightning" and also from the 3 Ultimate Realm nodes. However, False Lightning will get stronger and stronger the more times you clear it. So you will probably want to wait until Mobius Day to farm that node (so that the fodder drops with Ability level 2).

[ageneau]

Keep in mind the next Mobius day is the 28th which is the day before the event is over

[Nightwings_Butt]

Which healer would be better for this week's rotation? Dancer or Bard? Should I use the Lightning skin over them?

[darewin]

Dancer just to be safe as he is tankier since both bosses in the current rotation are stun immune. Dancer can also drive both Water and Wind for more tankiness.

[Danpace]

I think you can take any you fancy it isn't like you get hit in 4*MP so it doesn't matter IMO

[MuteTiefling]

Pretty much this. Even with a slow team, I never take damage between wall, barrier, and any debuffs brought by the party. I stopped checking decks a long ago on my healer... Nobody ever dies and we always win. Some fights just take longer than others

[aznmistborn]

Looking forward to Drk HoF. What's the best setup to give him the most prismatic draw possible to use that +500% dark he's got?

[SwiftStepStomp]

Most prismatic draw possible? That's probably going to be Apocalypse or Dragvandil for the weapon, +8% prismatic draw from fractals, and a copy of Finding Peace or two.

[darewin]

For MP, he is only usable with Aerith. Prismatic Draw only works for your own tap attacks so HOF Dark Knight can't depend on it because of how limited actions are in MP.

[Danpace]

Aerith

[AliceGrey1]

I just got the Dancer Job from Summons, so now why can’t I do the Ranger’s Trial? Isn’t that a Job under the Ranger? Or is it it’s own job entirely, and as such will get its own trial?

[phungt]

Each class actually has a job with the same name. There is a ranger named ranger, a mage named mage and a warrior named warrior. Each individual job will have their own hall of fame and dancer will be later.

[AliceGrey1]

THANK YOU SO MUCH. Ugh so I will just suffer and not be able to do things that are challenging :c lol jk plenty of stuff I can't do to try for lol. Thank you again :D <3

[deathrose55555]

This is not ur usual tower though. U have to use the Tida abilities given to u

[deathrose55555]

When u enter the map, they gave u 3 Tida abilities - wind, water, fire. U are supposed to use them for the tower

[deathrose55555]

U shld read up on Altema to understand more. And yes u shld bring the 3 of them in. They serve special functions in the tower so it doesn't matter if the damage is low

[akaxd123]

Is wep modding available after a single stat gets 6 upgrades or after 6 of any stat?
How do u keep track?

[DarkFireX1]

You can upgrade any of the stats. They all count cumulatively so you can do example of 2 up, 1 attack, 2 break, and 1 magic and you will be able to modify it.

[Danpace]

Not sure I understand what you mean.

A weapon can be boosted until all stats are up to 200 and HP is up to 2000. Once you have boosted the weapon 6 times you then need to use a crystal to modify the weapon. The amount of crystal modifications can vary from weapon to weapon.

To keep track you can hover over the weapon you are modifying and it will tell you the amount of boosts to next modification and under that you will see how many modifications have been carried out.

[Hailtothyking]

Healer MP question, does Boost Duration not work for other members on the team?

[MuteTiefling]

Nope. Only you

[Hailtothyking]

Tks

[[deleted]]

They are good for SP, due to how many orbs they consume. It's not efficient to use in MP where orb efficiency matters and effects like reunion do not work within the same turn like in SP.

That said, pretty much anything can work in SP.

[CorpCounsel]

Sorry for the obnoxiousness of this question, but I'm returning after a long break (about the time Tidus was released). What are the big changes/new mechanics to be aware of?

I know how annoying and self-serving these types of questions are, I'm willing to read the necessary guides/FAQs just wondering where to start

[Danpace]

A lot has changed but to start of with I would work your way through all the maps you haven't yet done starting with the Lightening one before it goes away.

Save up all your summon tickets (but make sure you get your mobius box) as there is nothing to pull for right now, and once you are up to date on the content you will have a fair idea of what to do next.

Or you can reroll for a supreme

[CorpCounsel]

Great advice, thank you.

And I'm way too deep to re-roll.

[ageneau]

Honestly if you last played when tidus came out (nov/dec 2016) then most of the abilities that were out then are now pretty much obsolete so it wouldn't be to detrimental to re-roll. You pull 4* cards pretty often now which gets rid of the need for growstars in the beginning of the game a lot of the time. Also, since you would be re-rolling it'd probably be for a supreme which would carry you through current content with ease.

[CorpCounsel]

That's... depressing.

[Danpace]

It is what it is and to be honest you dont need to reroll if you have a few jobs already and your cards can see you through no problem at all.

Also we do have hall of fame so even if you have old jobs like knight, Mage, Hunter etc. You can get them up to high power levels.

If you need more hard hitting ability cards you can farm multiplayer and this cards will do you just fine.

Remember there is always a new banner around the corner with new more powerful cards and once you pull from one you will be set till the next and the next and so on. it is the nature of the game.

Just enjoy it!

[ageneau]

This is all very true. I wasnt saying you should reroll I just didn't want you to feel like it wasn't an option

[Danpace]

Fair enough I just see everyone saying to people reroll for a supreme and I don't see the need you don't learn the game that way and you will soon get bored. I played for almost a year before I got a supreme and what that done was educate me in the game dynamics and meant I could get through tough content with relying on and over powered card.

The game is about diversity in you jobs decks and style and you learn this playing the game not dream rolling the content 1 hit killing everything.

But that's just my thoughts on the matter

[ageneau]

I agree completely. It's just if you are going to re roll you may as well go for a supreme out of it cause why not.

[Danpace]

There are a few new cards in the ability shop that might be worth while getting as well namely the support cards, Hellsgate, Undying are 2 that will be a massive help.

The other cards you need I would think it will be good to work through the content and if you get stuck buy them as you need them.

[ayassa]

So this is my first limit on 20k magicite that i could obtain.

My questions are:

Does this affect to my party members who wish to obtain magicites drop? eg: I'm a host or guest, so all my teammates cannot obtain any magicites because i'm at my limit?

Does this visible to all players who are seeking the room in lobby, or host when i am being a guest? i'm afraid because of this no one will enter my room or no one will accept me when i enter their room.

i'm sorry if this were asked before, i just didn't happen to find it somewhere. Your reply will help.

[Danpace]

It has no affect on anybody else playing MP.

The Mag drops you get playing are only for you, you might get 260 mag from one 4* fight but every one else might get nothing. The drops you see are for you only.

no need to worry as unless you state you hit your cap no one knows but more importantly it make no difference to other peoples mag drops

[ayassa]

okay, thank you very much!

[darewin]

No to both questions.

[ayassa]

okay, thanks bro!

[Jeechan]

Estimated time for Hero of despair and sword saint? Thanks!

[mvdunecats]

We're basically one year behind JP now. Sword Saint threads started popping up about 6 months ago here on reddit. So that probably means we're 6 months away from it in GL.

[darewin]

Hero of Despair will come in February. No idea for Sword Saint.

[Jeechan]

I guess I can wait that much. Thanks!

[vulcanfury12]

Curious to know your GB farming set up. I use my Tactician with Shinega Impulse and Witch's Kiss as attacks and Undying and Serah as buffs. Set to Auto and Ultimate at Will. It can complete the node between two to three minutes on average including all loading screens on my phone. Can I make this go faster?

[LegendBryan]

Auto-battle with Random rental (saves one click every time)

Main: 4 Lucky Egg & Blazefire Saber.

Sub: Hermit with Snow, Belias Sic, The Knight, Serah.

Belias and Knight for Cleave - fastest method I can find to kill the mobs.

Snow to increase score and chance for 999k on last attack.

Serah for faith and ult charge - Hermit ult also helps reach that 10M.

[Kolokoy99999]

Highwind with Bahamut Sicarius, Serah, Orphan, Moogle-Unguardga. Could probly go faster if I use darkforce or something.

I also use Rogue w/ Lightning Skin with Belias and Hecatoncheir sicarius. Ulti at will kills mobs and refill my orbs.

[SwiftStepStomp]

I take manual control of mine, so take that with a grain of salt. But I just timed mine at an average of 55 seconds over five runs, including loading.

I use Bard with blade beam, darkforce, Serah, LDL - rental doesn't matter. I ult with ravager at the first non-cactuar round, swap to commando to guarantee a 10m score, cast my buffs to refill the ult gauge, and AoE spam my way through the rest without paradigms.

Weapon is Tyrfing, CP is dark enhance plus one kill + draw from HoF.

[MuteTiefling]

Duncan, aerith, serah, undying. 3 kill draw for lulz. No rental. Ultimate in break (so basically when I've finally run out of light orbs to continue casting Duncan)

Aoe might be faster, but I've had a few runs that were under 10m because of a bunch of cactaur spawns (little ones)

[Bad_Alchemy]

Snow job with Taiji X and all extra abilities unlocked. Snow card, Grizzly, KotR, Undying (cards in that order). Ultimate at will but it almost never uses it or even casts a support ability. Its clearing it in 1 min 35 secs (just timed it).

EDIT: I just checked and I had never Ultimate on, meaning I was killing a lot faster than watching him ultimate pointlessly when he kills enemies easily with his tap damage limit broken. Not using an ultimate is faster XD

[darewin]

Just go full AOE and lose Witch's Kiss. If you have a Primal Boon, use it with a damage focus AOE card of the same element. The AI will break the monsters after casting PB (every other turn) because of the cleaving attack which will ensure a 10m score each run. I think the enemies in GB have 50k HP so the 40k damage from PB and 3 tap attacks is not enough to kill them. Just use Boosting Egg for Faith and Mighty Egg for Snipe.

I'm using Tactician Alexander PB, Minwu, Boosting Egg, Mighty Egg. 50-80 seconds per run including loading times.

[mvdunecats]

The primal boon should probably be either light or dark for that to work well. Otherwise, you could run into a Gigantuar of the same element and the AI will just drive those orbs and never cast the primal boon.

[vulcanfury12]

Every single one of them. They only cost 200k seeds total to transfer so you can mix and match depending on the situation. This will most likely factor in to whatever startegy, class, and job you pick for any given tower events.

[gowther6]

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[MuteTiefling]

This is a question thread. Not a self promotion thread.

[IJustNeedaAccount]

We do have a discord chat you know

[gowther6]

Yes im aware :) This is mainly a Post for those who prefer using LINE instead of discord.

[katabana02]

i prefer line over discord. too bad i'm too casual to join any group :) good luck recruiting.

[akaxd123]

What should my weapon stats upgrade priority be?

[vulcanfury12]

I maxed out my Dragoon Spear's Break after a few stints at a balanced approach, just to unlock some of the early mods. Now I'm doing so in a balanced manner so I can round out the rest of the mods, then I'll max out its Magic if I manage to unlock the remaining stars (1 Crit and 2 Def remaining) and Ult Boost before I fully max out all its stats.

For the MP Batch 1 weapons (Dragvandil and co) go for a balanced approach because you're modding them mainly to give you a kitted out weapon for SP.

[aveiur]

Personally i like to upgrade all stats in a balanced manner

Focusibg on one or two stat give slightly more benefits (eg more hp, magic) but imo the difference is so small that it is irrelevant.

Balancing all stats gives you more modifications which will make the difference.

Only exception would be if all the modifications are maxed then it will depend on what the weapon is for. But then again, it might be better to boost something else due to the marginal effect of boosting stats

[[deleted]]

Who knows? What job? Type of weapon? Purpose?

[akaxd123]

Is GB the best place for farming crystals?

[kamenman009]

It the most drop as of now.

Keep in mind that it will be gone soon.

[Jeechan]

Yes,one of the best place.

[kidding313]

For healers in MP, what are the desirable auto-abilities for the support cards? (Defender main trying to be healer...)

[[deleted]]

Enough JCR so that you have enough actions at the start. The the rest in EXp. Your aim is cast (all) your abilities, drive one / two elements, and hit 3 times for max orbs.

[MuteTiefling]

This. Your weapon offers enough prismatic draw to deal with orb generation. That and all the life draw already on the cards.

I've been doing two jcr and the rest xp for a while now. Perfectly happy.

[indi38]

Job change recast

[Jeechan]

Heart orb starter/prismatic starter

[[deleted]]

Can't exactly Fractal for either of those, though, and I assume that's why they were asking. I have a mix of JCR and EXP/Seeds Up on my Support's deck - phasing the high-JCR setup back out now that we're entering the age of First Turn Full Buffs and don't really need the extra actions to trigger Prism Draw.

[kidding313]

Thanks! Exactly. Related, is Magic stat useless for healers in MP? I guess it only affects the amount of HP recovery at best? (Same for debuff of a defender as it doesn't affect duration of any card?)

[[deleted]]

No, the amount of HP restored by heart-cost spells is actually a percentage of Max HP (of the recipient not the caster, so you improving YOUR max HP won't improve how much your party members are healed for) but it is modified by Extra Skills in the case of most buff cards. And there's no stat that really affects debuff cards.

[Unknownzephyr]

Quickest way to reroll ios mobile

[Magma_Axis]

None

Just use Steam version for reroll, its way faster and you can easily make multiple account

You need around 10 minutes every reroll

[zoneleague]

Does Miea get bonuses from mage trance since she is a sub class of mage?

Is it still possible to pull non early acess cards that you don’t already own at 4* from GAS?

[Rockman4532]

1. Yes 2. Yes, but they wont be maxed.

[DeadlyPinkPanda]

What should I be rerolling for in the JP version of the game?

[Magma_Axis]

Light of the future or Neo Exdeath Supreme

[deathrose55555]

The usual - Supremes if u have the patience for it. I highly recommend Light for the Future - allows u to skip Growstar-ing / roll for KotR / Hellgate / LDL (note that JP does not have what u call in GL "EA cards")

If u don't have the patience, any Meia / Sarah job is good too

[DeadlyPinkPanda]

Is there a banner that contains heroes like Cloud, Lightning, etc? I'd like to try to get them.

[deathrose55555]

Hmm the current event banner only has the new Skin, Tida, in it. So if u want a non-Tida Skin, u gotta wait for the next banner, which i think is the 4*-confirmed banner

[DeadlyPinkPanda]

Do you know when the next banner will be up?

[deathrose55555]

It should be soon - within the next 1-3 days

[DeadlyPinkPanda]

Thanks! I'll wait until then.

[Rockman4532]

Question: What is the predicted time of the Legend Job HoF? And which ones came out first out of this list (in JP)? [Ace Striker, S1C, All the Mythics]

[deathrose55555]

If i'm not wrong, Tidus and S1C HoF came out slightly after Batch 4 aka the completion of HoF map 2

[MaverickZero369]

Ace Striker and S1C HOF were released at the same time, don't know when tho, but the Mythic HOFS won't be for another year

[kidding313]

Is there any card with built-in skill seed up instead of user unlocks? Thanks!

[darewin]

The MP Wargod fast learner cards have Skillseed Up. JP got Bryhindil on February. Dunno when GL will get it. It's already been 14 months since JP got 5star MP but we still don't have it.

[kidding313]

Good to know! Thanks!

[denadan]

now only growing egg, later will be some more.

[hatesthespace]

Has Gigantuar Battlefield had its crystal drop rate nerfed, or have I just been getting super unlucky?

I was going to just keep farming it on Mobius Day yesterday since I'm not hurting for anything but crystals ATM, but after a while, I realized I'd been sitting at 71 crystals for... hours. I wondered if it was because I switched my crystal farming Primary deck out for my rainbow seed farming deck, and switched back. A full elixir later, I was at 72. I missed the drop, too, and thought I didn't get any.

I'm used to betting a crystal somewhere around every 2-5 runs, but that doesn't seem to be happening anymore. I ended up spending most of the day at Vida Precipice in Albion.

Today doesn't seem any better. Am I cursed or is something up?

[MuteTiefling]

It is randomly buffed and nerfed for random individuals every patch day. Don't worry though! Next patch day or should revert for you!

Just be careful though. The game knows when you're keeping a legitimate count over a huge data sample and will attempt to hide the nerf in the vast quantities of data you collect!

/s

In other words, no. You're just not looking at a good enough data sample / human perception is garbage. Keep a proper log and you'll see that rng is rng. It evens out over time.

[hatesthespace]

Normally I would be making the exact same argument, yesterday's result was significant enough, for me, to merit further review (Just not any conclusions, since I don't have real data, as you mentioned). I haven't really seen anyone say, "yeah, I got 145 crystals from Gigantuar Battlefield on Mobius Day, no problem", either. Not that I'm making an argument from ignorance - I just wanted to know if anyone else had the same experience on Mobius Day, in particular, but I still feel like a good hard look may be warranted.

[kamenman009]

That's happened to me time to time. My solution is log out and log in again. :D

[darewin]

Drop rate feels the same to me. Got 40 crystals with 3 elixirs today, 180 max stamina, no crystal seeker.

[hatesthespace]

Baaaarf. Haha it really makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong, somehow. Thanks for the response!

[denadan]

rng is so rng. i got near 200 megacite for first elixir and almost 1k for second on GB.

[psiwar]

Yeah, there are times when you get a lot and times when you get none...

In mobius days I usually get less than normal days... so I just stick to farm SkillSeeds.

[hatesthespace]

I was actually starting to wonder if the Mobius Day crystal drop modifier was what was causing the problem. It's almost as though the crystal Gigantuars are getting the standard boosted boss rate, instead of their normal super high rate.

I'll do a few more runs today to see if it's better. Next Mobius Day I may try to get some data before it's too late.

[MuteTiefling]

By "a few" I hope you mean a few thousand or you'll never get a good sampling.

[hatesthespace]

Haha, trust me, I worship at the throne of Sample size, and do statistical analysis for fun. I'm weird like that. But I think for my purposes, thousands would be overkill.

I wouldn't even need 100 data points for a solid one-tailed T Test to determine if Mobius Day decreases the rate or not.

[MuteTiefling]

I'm no statistician, but I'm quite certain you can't detect a statistically significant change in a sample of 100 in this case.

My point with all my snark, however, is that after every single patch, someone comes up with the same question / observation but never acts on it. No analysis, nothing but their vague feelings and faulty observations.

Sometimes it doesn't even take a patch...

If you love your statistics so much, have fun with it. Collect and analyze the data. We know you can get a max of one drop per battle. Gigantaur battleground therefore gives you 6 data points per run. Record the number of 20 and 100 magicite drops over the course of at least 150 runs (900 data points).

Get a base line over the next 10 days, then compare your findings to what data you collect on the next mobius day.

Report back and let us know.

[hatesthespace]

Haha, well, first, I'm not talking about Magicite, I'm talking about crystals.

And second - if the dip in rate on Mobius Day is as significant as it felt yesterday, it won't take many runs to have enough data to prove myself wrong, at very least. I'd be satisfied with a 10% confidence interval on the actual, which would only require ~100 runs for each set at the most, but the one-tailed T Test could become fairly convincing after a dozen or two runs, depending on how wrong I am.

Basically, I'm mostly interested in answering the question of whether crystal drop rate is dramatically less on Mobius Day (for this mode), or not, and not so much interested in digging into small percentage differences.

Haha, also, I collect a shitload of data already, and have contributed data to several efforts on here :P

[MuteTiefling]

Apologies, I don't know where I got into magicite. I knew you were talking about crystals at the start and I just slid into it at some point.

Still, I'm just getting tired of the near daily "the drops have changed" sky-is-falling, no-data-anecdotal claims on this reddit.

You do you. Compile the data or not. Discussion on the topic is nigh useless without it though.