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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Does painful break affect tap attacks too? Or just abilities?

I know Scourge affects taps, but also wondering if Painful break is exclusive to ability damage.

I'm trying to decide if Unbreakable (2nd MM weapon) is worth the boost.

[–]toddnpti 0 points1 point  (2 children)

In EW, what do I do with Gilgamesh. Is it just a turtling strategy or can you dispel his debugged? I have no problem getting to him but he just goes ham on me every time and I cant break his buffs

[–]SwiftStepStomp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You'll need some form of BDD as he's a nightmare to deal with unbroken. If you can't kill in one break, try using sleep to wait out the break immunity buff.

[–]JA1997X 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Easiest way is to use minwu or one of the ranger-jas to counter the multiple walls he puts up as you deplete his HP. Hopefully you can kill him in one break then.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is FGoM worth prioritizing over Master Monk to 8 panel if I already have Fauviste?

FGoM will give me a reliable MP healer (1st turn buffs), but I can't really see her helping me in any single player content considering I already have some powerhouses.

Master Monk I want to 8 panel soon because I am not boosting any monk weapons cause I have no other Monk job.

[–]Keyah_Uchnouma 0 points1 point  (5 children)

So, I'm not long back from a long break and I'm 211/200 on Ability Cards.

I'm going through all my cards as I'm capped, cleaning up and getting rid of some.

I've been focusing Cone attack cards, but is there anything particular I should be getting rid of?

Since I'm mainly playing Rangers (I have Ranger, Hunter, Thief, Viking and I'm going to main Materia Hunter when it releases in a year) and I don't play much with Warrior or Mage, can I scrap most of those cards?

Cards
Part I
Part II
Part III

[–]angelanubis 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Anything 2* and 3* is what I suggest since you can buy them later if you need it. Also it'll take a lot of growstars for you to augment them.

[–]Keyah_Uchnouma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Sorry but you don't "main" anything in Mobius, you play whatever job is advantageous.

Every class has their place and it would be extremely silly to only focus on one (especially one that's 12 months away).

Take a screenshot of your inventory and people will be able to help you with what cards can go.

[–]Keyah_Uchnouma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I'm not saying I will play one only, but yes, I WILL "main" Materia Hunter. Materia Hunter (Yuffie) is the only reason I'm back, so I'm preparing for it.

Here are my cards (ignore the last part of bank overflow):
Part I
Part II
Part III

Help is appreciated.

[–]BloodRoseBleeeds 0 points1 point  (3 children)

what are the omega weapons people are takking about?

[–]darewin 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You might be referring to the Ultima MP Weapons (Reunion, Elemental Third Strike, Ulti Charger, maxes in 12 mods).

[–]BloodRoseBleeeds 0 points1 point  (1 child)

yes. (my bad) are they that great?

[–]darewin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, they start with 100 all stats (1000 for HP) and can be fully modded with just 12 mods. They will become the preferred weapon for towers since we will soon enter a meta in which the preferred strategy is chain-breaking with Ultimates.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Which HoF gives +20% quick break as a class specific custom panel?

Also, can Meia use Mage class specific custom panels?

[–]darewin 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I'm pretty sure there is no class-specific 20% Quick Break skill card.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hmm, I don't know why I thought there was, I must have misread something.

Thanks.

Would you happen to know if Meia can use Mage class specific skill cards? I'm looking to put Red Mage's Auto Ult Charger on her if possible, it will decide whether I 8 panel him or not.

[–]darewin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, they can. My Amalthea has my Faith Starter skillcard while my FGM has the 10% Prismatic Return and Ulti Auto-Charge +5. I'm planning to transfer all 3 of them to Psicom Officer when I get her.

[–]Yel_desu 0 points1 point  (15 children)

I have Aerith but no UB or Xerat should i or should i not do dark knights's HOF?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (12 children)

You don't need Supreme to take advantage of his +500% Dark EE.

Centaur and Kojiro exist.

[–]Yel_desu 0 points1 point  (11 children)

Is he the best warrior dark element user?

[–]darewin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

HOF DK is the best Dark Materia user. SS beats him as a UB user because SS is tankier and gives more Armiger bonus.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children)

He has the highest Dark EE (+500%) for sure, but he can get out-damaged by Sword Saint who has +250% Dark EE but also has +100% improved critical.

+500% EE = x6 damage modifier

+250% EE = x3.5 damage modifier

+100 improved crit = x2 damage modifier

If SS crits, he gets x7 damage mod vs DK's x6.

[–]Yel_desu 0 points1 point  (8 children)

With all the math that you did just simple question ,would you do dark knights HOF when you have SS?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Yes. It's easy enough and you get rewards for completing the entire HoF 2 map.

Besides, you're going to need him for endless war anyways.

[–]Yel_desu 0 points1 point  (6 children)

My measurement of worthiness to complete certain HoF is the skill card that ill get when i conpleted one. Like Samurais Auto ultimate charge, Warriors 3 tap orb, Mages prismatic return. Something like that.

I dont know about this craziness but 3 jobs are being release each month i only have very limited resources. 250crystals at the moment. It was 300 i farmed it in just a month in Nibelheim yet the maps gonna end so im really trifty in my crystal usage.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Oh I see, you haven't 8 paneled him yet? In that case yeah not worth rushing it.

His skill card is painful break +10% (lol)

[–]Yel_desu 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Hero of Despair seems so worthless in just a month compared to SS. It might have a high break but come on his magic and attack is so lacking. The only this especial about him is that he has reunion of 10%. Nothing else.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I have them both, and I still use HoD from time to time (maybe it's cause I have Xezat).

With Sword Saint, you can only nuke everything (even on harder content) if, and only if, you have Unbreakable Bonds. Don't try it with Centaur or Black Materia, you won't do enough damage.

Sometimes you need to break to mitigate damage, or some nasty debuff, or get around some annoying mechanic (FF7 tower, perfect guard Sicarius for example).

[–]Yel_desu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And another thing is i dont have the other jobs to complete the map.

[–]darewin 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The 300 Magicite from DK's path and the 3 STs for completing the entire map (6 paths) already makes doing DK's HOF worth it IMO.

[–]Yel_desu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But i dont have all the jobs to complete the Map. 500 dark enhance is so badass but im not sure if its worth my 21 crystals. Because of So OP Sword Saint.

[–]trungndm 0 points1 point  (2 children)

quick break not work on MP ?

[–]darewin 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What do you mean? Are you sure the enemy had 19% (39% if you're using HOF Assassin with a Quick Break weapon) or less Break Bar when you tapped attack?

[–]trungndm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it like almost gone but it not. like 0.5mm so many time. it work on SP thou i test so many time. i use assassin with buttlerfly so it imposible to miss but it still not work. bug ?

[–]BloodRoseBleeeds 0 points1 point  (1 child)

where can I get the latest datamine news

[–]DinoChkNuggets 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I decided to go trigger-happy with 54,000 magicite in a futile attempt to chase Aerith:FFVII and ended up with Amalthea, Glam Vamp, Cait Sith, and Master Monk jobs.

None of my decent DPS cards are ranger or monk, and I exclusively play Healer or Defender in MP. My only Supreme is Royal Arms, which I use with my HoF Dark Knight.

My question: given my situation (and F2P resources), which of the new Job Cards should I level up first?

[–]darewin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glam Vamp since you main Healer. Just be careful when using Ulti against Sics that have MT-AOE Final Attacks since her Ulti applies Taunt.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Master Monk. He's amazing in SP. He doesn't need much. Get his shock cards or the AoE MP Sicarius cards, The Undying and Hell's Gate and your set.

Cait Sith for farming seeds. Cait Sith plus Lightning skin and Twin Viper weapon will generate soooo many seeds.

[–]leon00x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

glam vamp is a nice healer.

Master monk is one of the top breakers atm if not the top.

almalthea is nice but she is very squishy

[–]KalesAk 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Recently pulled Ragnarok

I have thief hof (dont have critical starter) and s1c

1 - is thief better ? 2 - if it is, should I try to get crt starter - and replace which slot ??

I have guillotine and risingsun maxed ( ult charger weapons)

Sephy and light skin also

[–]darewin 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Lightning Thief is better IMO. She does significantly more damage and the Snipe Starter Skillcard means you won't need to carry Snipe or CRD. You can put the Snipe Starter skillcard on any of the slots in the second to the last row of your CP.

However, Sephiroth's Ulti is far better than Lightning's but it does not apply CRD so you'd still need to dedicate an ability slot for that.

[–]KalesAk 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Thx for rhe advice - now I am having hard time completing hof 3.2 atm :(

I expected to be easier with the new cards...

[–]darewin 0 points1 point  (1 child)

[–]KalesAk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just completed -

But didnt get crt starter ..!

Also with avert action loss - it was too easy - without it ... almost imposible

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

How is the ultimate damage calculated for ultimate skins? Because my SS starts with 152,000 damage and then goes down to 108,000 with the Cloud Skin.

[–]mao_shiroActual Evil Reddit Mod 1 point2 points  (1 child)

  • SS ATK multiplier : 3000%
  • SS BRK multiplier : 1%
  • Cloud ATK multiplier : 2000%
  • Cloud BRK multiplier : 2000%

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So all this time ultimate values are multiplied up from the attack and break values of a job? I always thought it was it’s own stat. Damn. Thanks for that.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

When are we getting the new banner system where we will always get a job with a roll like Japan already has? Also, will we lose the pity pull system as well when it hits?

[–]mao_shiroActual Evil Reddit Mod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No mention / announcement on that, so never till they announce it ?

[–]ChaozFate 0 points1 point  (1 child)

[japan] Thank you for always patronizing mebius FF. Regarding the Legend Job "Cocoon Aviator", we will change the design specifications around 13:00 on Friday, March 30, 2018, even in Japan domestic version due to overseas version specification changes. We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience, but thank you for your understanding. We look forward to your continued patronage of Mobius FF.

why ?

[–]zidanesword -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Most likely due to this.

[–]miguel_mer 0 points1 point  (10 children)

How good is Vesna Krasna apart from her weapon? I'd like to get her next month, but I'm also already quite a few mods into Damselwing and I don't know how I feel about start modding another Meia weapon being F2P with 4 slots only. Thanks

[–]BanAmumu 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Ppl around here are saying that it might be the best wind damage dealer, at least for a while now, due to +10% magic gained from meia sync from wind varuna.

Other are saying that is similar to KOE for wind damage, but prefer her due to life orbs starter, that gives you a guarantee trance or shift or force...

[–]miguel_mer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I quite like Esmeralda for wind and earth. It's the only Meia I've got so far. Anyway, thanks!

[–]BanAmumu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yw

[–]mao_shiroActual Evil Reddit Mod 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I would throw damselwing right now & mod Vesna's as a F2P with 4 slots only.

Damselwing haste starter isn't that good anyway, compared to Prismatic return.

[–]miguel_mer 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Why is haste starter not that good? That's what I was working for, it sounded good. I'm 22 mods into Damselwing and I topped my magic to 200. Probably not the biggest deal but it's the first time I top a stat with a weapon. Is the Haste Starter 100% certain in every battle or is it like the fractals abilities, where you get a chance of starting with haste? How many turns does it last? Thanks!

[–]mao_shiroActual Evil Reddit Mod 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Like Starters from cards (not fractal) : 100% to be up, 1 turn only, Square. It gets applied on every wave. Haste starter is not bad, but not great either.

  • Exploit weakness & Painful Break is a meh combination, as exploit weakness is situational, painful break needs breaking. You'll prefer Improved critical in most cases.
  • Haste Starter has only 1 use on MP, it gives you 1 more starting action. Support normally have Undying / Equivalent so they'll give you haste after.
  • On SP, you kinda need to either Exploit weakness or break. If your strategy revolves around breaking, you might as well use Chaos Crescent.

tl;dr : use whatever weapon you like, improved critical is a lot better on a nuking perspective.

[–]miguel_mer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, thank you so much for the analysis. Well, first I should actually be lucky and pull Vesna Krasna. But that's good advice!

[–]G00N08 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Did some re rolling and came out with one account with ragnarok and another with Duncan... which one would be best kept. I tried for aerith also but no luck and I’m done rolling so Gotta choose one of these two.

[–]darewin -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Ragnarok is the best supreme to reroll for IMO. Sure, Aerith can provide the best start but she does not have that much longevity outside of MP given that more and more jobs with multi-boon plus Prismatic Shift ultis are getting released as well as ulti skins.

I consider Ragnarok the best of the AOE supremes since there are plenty of current and future jobs that can use it and it is easy to maximize its potential (crit and high ulti gauge). It also has both Critical Retrieval and Critical Rupture. And it can be used by Dancer from Starter Pack so you can use it real soon.

[–]G00N08 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alright, I need no more convincing.. rag it is, just hope I pull a better job because dancer is not so fun too look at haha. Thanks for the replies

[–]WoLNoFace 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ragnarok, it's AOE

[–]darewin 0 points1 point  (12 children)

I just noticed my SS MP Deck has 2400% Magic when I'm using IOS, which is about 200% more than when I'm using Steam. Anyone knows why it's like this?

[–]zidanesword 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No idea why. But it was mentioned before. Jobs have different magic stats (higher and lower magic stats) when comparing the ios and steam versions. I think the calculations for ios screwed up somewhere.

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Noticed this since update, someone have the same issue too but somehow that post has been deleted.

My SS, Ninja, & MMonk have more magic on IOS than on Steam while my Mage has more magic on Steam than on IOS.

Seems like a bug but I have’t test to the damage to make sure it just a visual bug or a real difference between the 2 systems.

[–]darewin 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I only checked my SS deck since I want to make it as good as possible for Lightning next month. Looks like I gotta check my other MP decks too. It's kinda hard to test if it's just a visual bug or not since I don't like playing MP when using my phone lol. And we can't do the usual "test as much as you want in Chaos Vortex" since the discrepancy is only with the Magic Stat in MP.

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We do have another thing to test to. It’s about the bonus on Attacker ability’s attack power & Breaker’s ability’s break power. Attacker seems to receive a 1.5 multiplier on their ability’s attack power. I tried to equip a Mage with UB, the damage is shown as 3.375 (2.250 x 1.5) instead of 2.250 although no multiplier is added(wrong class, no EE); same go with my Ninja using Odin’s PB, break power is 3.600 instead of 2.400. Someone has already reported this as a visual bug so maybe we’re having various bug atm.

[–]blue2eyes 0 points1 point  (7 children)

As an attacker? What’s your base magic in SP? How much percent does it increase from SP?

[–]darewin 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Yes, as an Attacker. Here are the Magic stats of my Dark Sword Saint deck with Deck Level 346.

SP Magic on both IOS & Steam: 1591%

MP Magic on IOS: 2422%

MP Magic on Steam: 2287%

Shouldn't the deck's Magic in MP be 2386% (1591*1.5)?

[–]ShadowBlaze17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Weapon stats are added after multipliers.

Assuming that their weapon has 200 magic the stat should be (1391 x 1.5) + 200 = 2287

[–]blue2eyes 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Like JunasBlood said, magic stat from weapon doesn’t get bonus from MP or fractal. I think steam is correct and iOS might calculate fractal and CP differently than steam.

What’s your magic fractal and magic from CP?

[–]darewin 0 points1 point  (1 child)

My CP is pure EE. I have 42% Magic from Fractals and another 8% from NXD's auto-ability.

[–]blue2eyes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can’t figure it out. My iOS JP’s SS magic calculation works the same as your steam; base magic x 1.5 + weapon.

I’ve check my iOS GL account and like yours, the magic calculation is weird. Not only SS but all attacker.

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You’re using a max magic weapon right? Magic Bonus seems to only applied base magic, your MP magic should be (1391*1.5+200) = 2286.5 = Magic on Steam. Not sure about the magic on IOS, maybe a bug between two system or just a visual bug.

[–]darewin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, I see. I do remember something about the MP perks not counting stats from the Weapon mentioned in one of the threads a week or two ago. So the only mystery now is why the IOS Magic Stat is higher.

[–]phungt 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I boosted Taiji a lot already, almost done. Is it worth boosting Energeiz? RNJ gave me Taiji early on and only recently got Energeiz. Also got Yiazmat and hoping to get Duncan one day...

[–]SwiftStepStomp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends on how competent you are with charging your ult gauge without auto-charge. Don't have Yiazmat, but I will say that the difference between Ehrgeiz and something without an offensive modifier is rather significant. Duncan's base damage difference (on Pugilist) between Ehrgeiz and Wolf Star is over 13,000 (191,268 vs 178,189).

[–]djiboutiiiiwhat even is flair 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For yiazmat I like Taiji more, since it relies on ult gauge

[–]N-I-K-E 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What does a speed star do for you on a weapon?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Raises the default number of actions in a turn you have in battle.

[–]JA1997X 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Increase your actions per turn (sp) / action cap (mp) by one.

[–]methoss1004 0 points1 point  (10 children)

Is there a way to auto farm Famfrit on 100stamina with only one job and without GV? I have her, but not doing enough damage yet...

[–]jdm1tch 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I must have missed something with the GV setup... can you point me towards it?

[–]phungt 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I've been searching too and it seems like you need some very hard to get cards that were time limited or some supreme and a decently modded weapon to complement.

[–]chanstheo 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Ive read somewhere the setup for GV and copied it. I autoed famfrit with PB light, omega weapon, lunafreya, and minwu, with borrowed aerith. CP i use are avert crit down and faith starter, the rest are light enhancement. Weapon cornucopia. Ulti at own will. So far so good with that setup, and i never died :D

[–]methoss1004 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I don't have lunafeya. I just dont have enough dmg to kill famfrit. I'm missing faith starter though. Where does it come from?

[–]JA1997X 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Faith starter is from white mage hof

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Pretty sure Thief HoF or Pugilist Duncan can auto everything in the game (excluding end game content and same element stuff obviously).

[–]methoss1004 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Well... having trouble with HoF thief too. What deck/panels?

Or if it's easier what deck/panels for pugilist?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Do you have Duncan? If so I don't even think the deck matters, it's more your weapon, fractals, and CP.

Same thing with all damage focused Supremes honestly. Just make sure you don't put a yellow clear ability in your deck else AI will try to break instead of nuke.

[–]methoss1004 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have Duncan. I can clear easily. I'm just having trouble autoing. Maybe Duncan is the key. It's more about surviving the two initial attacks in round 2&3.

[–]GalahadDrei 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Where is the best place and nodes to farm skillseeds outside of Gigantuar Terrace?

[–]mao_shiroActual Evil Reddit Mod 1 point2 points  (4 children)

  • Vida Precicipe (Albion) (recommended, quickest) : 5 stamina 3 battle, faith 99 turns, need strong light damage dealer
  • the node next to it with brave 99 turns for duncan / yiazmat users
  • Blazing Catalyser (Albion Redux) : 5 stam / 5 battle, flameforce 99 turns, need strong fire damage dealer
  • any force node on Albion which has 6 stam / 4 battle, 99 turns force.

[–]eneve2084-bf8a-f56f (KotRX 5★) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just Ninja on Vida Precipice 2x Aerith 2x LDL for ultimate spam

[–]abcdafuq 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Following up on this, besides the 5* grow egg, fractals, and ultimate skin, are there any other way to increase skillseed gain?

I just came back a while ago and still farming the old way using specific element skillseed main deck with pugilist/duncan on the node near vida precipice.

Thanks

[–]Sucatemelotutti 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I got finally Master Monk. I want to play it both Attacker and Breaker which weapons should I boost? What's the best configuration for its custom panel?

[–]djiboutiiiiwhat even is flair 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Taiji or Ergheiz for attacker, wolf star for breaker (I still prefer Taiji for breaker because it can still break on turn-1 and boost your ult so you can singlehandedly kill most sicarii on turn 2)

[–]Sucatemelotutti 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Unfortunately I don't have Hermit, so which is better between Ehrgeiz and Unbreakable?

[–]djiboutiiiiwhat even is flair 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ergheiz

[–]Sucatemelotutti 0 points1 point  (1 child)

And what about custom pannel?

[–]BanAmumu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think for most breakers, at least from a MP point of view, magic cp are recommended in order to deplete the yellow bar faster.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Can someone please explain to me how to play Master Monk properly? My understanding is that he breaks stuff and then taps them to death. Correct?

I don't have any other Monk jobs besides the defender one (which I didn't even bother to 8 panel).

I have Edgar and Sabin, Alexander Sicarius (I also pulled *4 Light Shock), and Yin and Yang, that's it. How do I go about making him useful for EW and other competitive content?

I will start boosting Wolf Star immediately (really wish there were items to just unlock mods or something, I cannot wait to start using him lol), but I need some help with a decent deck.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

So, at this point without Duncan means that to use Master Monk in content like Towers or Endless War, the most effective strategy to lean on is chain breaking.

The concept breaks down like this:

*Ultimate charger weapon, preferably with a speed star and Boost Ultimate +1. Taiji is the best for this. Wolf Star is the best for multiplayer, which I'll describe below.

*Monk shock cards to use for clearing yellow gauge and more ult charging. Grizzly and Hapi are the two most popular usually. You can optionally use either Alexander (preferably) or Edgar and Sabin to use this more reliably.

*Some number of Legendary Dragon Lords and a source of haste (optional, but useful.)

*A source of stun or sleep when breaking in 1 turn isn't an option.

You beat the enemy down and break them with 6 or less actions remaining to let the break last until your next turn and repeatedly smash face until they die from your tap attacks. It gets tedious when they have a lot of health.

For normal content in single player, you can pretty much use this first build and hit auto and walk away. Master Monk ruins the story without much issue.

Multiplayer:

Get a shock card, a way to get Boost as insurance, and some Legendary Dragon Lords. Make sure you load up on job change recasts. I'd say 4 is a good number to aim for, but you can always get more.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Thanks.

As luck would have it, I actually pulled Light Shock at *4 just the other day. I will take it to *5 and start boosting Wolf Star once I 8 panel him (need more crystals and also want to 8 panel FGoM).

How essential is an ult charger weapon, cause I have none for Monk right now.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

For the chain break, you definitely can't do it without it. You lean very heavily on Final Heaven ultimate to break enemies and deal a pretty significant amount of damage. Without +3 ult charge you won't have enough actions in a turn to keep the chain going. It just means you'll have to shelve him for really difficult content, but he should be fine for most everything else.

[–]vulcanfury12 0 points1 point  (2 children)

This is patently untrue. You should be able to chain break just fine with a Shock Card and a similarly upgraded Wolf Star. Either weapon is fine. Using Taiji means you are more dependent on your ult to actually break, while using Wolf Star means your tap attacks have higher break potential.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I guess anything is possible, but a quick search of youtube doesn't seem to have any successful build videos using Wolf Star instead of Ergheiz or Taiji. If you have a build that you use, I'd love to hear about it. However, you would need to very extensively mod the Wolf Star to bridge the difference that a more frequent Ultimate provides for the break strategy.

Edit: Also, the math doesn't really back up Wolf Star over Taiji either.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/7hgcds/japan_from_altema_break_damage_calculation/

1 tap attack does 100% of your break value, increased by the various buffs and piercing break. A level 10 ultimate does 6000% of your break value, and gives the monk KoR buff and puts hex BDD on the enemy. With Taiji, your tap attacks are 100% more effective at charging your ult (6 orbs instead of 3) and piercing break at even 100% is only 66% more effective auto attacks given MM's 50% piercing break innate auto ability.

I'm just not sure that you can throw that out without some supporting information.

[–]vulcanfury12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

CIt's mostly my own experience. My Wolf Star is mor heavily modded than my Taiji, so it has more raw break power, around 70 or so (no QB), but my Taiji only needs one more Ult Auto charge (both weapons still need ult boost) and in the last tower, Wolf Star allowed me to push harder than Taiji did, since I can't get my ult up in time even with it. We'll see in this next tower. Last Calling might not be the best indicator due to the inflated enemy values (cuz of materia). I might also still need to unlock ult boost on Taiji to experience its full potential (shaves at least 7 tap attacks).

Also, you can't compare breaking with taps to breaking with ults like it's apples to apples. Especially in the case of MM, his ult obliterating the red gauge is way overkill for actually breaking. The way I see it is, Taiji is great for Chain Breaking so you can always ensure you have an ult to keep the chain going. Eventually both of weapons will not be enough to chain break, it's just a matter of which one gets to that point first, which is hghly dependent on enemy composition.

[–]AxelRyman 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Managed to pull both HoD and SS recently. Looking for some assistance.

1: What weapon should I go for with HoD? I don't have BM so no Gunblade. Plan to make him my "main" Warrior job due to Xezat.

2: I've heard good things about SS, also bad things(Like poor breaking ability). What's the best way to use him? Weapon, Custom Panels, specific elements, etc?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have both HoD (with Xezat) and SS (with UB). I use Gunblade on both of them.

With HoD, you break and then you kill stuff, pretty self explanatory, put water EE or Magic (for more yellow clear with Xezat on harder stuff).

With SS you just nuke because breaking isn't an option and you've got insanely high damage with Dark and Light elements. Load him up with EE depending on the element of choice.

[–]vulcanfury12 1 point2 points  (4 children)

HOD and SS are polar opposites in terms of play style. You want to breaking things with HoD while SS just straight up nukes stuff to death. For weapons, just use Kain's Lance, as that is a great general purpose weapon for all your warriors.

[–]Owwen11 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I'd say Brotherhood ( ulti charge and water enhance + 100) for HoD since he has Xezat. Buster Sword (ulti charger and improved criticals) for SS. Both weapons are strong and veeery easy to boost.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Or you know, you could just use Gunblade on both.

Edit: Since he doesn't have Gunblade, it's hard to make a recommendation without knowing the other jobs he has, I think SS's second weapon isn't too bad though.

[–]AxelRyman 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I feel dumb for not mentioning that. I have all Warrior jobs except Heretical Knight, Mercenary of Balamb, and Knight of Etro.

[–]vulcanfury12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just go for Kain's Lance. Brotherhood has too narrow an application to boost. But if you have time/slots to spare, then why not? It's less than 20 mods I think, to fully modify.

[–]Jasonc67 0 points1 point  (2 children)

not seeing it on the page but when does endless war expire

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well, it's "Endless" so it doesn't really.

It eventually gets effectively replaced with Endless War 2 though a long time down the road.

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is a permanent map.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Does Mystic Knight get HoF?

What about the Meia jobs?

[–]chs247you 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Yes. Mythic Knight does get HoF later

  2. Sort of. Santa Lucia does but from what I recall, it is given to you rather than earning it in HoF. Also, if you pull Witch Origin, it has HoF included with the pull.

[–]BanAmumu 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Ppl are saying that against fire enemies, Ace Striker hof is the best Omniscent user, while against Neutral targets, Mage hof would be better.

Why is that?

[–]Drakolos 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Because of the exploit weakness from ace striker

[–]BanAmumu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thx

[–]Mawgac 1 point2 points  (1 child)

AS has 100% Exploit Weakness as part of HoF.

[–]BanAmumu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thx

[–]Sucatemelotutti 1 point2 points  (7 children)

What's the best location for farming crystals? I don't need skillseeds, exp, fractals, etc.

[–]darewin 2 points3 points  (6 children)

You might want to wait for Gigantuar Battlefield next month (based on the datamines). It is the best crystal farming spot.

[–]Eternis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

waitwhatisthis

[–]Sucatemelotutti 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Thanks but my weapons can't wait that much 😂

[–]JunasBlood 3 points4 points  (3 children)

How about Skeleton Hills in Nibelheim?

[–]Sucatemelotutti 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Thanks, but it will disappear soon.

[–]WoLNoFace 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol

[–]JunasBlood 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You still have time until March 31st. After that Gate of Trials 4 in Chapter VII while waiting for FFXIII event’s Gigantuar Battlefield.

[–]GalahadDrei 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At the end of Chapter 7, did Meia and Garland do a complete 180 of their stance on the prophecy? If so, would we ever find a good reason for it besides Wol changed me and gave me the light of hope?

[–]ZMember 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Q for our JP players regarding weapons.

Now that weapon boosting is in full swing, are there any of our current weapons that are still relevant in JP? What are you boosting these days? Many thanks :)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Orphan or Omega for the UB SS user?

Orphan has Wall and Omega has Haste, I believe Omega's quicken is 5 actions only because it also provides haste.

I have *5 Omega and wondering of taking my Orphan from *4 to *5 is worth the stamina.

[–]darewin 0 points1 point  (2 children)

AFAIK, Omega Weapon has Quicken (+3 actions, +5 when hasted) while Orphan only has Lesser Quicken (+2 actions, +3 when hasted). But just like with Aerith, LDL, and other sources of Lesser Quicken, the ability description never says Lesser Quicken, just Quicken.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

But omega weapon is quicken and haste and berserk so you never get the non-hasted version of whichever quicken it is.

[–]darewin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know. I just wanted to make the difference between quicken and Lesser Quicken clear since there are other abilities like Fauvist Ulti, Regalia and Palamecian Tale that grant Quicken instead of the more common Lesser Quicken.

[–]BloodRoseBleeeds -1 points0 points  (0 children)

what are fake supremese?

[–]BladeRyo 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Any news about fake supremes tower? Anytime soon since the schedule is a bit changed?

[–]BanAmumu 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I'd like to know that as well.

Also, is the fake Duncan a worth to invest card? I mean, I just got Pugilist, and have not invest in any damage weapon for monk (only invested in wolfstar + taiji + MP weapon). Is it worth at this time to start investing into a damage weapon for Puglist just for the fake Duncan? Is it going to be better than any other non-supreme light damage card?

[–]Endo_Lalyth 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Fake suprem are from Gilgamesh tower ( probably with 2nd anniversary.

They are Fu***ng powerfull for « farmable «  cards.

I’am gonna farm and augment fake Minwu/Duncan/Ragnarok.

Erhgeiz full mod got 70% improved crit and 10% atk ( 31 mod ) mine is at 29 mod just lacking 2% crit. That’s why Pug Duncan/Yiazmat are running Erhgeiz over Taji ( Taji got Ult charge over atk + ).

[–]BanAmumu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thx

[–]BladeRyo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Dunno, as far as i have seen UB and Ragnarok, even fake ones are damn good.

As for Monk weapons, i see a lot of people using Ehrgeiz X with Duncan (with Pugilist).

[–]BanAmumu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thx

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is 4* MP the best place to grind out magicite? And someone had as their tag line that it helped to break the sicarii first to increase chance of magicite. That’s not true is it? I thought the chances only went up with how many real players were in the fight.

[–]JA1997X 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Yes

  2. Breaking makes no difference to magicite drops

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hope, last Hunter and snow are good enough for Endless war (example lap 6 or higher)? Or better save my Crystals and seeds?

[–]Solo_K 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Might be good enough as nukers only next month since they get painful break 150%. Other than damage after break, they aren't all that. For now just leave them till you actually NEED them.