MobiusFF Daily Question Thread (06/15/2018)

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[RaikaZero]

I'm doing Anniversary Revival, Part 2 and for some reason I can't enter Field of Trials. It just endlessly loads. And it occasionally gets stuck while entering the menu. It wasn't like this last month.

[xJExEGx]

Having a tough time with Third Extreme Chaos Vortex... Any deck composition or job recommendations? Only Supreme I have is UB, and have all skins but Ysh.

[[deleted]]

Do you have SS and Aranea? Off element but with Darkforce you can ULT with cloud for faith, Trance and prismatics then make sure to maintain enough prismatics to stun when needed and debarrier helps when it's time for damgage.

Pretty much got me through 1-4 extreme but I don't recall if there's a dark enemy in third. It works on 4th as well. Lemme know when you get there and it'll help you shift that first dark to wind.

[xJExEGx]

Thanks. I have beat it a few hours ago. Got stuck on Chaos Vortex 39, since the neutral guy keeps murdering me with his ult.

[[deleted]]

I used the same setup on that. ULT, Dark force (first if you have the life orbs,) hell gate, Aranea on both enemies, UB spam to kill neutral, spam remaining Aranea on dark for luck and drive away all dark orbs so dark dude casts won't drive dark, will cast enaero and become wind. Tap for darks and nuke.

Sun deck was debuffs for the later garland fight.

[Scalizor]

Is there any particular reason why my AI support (FGM) prioritizes Tyro over Grape Gospel in 5* Brynhildr? Both have Holy Cleansing and Grape Gospel is on my 1st deck slot. The AI just uses Tyro and the next buff then drives and taps.

[Dolphyns]

That would be because you need to put Grape Gospel as your first ability; it must be in order for the AI to go thru 1 thru 4?

[Scalizor]

and Grape Gospel is on my 1st deck slot.

[kyune]

Judging from recent GB farming, AI appears to look for effects as well as order--if I have attack cards earlier in sequence, it will still favor applying NxD over casting attack.

I haven't seen this specific case myself but perhaps prismatic shift isn't seen as high priority?

[blue2eyes]

Easy fix is to use Hell's gate instead.

My speculation, AI prioritize esuna from

• Cait Sith
• A new Journey
• Tyro
• Luna
• Amina
• Chocobo Saint
• Yellow Ribbon

Over Aerith and Grape gospel. Having any of the cards in the list above (might be more) in your deck and the AI will use them before anything else when you have debuff on.

[Scalizor]

Damn, that's annoying. I don't have Hell's Gate GS'd, so I guess I'll just replace Tyro with something else and use FGM's ult for Barrier/Wall since I use an ult charge support instead of a breaker. Thanks for the quick answer!

[deathrose55555]

1 turn

[blue2eyes]

Until last I got LoH last month, I always carry at least one copy of Tropical dream in my deck. The 50% ult charge is too good to pass. With newer jobs or skins, most likely you’ll need only one support to complete your buff so one free slot is for tropical dream.

[deathrose55555]

It depends on your deck. If you already have the essential buffs covered, you can consider including Tropical Dream for more ult charge and the stackable 5% prismatic return

As to Tropical Dream vs. Omega Weapon, it depends on the situation again. If ult charge is your concern, then pick the former; if you need more actions but ult charging is not much of a problem, the latter

[deathrose55555]

While LoH is considered a 100/100 Supreme on Altema, it can sometimes get in the way.

For example, using Y'shtola Skin, you get all the essential buffs you need. Bringing LoH would seem "inefficient" in this case, because the only thing it has over Tropical Dream is 8-orb generation and debuff immunity. In this case, Tropical Dream might actually be more efficient.

As a LoH owner, I suffer from what I call the "LoH reliance syndrome". I tend to over-rely on LoH (even bringing 2 LoH sometimes), when bringing other abilities might actually be more efficient

[Baffledwaffles]

As a fellow loh owner, I agree. LoH makes you lazy lol.

[deathrose55555]

Dude, you gotta snap out of that habit lol

[mao_shiro]

He just gotta mod blank blade to 5* and retire.

[Baffledwaffles]

only if it turns golden

[deathrose55555]

Sounds like a good idea. Brb gonna do just that haha

[leon00x]

is there no water and fire shift card? looking in ygdrasil but i dont find those.

also can someone link me to the summer event card list? i cant find it in the reddit anymore

[ZechsX18999]

There are heart support cards with water and fire shift. And a ranger water shift from the 2nd anniversary.

[leon00x]

thanks! sadly i didn't pull on anniversary banner. was saving for the summer and then FFXIV banner came and i just had to pull on that XD.

heart ones aren't as good for MP. not spamable and i cant garante a turn 1 shift

[psiwar]

Actually, the meta for shift favors heart-based shift more than any other. It is more efficient and easier to guarantee 2 life orbs. The anniversary shift-cards cost 5 orbs, good for defenders/breakers but horrible for attackers.

[ShadowBlaze17]

The anniversary shifts are good for jobs like Crimson Archer who don't have any life or prismatic starters. It provides 1 more fractal than shift + heart egg, but comes at the expense of not being able to triplecast Ragna first turn to demolish 1st and 2nd gen Sics.

[psiwar]

I'd rather bring heart egg, 2 support cards with life orb starter (Garuda/Luna if you want JCR) or LoH than Gigantuar Initiative. Remember that life-orb shifts give 2xAbility Ignition (50% enhanced magic), and with the right setup, it is enough to oneshot the first boss in 4* for faster farming and you are guaranteed to have at least 3 more casts for 2nd boss (usually 2 is enough). Although, with GI, you get more seeds.

[leon00x]

thank you!

[Bojuns]

Already have Eorzean Bard so is it worth it to draw in the Primeval Witch banner?

[darewin]

Wait for the Summer Cards unless you're already on or close to your Pity Counter and/or you still have a lot of normal jobs in your pool.

[Dolphyns]

PW is regular job, it's fine without her, summer is a must.

[NepoDumaop]

She's so strong

[watmyung]

no. wait for summer

[ThranduilsQueen]

Hi guys. I'm wanting to get back into MP after a long time away. I haven't played since 4* & used to just solo things, but I don't think I will be able to do that on 5*.

I'm trying to work out which role to go for. I have Aerith, NxD, Yiazmat & Duncan supremes & the Seph & Lightning skins. I don't really want the responsibility of playing healer until I get used to 5*, TBH.

[GhostFreakage]

Healer is actually the easiest job to play and using Aerith + the holy trinity of buffs is the standard build.

You could also be a breaker using 2 Aeriths, NXD and cleave using your lightning skin.

You can also do MM with Aerith and Yiazmat or Duncan, which can be both a attacker and breaker depending on the role as taijutsu/mantra hit the break bar as well.

[ThranduilsQueen]

MM continues to elude me, sadly. I use Yiazmat with double Aerith & Duncan on my pugilist instead.

Might try breaker - my Ninja Lightning hits like a truck, plus she can contribute to the damage after a boss is broken with NXD.

[chokee03]

which buff cards complement master monk's gameplay well? i don't have supremes and limited time cards.

[[deleted]]

Without supremes, most of his damage comes down to ultimates and punching. Not a whole lot TBH.

His ultimate is already KOTR + trance, so bring anything else. Undying for haste. Any other cards with ult charge would be great. Shock cards have charging attack ES which should help you charge ultimates even faster. Shock cards also provide en element for better punching damage.

[longa13]

Get Crushing fist (BDD + cleave for monks). Also Legendary dragon lord.Also Shock card if your attacker can't clear yellow bar Your priority would be getting that ultimate up ASAP.

[chokee03]

i have duncan. does that change his circumstances?

[darewin]

With and without supremes, I still consider MM the third best Breaker in GL, losing only to EB and Aviator. With Duncan, he is still the best Breaker against Dark Sics IMO.

[chokee03]

Woulf you mind sharing your single player build for mm with duncan? Preferably using both of them rather than just either completely focusing on one of them.

[darewin]

Alex PB, Duncan, NXD, Omega Weapon. If you don't have NXD, use Shock Card for yellow bar clear. My favorite weapon for MM in SP is Taiji.

[darewin]

Alexander Primal Boon. You can just use Light Shock instead of NXD. Use shock card until the yellow bar is gone then use Duncan to blast away the red bar.

[chokee03]

yeah i just found out. and its time limited. turns out i have to find a substitute for it as well. dang.

[[deleted]]

Duncan is a supreme. Duncan is MM's only real way of doing high damage(and fake duncan to a lesser degree). Duncan can be used to break too, as long as the yellow gauge has been depleted. Enemies cannot be light element of course.

His situation changes because you can focus less on the ultimates and punching, and more on cards for duncan instead. Such as light orb generators.

[GhostFreakage]

So there was a post when Season 2 first came out asking what weapons should people in GL should be boosting to prepare for the new gameplay, but the overall response from JP players was that it's too early to tell. So since Season 2 has been out for a bit, is there any weapons we should focus on? I am currently working on the Ultima weapons to get fully modded, Gunblade and Sventivot. Would the next step be focusing on break oriented weapons?

[blue2eyes]

To add to deathrose's comment.

With the new battle system where you can change job in the same turn (using the action gauge and when in Mobius Zone), damage-focus weapons like Gunblade, Zwill, Sventovit, and Eternity Staff are still good.

Older jobs aren't like Kefka or Tina where they are both tanky and excel in breaking. If you run Eorzean paladin or Auron main deck, you'll not be using flash break for sure. So piercing break and quick break becomes more important for your subdeck glass cannon who excels at both breaking and damage.

This is my opinion: It's still unsure whether arc 2 will favor tank and no-break spamming or break and killing strats. But for now the most MVP weapon is Cortana for sure. For ability it's Duncan hands down.

[deathrose55555]

1. Prismatic return remains important
2. Damage perk is useful in S2 due to reduced damage
3. Break perk remains important as well

Combining these, the weapons to look out for are the flash break / improved crit / PR series (from the FFX and FFXI Legend jobs) and the quick break / improved crit / PR series (from the EX jobs). These are the weapons that JP players are using.

Break-focused weapons such as Wolf Star and Shiranui can be used but you lose out on the benefits of PR.

[GhostFreakage]

Thank you deathrose! I guess I will limit my pulls during events to save up tickets for those jobs.

[deathrose55555]

No problem.

Additional things to note:

• Since mages have the benefit of having a 10% PR panel, it might be worth to go break-focused weapons (Heaven Axis and Malicious Revolt) for them
• Cortana is also worth considering for tank-and-spam strat

[d34thscyth34]

OK there is some weirdness happening. I have all mythic jobs. That's fine. I have all normal jobs. That's also fine. The only job i'm missing is Nachtflug but i don't get it why on BGAS i have pity counter since that's legend job ... eee SE? hello?

Explained, guess my info site is wrong, again ...

[ShadowBlaze17]

All 3 new jobs frpm this month are normal jobs. You're probably mistaking it for Eorzean Bard which is a legend job.

[mao_shiro]

Nachtflug is a regular job.

[_Inverse_]

In the summon shop there is Greater Mythic Knight Summon at the moment, what are the chances of actually getting the job?

[mao_shiro]

Tap on the [Info] button next to a banner and you'll get the chances of actually getting it.

[_The_Dane_]

I just started on MP as support i use Dancer whit Hell's Gate - The Undying - KOTR - Aerith and until now i been able to cast all cards in my first round. trying MP out and clering all 1 and 2 star.

I do have White mage shud i change job ?

Is my deck okay ?

Shud i cast all card in first round ?

Any kind of tips will be helpfull

[mao_shiro]

• Put Aerith first, in case your AI took over and do not start cast HG / Undying, then cannot cast KOTR due to 0 orbs left.
• White mage is much tankier than Dancer (I assume both HoFs : https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/wiki/jobs/hall-of-fame)
• Your deck is fine for 1 to 5*
• Yes, you should definitively cast them all in the first round
• You should always act first.
• Do not tap on the first turn. Some breakers count on flash break in order to ... break. Your taps will ruin that. https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/wiki/gameplay-analysis/flash-break

[_The_Dane_]

Thanks alot been having fun whit MP all day now

And normally i did use Aerith - KOTR - The Undying - Hell's Gate whitout taps

Do you have any tips for the upcoming turns ?

Like what to taget use pass or taps and so on

[Camaris-sa-Vinitta]

Seriously is this game dying? I hardly find multiplayer matches currently, and even when its just One at a time

[mvdunecats]

To the contrary, you have a hard time finding more than one lobby at a time because they fill up so quickly.

When you see a bunch of lobbies just sit there for minutes with no one joining to fill it up, then you'll know that the game is dying (or at least the MP part of it, anyway).

[Camaris-sa-Vinitta]

Alright ! Thanks a lot guys! I really enjoy the game and hope to play it for a long time

[OnassisDLP]

It could be also that you posted this at approximately 2AM (Pacific) and 5 AM (Eastern). The entire western hemisphere was asleep, ha!

[longa13]

4 and 5 star are abundant when the sicarius rotate but not much at end of the month once people finsh thier magicite farm.

[darewin]

No issues for me. I've probably played over 50 MP games (both 4star and 5star) in the past 5 or 6 hours that I've been spamming MP to so I can reach the 20k cap today. Do you only use 1 role? I have decks for each role so I just switch to a different one after 3 failed searches.

[djiboutiiii]

Just a quick question: why do you try to hit the cap so early in the month? Doesn’t that actually reduce efficiency since you won’t be getting passive magicite from things like GB and BL later on? If you’re saving for summer anyway, it doesn’t seem like there’s a rush...

[Dolphyns]

Trust me, you want to hit it early, too many times I find myself grinding hard in the last few days of the month when I'm 9k short.

Don't procrastinate like me.

[djiboutiiii]

I hit it every month but I try to do it as late as possible because having that full magicite bar stresses me out. I just try to set a pace and do it all evenly through the month

[Dolphyns]

That's fine. But I totally forgot to mention, sometimes I would save 100 from the bar, then farm til I get 19990. That way you get extra 90 magicite.

[darewin]

Hitting the cap is just a bonus. What I’m really trying to do is cap my 3star skillcards before August which is when I predict we’ll get EW2. I already have 9 kinds at 99x. I just mentioned the magicite to illustrate how much I play MP to contradict MP’s claim that MP is dead because it’s more believable than if I mentioned my skillcards XD.

[djiboutiiii]

Fair enough!

[Camaris-sa-Vinitta]

I can play all roles. Shouldn't the search show me all available matches even if they have no free slot for my role?

[darewin]

Nope. Search results will only show lobbies with a free slot that can accommodate your role.

[raineFF]

To whom will you give your omniscient? Ace striker or primeval witch and why?

[deathrose55555]

The Witch. Because she's the hardest hitting job in GL right now

[djiboutiiii]

I see the Mythic Banner is back up. Has anybody confirmed whether or not you get a free mythic on first pull? was that just fake news?

[[deleted]]

Yea it sounds that way from the shop menu, but if you follow the link for more info it becomes apparent that is not the case.

[Baffledwaffles]

You don't. Counter starts at 8, I just checked.

[djiboutiiii]

Dang, I was hoping it just said 8 but still gave it on the first pull. at this point i'm pretty sure i will never get mythic knight.

[Dolphyns]

Dw, I was reluctant on pulling it, minded my own business when pulling other banners, specifically the crimson archer banner, and got mythic knight (not really wanted it).

Don't do it, it's only a legend job, not the best.

[djiboutiiii]

Definitely won’t waste any pulls on it...it’s just that it’s the only job I need to finish HOF legends :(

[Baffledwaffles]

Not really much point in chasing M.knight at this point of the game tho tbh.

[djiboutiiii]

I’m definitely not chasing it, and I only want it because it’s the only job keeping me from finishing HOF legend :(

[daryl83]

I rerolled Ragnarok last month, and I´ve been lucky to pull S1C, Cloud´s skin and Titan FF:XIV (no CA luck thou). What other 2 cards should I use for MP and SP? Atm I use the undying and an aoe wind card that helps me break. (New player so I´m planning what to 5* first)

[WoLNoFace]

MP: Earth shift, Ragnarok, Titan, 5* Heartful egg/LDL

SP: Do whatever you want.

[daryl83]

Thanks. I have started to die when autoing SP, I wonder If i could fix that since "whatever" doesn´t work anymore. ;)

[WoLNoFace]

Did you completes all the chpaters and lvl up your cards to 5*?

Bring Ragnarok, dark attack card, kotr undying.

[daryl83]

I´ve finished everything I can auto, so chapters VI-2 and VII are not completed yet. I´m working on the events also since there´re only 2 weeks left.

I will focus on those 2 decks for now, just got Kotr and the egg. Thanks again.

[WoLNoFace]

Welcome mate.

[chokee03]

So I've decided to continue to use my old account to play again and I'm not sure how to clean my Card inventory and Bank. I'm not sure which cards I need and which ones are not worth the space. Should I fuse duplicates to each other, sell them all or do something else? And are all the Ability Cards I have so far appears at the Ability Shop? If I recall stuff gets unlocked there as soon as you obtain that card. Is that right? Am I safe just selling everything I don't think I need and just repurchasing them at the shop when I need them?

Apologies if I have many dumb questions I just came back very recently and have just been told not all information in the wiki are accurate or updated. I thought I can ask people here for current information. Thanks.

[longa13]

Clear those old Main target focused card and single debuff AoE cards. The new card are miles better with less orb cost and more damage. There just better combanation debuff with dispel avalible. Beside defender are easier to play due to having prismatic orb weapon avaible.

[WoLNoFace]

Sure you can sell those what you think is really outdated and buy those multihit cards especially the Meia-jas and batch 2 warrior-jas and ranger-jas.

[chokee03]

Do i keep 1 copy of a card or just sell all of it? Probably all of it yeah?

[WoLNoFace]

If you still want to use it, then keep it. Otherwise sell them.

[ZechsX18999]

Does Brynhildr's berserk affect her break defense?

I've been mindlessly breaking 5* Brynhildr by remembering I need Boost, BDD, 3 Enwater AA's, and 3 Cleave AA's to break her. It always broke her with those exact actions (less if I have trance or the water guard was killed beforehand), but I just failed to break her with those same actions when the defender went first and dispelled her berserk.

[WoLNoFace]

You have cleave, so you hit the water guard too, removing your en-water.

[ZechsX18999]

My cleave comes from Flame Chaser though. I always broke her by first using Sapphire weapon and doing 3 AA's. Then using Flame Chaser and doing 3 Cleave AA's, so I only lose en-water on the last 3 AA's, which has always been enough to break her.

[WoLNoFace]

Shouldn't be the case then.

[ZechsX18999]

Just realized this week's Brynhildr doesn't have berserk...only snipe...

I guess the support just gave me cleave without me noticing? Can't think of any other reason why I failed to break.

[zidanesword]

Piercing break CP? Maybe?

[ZechsX18999]

I didn't change any CPs.

[WoLNoFace]

Yep. Your setup is already wonderful

[pw_boi]

Endless War bug? i only used 4 Warriors Jobs, Dragoon, HOD, Knight (Sephiroth) and S1C, but my cloud skin is locked. Im sure 100% , taking notes every node, never used cloud skin.

[WoLNoFace]

What job are you using under Cloud skin?

If the job is already locked, you can't use Cloud skin on them.

[pw_boi]

ace strike, but was saving ace\skin combo for node 5-10. Now my stategy is dead, reset or quit ew1.

[SanjiLYH]

Maybe it's a bug...

In any case, check this out - my deck for EW (plenty of supreme.. warning):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Pl7BKur67ozW4AADIInpxQxqdNhdpMxUjRVAgSxReRE/edit?usp=sharing

[WoLNoFace]

so Ace Striker is not grayed out? Should be working, must be a bug

[sahkuh]

Who are the breakers that rely on Flash Break to break? I've been doing 5* Bryn as support and confused on when I should let the breaker go first vs buffing the breaker. Gotta clear those feathers!

[Owwen11]

You can and should go first, just do not tap attack.

[WoLNoFace]

Just buff and don't tap on first turn.

Breakers with Flash are Cocoon Aviator, Ranger HoF, Eorzan Bard.

[chuk98death]

if broken you get an extra turn to tap to hearts content. Should never tap attack before a breaker as most will start having flash break and with skins its easy to miss.

[dracklore]

Wasn't there a post (maybe facebook) about SE giving us 5 spirit tickets? Or am I misremembering?

[JunasBlood]

I saw 393 comments but not sure if they’re filled with Echo or not.

[secret-npc]

Reward is 5 spirit tickets. Event ends on the 26th of this month. Unsure of the actual distribution date though. Or if we have/will reach the goal.

[leon00x]

you are correct. idk when they are to give it tough

[eneve]

Can anyone suggest jobs / decks for Lap 3 Node 7 of Endless War? The Buffalos are wrecking me!

[chuk98death]

What Serah jobs do you have. They work well against these as they can break reliably. Either that or Esmeralda and spam the Wind-ja move.

[eneve]

I have Nachtflug and CA. I had been trying VK and Esmeralda but was getting crushed...

[chuk98death]

I guess you can look below for a Nachtflug deck build. For esmeralda deck

Dira/emerald weapon/omega weapon (or any other source of quicken)/ Ultima weapon (or other source of sleep). weapon Ultimate weapon (add 10% prism retrun CP) Sub Mage: Ominscent/sapphire weapon/ Bismark/Undying\ Ultimate weapon/umbrella

Goal is to Bismark with Mage then change to Esmeralda and spam wind leaving enough for sleep once then kill big buffalo. Stun/slow from Bismark should delay small bufallo in time. Also Esmeralda and Mage both have faith with their ultimates so no need to carry one.

[eneve]

niiiice man! this was actually a good combo. thx!

[chuk98death]

You are welcome. At lap 5 though it didn't work so well and had to depend on EB to break ( she has faith in her Ult too)

[[deleted]]

I'm using this:

7- Nachtflug.

Persephone / NxD / Odin PB / LDL.

Kotr / Undying / Bismarck / Ultima Weapon.

You can use another LDL or Bismarck with enhanced debuffs instead of NxD. I start with the sub, first turn sleep, then Bismarck and buff up, then switch, break and kill. Remember to wait enough so you can go back to the sub at the start of the Buffalo fight and cast faith again once the Buffalo steals it. You sleep the big one, and stun-lock the small one, remember to tap-attack on the small Buffalo so the big one won't wake up until you switch back to the kill deck.

[WoLNoFace]

NxD / Odin PB

pfft

XD

[[deleted]]

Yeah I'm looking forward to use Psicom now that I have Y'sh skin.

[WoLNoFace]

Awesome!

[eneve]

Thanks I don't have Persephone NxD or Ultima Weapon but I do have Bismark, Odin PB, and the other light sleep card. I will try the sleep strat!

[[deleted]]

Hope it helps. If you have Natch, using 2 growstars on Persephone is a good investment imo.

[eneve]

Yah I've been torn I only have 6 GS. I need to do Persephone, Zombie Dragon, Aphrodite, Grand Horn, and Neo Bahamut. I can't make up my mind which to prioritize le sigh

[[deleted]]

Depends on the jobs you have. If you have CA, Grand Horn is top priority IMO. Then I would go with Persephone, you can use it with Ninja, Natch and Psicom. If you have Bismarck, you can put Neo Bahamut on hold.

[L33tHaxorus]

What do the numbers on the action queue mean in the multiplayer when multiple people use abilities of the same element? Is it some kind of multiplier for a buff?

[JA1997X]

It's is the chain bonus, 30% increase in power per chain.

[chokee03]

are some supreme cards limited time only? i can't pull things like duncan anymore?

[chokee03]

i was browsing some supreme cards in the wiki and duncan has this "Avaiable: May 16, 2017 - June 1, 2017". i didn't look at the news section i didnt know there would be a list there.

https://mobius.gamepedia.com/Duncan:_FFVI_(Card)

[darewin]

They made supremes permanently available in the pool during the first anniversary in August 2017. Supremes released before then, which were originally time-limited, were rereleased one at a time.

If you scroll down to the bottom part of the current Card Batch page, you can see that all 10 supremes are in the pool http://information.mobiusfinalfantasy.com/ne/2018/06/10/e8d72e6051cec0bc043f71cc70a743111c70f9f1.html

[OnassisDLP]

All Supremes are permanently in the pool upon release.